Why Does the Vancouver Police Dept Have A Hate Crimes Unit?

dumpthemonarchy

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The Vancouver Police Dept has a Hate Crime Unit. I dislike this because race doesn't exist to the politically correct. Race may not exist, but people of diversity, that is, meaning non-whites, need extra protection. The law is colour blind, but not with hate laws. This violates principles of equality.

So if you commit a violent crime against someone or kill someone, you get charged with assault or murder, then you get a hate charge tossed on top. Kind of like a parking ticket I guess. What's worse than murder or an assault? Comic. Weirds me out. But it does create more needless bureacracy and time wasting.

Mischief to religious property sounds like vandalism to me. Vandalism is already a crime. Are the police unsure what vandalism is? Perhaps it is payback to all the religious immigrants that came from Asia and Africa in the past two decades. Could be why the police are so slow and clueless in regard to getting people charged in the Vancouver Canuck riot.

This hate crimes unit is nauseating because the police are not supposed to worrty about motivation in a crime because motivation is irrelevant. Crime is violence, crime is not the thoughts we carry in our heads.

If someone swings a club at me, I don't want the police dithering and trying to figure out why the hood is after me, I just want the cop to enforce the law and do his job. And I don't want the police to wonder when charging the punk, "Was this a hate crime too?"

I think the donut eating cops need to walk the beat more.


Hate Crimes Unit | Vancouver Police Department



Diversity & Aboriginal Policing Section (DAPS) : Hate Crimes Unit | Diversity Advisory Committee (DAC) | Citizens Police Academy | Diversity & Aboriginal Policing Section FAQs
Hate Crimes Unit

The Hate Crimes Unit (HCU) is part of the Diversity and Aboriginal Policing Section and was established to provide support to both the Patrol Division and Investigative Sections throughout the city.

The members of the Unit develop and deliver training for law enforcement personnel, liaise with community groups, and participate in education and prevention programs. The HCU monitors bias-, prejudice-, or hate-motivated offences and provides expertise relevant to the bias, prejudice, or hate component of the evidence and related legal provisions.

The Unit also provides knowledge of specific symbols, markings, or language and how this information may be substantiated in court. This is particularly important when utilizing Section 718.2 of the Criminal Code, which allows for increased sentences to be considered where there is evidence that a bias-, prejudice-, or hate-motivated offence has been committed.
What is Hate Crime?

Section 718.2 of the Criminal Code of Canada defines a hate / bias crime as a criminal offence committed against a person or property that is motivated by the suspect's hate, bias or prejudice against an identifiable group based on the victim's race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or any other similar factor.
What is Hate Propaganda?

According to the Criminal Code of Canada, there are two types of hate propaganda.
Section 318 Advocating Genocide

This section describes the offence of advocating or promoting genocide. Genocide is the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, any identifiable group, by:
  • killing members of the group
  • deliberately inflicting conditions on the group calculated to bring out the destruction of that group
An identifiable group is defined as any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation. (Sexual orientation was added to this list in 2004.)
Section 319 Public Incitement of Hatred

This offence is committed in two ways:
  • when a person communicates statements in any public place and incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace
  • when a person communicates statements, other than in private conversation, that wilfully promote hatred against any identifiable group
Mischief to Religious Property

Section 430 (4.1) of the Criminal Code is used to specifically address crimes against places of worship. The Section is worded as such:
Everyone who commits mischief in relation to property that is a building, structure or part thereof that is primarily used for religious worship, including a church, mosque, synagogue or temple, or an object associated with religious worship located in or on the grounds of such a building or structure, or a cemetery, if the commission of the mischief is motivated by bias, prejudice, or hate based on religion, race, colour or national or ethnic origin is guilty of...
 

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I think it is quite obvious what a 'hate' crime is, as opposed to a 'other' crimes, and yes, I am
glad the vancouver police recognize that problem.

With such diversity in this country, we must 'pounce' on those who refuse to blend in and accept others,
as this is what canada represents, and we must cherish that aspect of our population.

The narrow minded view of others is found all over the world, and seems especially prevelent in countries
with narrow minded religions, or those who do not accept 'skin' of a different color.

We can show others how to live 'together', and cudos to the vancouver police for having a hate crimes unit,
and I hope they enforce hate crimes efficiently, as they are definitely 'out' there.

First and foremost, our 'first nations community', the real canadians.
 

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race doesn't exist to the politically correct.

Race exists ESPECIALLY to the politically correct!

Race may not exist, but people of diversity, that is, meaning non-whites, need extra protection.

No they don't. They need EQUAL protection.

The law is colour blind, but not with hate laws. This violates principles of equality.

That's right, and this contradicts your first two quotes.

Could be why the police are so slow and clueless in regard to getting people charged in the Vancouver Canuck riot.

Charges are slow to come because a photograph or video of someone allegedly committing a crime isn't enough for a conviction. You need EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY to go along with the video evidence. A person has to say "I saw this person do this, and I filmed it". That's why you probably won't see the "hundreds" charged like they promised.

This hate crimes unit is nauseating because the police are not supposed to worrty about motivation in a crime because motivation is irrelevant. Crime is violence, crime is not the thoughts we carry in our heads.

