Whose death deserves respect?

YukonJack

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gerryh said:

"and talk about ugly...... this woman died WAY too late."

This quote represents exactly what is wrong with the world today.

Here is a lady who courageously battled cancer, and she is reviled by the shallow, empty-headed punk, two minutes after she lost her valiant battle.

Probably the same kind of empty-headed, shallow punk who would have voted for Obama. Style over substance. Looks over character. Live high and screw the kids and grandkids.
 

TenPenny

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gerryh said:

"and talk about ugly...... this woman died WAY too late."

This quote represents exactly what is wrong with the world today.

Here is a lady who courageously battled cancer, and she is reviled by the shallow, empty-headed punk, two minutes after she lost her valiant battle.

Probably the same kind of empty-headed, shallow punk who would have voted for Obama. Style over substance. Looks over character. Live high and screw the kids and grandkids.

That's funny, now we've got Obama in here...maybe we can bring in abortion, and the national anthem.
 

karrie

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Have you read through his later comments? Did he mean what he said about Farrah or was he holding up a mirror and making a point about the comments and disrespect in the Jackson thread?

While I don't excuse it (it's so easy to start a new thread instead), I saw the point he was trying to make.
 

Unforgiven

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How childish!

He was a public figure and the public can have it's say even if it's jokes.
If it's your mother or father or a family member or perhaps a very close friend who's passing you share here with others, then the thread, out of respect to you and your value here as a member should be clear of any jokes regarding the person.

A public figure is fair game. If that public person meant so much to you that reading jokes about their death on the internet offends you grievously, then you sure the hell shouldn't be on the Internet.

As for Gerry, I think he's a good guy but he doesn't seem to handle boundaries and limitations well. It seems he is all about the shout you down or die trying method of debate though he is sometimes well versed in some of the topics he gets excited over. He just doesn't understand when it's time to settle down and let things go so that he can return to them after calming down.

I hope he finds his level soon. He's not a bad guy.

Something that does show up in this though is a faux outrage.
 

YukonJack

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"That's funny, now we've got Obama in here..."

TenPenney, almost EVERY thread goes off topic sooner or later.

It was not my intention to bring Obama into this, it was merely to illustrate the sad moral swamp our society has sunk in recent years.

So, thinking of Obama and his acolytes came naturally.
 

TenPenny

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"That's funny, now we've got Obama in here..."

TenPenney, almost EVERY thread goes off topic sooner or later.

It was not my intention to bring Obama into this, it was merely to illustrate the sad moral swamp our society has sunk in recent years.

So, thinking of Obama and his acolytes came naturally.

It was not my intention to do something that I deliberately did, but come to think of it, yes it was.

Funny as hell, these threads.
 

YukonJack

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"Well naturally, given that most of us are Canadian. He is our president now, right? I'm pretty sure I voted for him. :lol: "

Neither were Farrah Fawcett or Michael Jackdon Canadian. Why are you making posts about their passing?

Be honest, now: if you had had a chance wouldn't you have voted for Obama?
 

karrie

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"Well naturally, given that most of us are Canadian. He is our president now, right? I'm pretty sure I voted for him. :lol: "

Neither were Farrah Fawcett or Michael Jackdon Canadian. Why are you making posts about their passing?

Be honest, now: if you had had a chance wouldn't you have voted for Obama?

I posted a thread about a bit of odd forum behaviour, not about the celebs themselves. I wouldn't have posted a thread about either MJ's or Farrah's passing. I don't generally give two hoots about celebs. And I wouldn't have a chance to vote for an American president, so why bother choosing one? Or waste time defining my fellow Canadians by which Americans they hypothetically like?
 

Unforgiven

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Shhhh.... don't cal the cops caustic. In Canada that could mean a tazing.

They can't use those anymore so now you get a good shot with the electric bbq lighter that is out of fuel. Hurts on the bare bum!:lol:
 

Francis2004

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YukonJack

Neither were Farrah Fawcett or Michael Jackdon Canadian. Why are you making posts about their passing? Both were International celebrities..

Be honest, now: if you had had a chance wouldn't you have voted for Obama? When did we start voting for Presidents in Canada ? :lol: That said, in the last election I voted independent so why would I vote for any different ?:roll:
 

YukonJack

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"I posted a thread about a bit of odd forum behaviour, not about the celebs themselves. I wouldn't have posted a thread about either MJ's or Farrah's passing. I don't generally give two hoots about celebs. And I wouldn't have a chance to vote for an American president, so why bother choosing one? Or waste time defining my fellow Canadians by which Americans they hypothetically like? "

Congratulations, you passed the SirJosephPorter School of spin with flying colours!
 

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wow. It never fails to amaze me how common decency becomes the first casualty of forum interaction.

Death is rarely about the deceased. They're gone, what the hell do they care who says what about them? In the end, their lives will be defined by how they lived them anyway.

No, the aftermath that accompanies death isn't about the dead. They're done. It's about the living.... the ones left behind who are in the midst of grief. Anyone who's had to learn how to take the next step of their lives with a gaping hole where a loved one used to be will immediately recall how surreal and raw that time is. Comments like I've read here serve no positive purpose but to pour salt on fresh wounds.

Think the family and friends of these people won't stumble upon the comments I've read here? I wouldn't want to take that chance, and I'm shocked anyone would.

Grief is the same for all of us - it's possibly one of the most painful experiences any of us will ever go through. And even the most insensitive person I know wouldn't make a point of saying any of the horrid things that I've read here in the presence of fresh grief in real life. So why is it suddenly ok behind a cloak of anonymity? Is that the only thin line that separates us from being complete assholes??

There are people in this world I don't like. Yet I can't fathom going to a place where people are gathered to remember them for the sole purpose of dissing them. Never mind how disrespectful it is to the dead - it's disrespectful to their living loved ones. More than that, it's just damn cruel.

Some people need to give their heads a shake before they hit submit. You don't have to utter out loud or in print every nasty thought that crawls across your mind.

As for gerry - I know his style is to play devil's advocate, and I've yet to see this tactic play out the way he intends, but I respect his motives on this issue - like it or not you guys, he's completely right. A double standard is a double standard no matter how you try and justify it.