Motive IS relevant because that's part of the evidence against the accused!

I think the donut eating cops need to walk the beat more.

I think the cops should beat more.
 

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The only problem I have with it is how can one be sure that the hatred is directed toward the race, sexual orientation, skin colour etc.? It's quite possible the hatred is directed at behaviour, such as a propensity of chopping up people with machetes for one example.
 

JLM

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You need EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY to go along with the video evidence. A person has to say "I saw this person do this said:
What happened to "A picture is worth a thousand words"? :smile:

Extra MEANS equal to the politically correct. It has for sometime now.

For whatever the judgment of the politically correct is worth! :lol:
 

SLM

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Seemed logical to me. Police hate crime. Unless of course they are the ones committing the crime.
Maybe the reason for it's existence is just to have the sign above the door to remind then which side their on? Like a mini little refresher course everytime they go to work.
 

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Maybe the reason for it's existence is just to have the sign above the door to remind then which side their on? Like a mini little refresher course everytime they go to work.
I think the police are well aware of whose side they are on, and it ain't the little guy's. That is why the little guy gets token service and recognition while the corporations get their protection.
 

SLM

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I think the police are well aware of whose side they are on, and it ain't the little guy's. That is why the little guy gets token service and recognition while the corporations get their protection.

Is anyone ever on the little guy's side?

Funny thing is there are way more little guy's in the world. Maybe if we all just stopped arguing about stupid things like the origin of one's birth, the colour of skin, the choice of worship, or with whom one takes as a partner in life, we might just get somewhere.
 

JLM

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Is anyone ever on the little guy's side?

Funny thing is there are way more little guy's in the world. Maybe if we all just stopped arguing about stupid things like the origin of one's birth, the colour of skin, the choice of worship, or with whom one takes as a partner in life, we might just get somewhere.

But as long as we can spend our time nattering about that stuff, maybe we don't really have any real problems! :smile:
 

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Race exists ESPECIALLY to the politically correct!



No they don't. They need EQUAL protection.



That's right, and this contradicts your first two quotes.



Charges are slow to come because a photograph or video of someone allegedly committing a crime isn't enough for a conviction. You need EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY to go along with the video evidence. A person has to say "I saw this person do this, and I filmed it". That's why you probably won't see the "hundreds" charged like they promised.



Motive IS relevant because that's part of the evidence against the accused!



I think the cops should beat more.


You break up the quotes too much.

Of course race exists to the politcally correct, they are the most obsessed by it. They feel it very keenly but wish it weren't so. They are extremely conflicted, while they want to treat everyone the same, they want to treat some better, non-whites often. The key point is, race exists, it is mentioned in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, yet you are not supposed to think about it. The PC crowd will do it for you. They will bring in Asians and Africans and remake the country you will hire them, live with them, work with them, and marry them, the decision has been made, the discussion is over, just do it.

To oppose this idea makes you a hater, because the PC crowd loves humanity and if you do not love the world in the way they do, you are a hater. This rigid vewipoint doesn't leave much room for discussion.

Does motive convict people if you do not commit the physical act? Motive aids in the investigation to find people who likely committed the illegal deed since most people who attack or kill us are our friends, relatives or people we hang around with. Stranger crime is quite rare in Canada I have read. Motive is not direct evidence, it is circumstantial evidence and inferior to direct evidence.

Attack on Muslim author may be hate crime | Toronto & GTA | News | Toronto Sun

Attack on Muslim author may be hate crime


By Ian Robertson ,Toronto Sun First posted: Thursday, August 25, 2011 08:15 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, August 26, 2011 08:24 AM EDT
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A Muslim on Muslim attack. Why not just call it assault? One less charge, one less expensive bureaucracy action.
 

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Of course race exists to the politcally correct, they are the most obsessed by it. They feel it very keenly but wish it weren't so. They are extremely conflicted, while they want to treat everyone the same, they want to treat some better, non-whites often. The key point is, race exists, it is mentioned in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, yet you are not supposed to think about it. The PC crowd will do it for you. They will bring in Asians and Africans and remake the country you will hire them, live with them, work with them, and marry them, the decision has been made, the discussion is over, just do it.

'you will...marry them'...man, you sound like YJ.

I can only assume that you believe there is some PC dudette out there who is going to force you to marry an Asian or African.

You must be running scared all the time!
 

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'you will...marry them'...man, you sound like YJ.

I can only assume that you believe there is some PC dudette out there who is going to force you to marry an Asian or African.

You must be running scared all the time!

1. Who's YJ?

2. The dudette you speak would assail any of us for wanting to rid of human rights commissions that does so much good work for minorities. Alas, it's not a person, its a way of thinking, or perhaps non-thinking. Personally I'd marry an Asian chick in a minute, I had an Asian girlfriend in Asia and she was pretty darn good. I miss her, but not her country. The political end of things is that the idea of Hongcouver is not good for the city or country.
 

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Too bad the rioters didn't burn a few churches and mosques. They would be easily in jail now I bet as the Hate Crimes Unit would have sprung into action. Of course, the police have no general anti-riot unit, that would mean preparation, and in the big city of Vancouver, riots occur so rarely, we don't need it. And when they do happen, whatever.