Who will you be in God's Kingdom of Heaven?

eanassir

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Perhaps, but it's still fact. No-one has ever proven the existence of gods. All humans can do is claim they exist.

Hearsay and gibberish.


Have you studied this Quran aya, or only you see it is the Quran and you rushed to say: gibberish?

(Those who considered the Quran as 'spiky thorns.')

The above between brackets is the explanation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan, of the Quran 15: 91
الَّذِينَ جَعَلُوا الْقُرْآنَ عِضِينَ



 

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Have you studied this Quran aya, or only you see it is the Quran and you rushed to say: gibberish?
You don't post it in English. You post a translation in English. That is the part that I call hearsay. The part that is gibberish to me is stuff like this; الَّذِينَ جَعَلُوا الْقُرْآنَ عِضِينَ
 

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And this "divine" that you said about: will not He send His envoys to creatures; or did He create them then forgot about them ?

("Did you think that We created you aimlessly, and that you would not return to Us!?")

The above between brackets is the explanation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan, of the Quran 23: 115

أَفَحَسِبْتُمْ أَنَّمَا خَلَقْنَاكُمْ عَبَثًا وَأَنَّكُمْ إِلَيْنَا لَا تُرْجَعُونَ

She sent Her envoys, yes. Life comes from the feminine. Ask your mother.
 

eanassir

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You don't post it in English. You post a translation in English. That is the part that I call hearsay. The part that is gibberish to me is stuff like this; الَّذِينَ جَعَلُوا الْقُرْآنَ عِضِينَ


So you don't know its meaning, and say: gibberish!?

This aya means: the disbelievers and idolaters considered the Quran like the spiky thorn, and the Quran was to them like the spiky thorn: i.e. they contracted from it extremely.

In other words, God misguided them to the extent that the Quran to them is like the spiky thorn;

and they disgust from the belief in God alone; they in fact are the disbelievers in the next afterlife that disgust when God alone is mentioned: that He alone deseves to be worshipped exclusively.

(When God, Alone is mentioned [that He alone deserves to be worshipped], the hearts of those who believe not in the afterlife are filled with disgust;

but when those apart from Him are mentioned [with praise], behold, they rejoice.)

The above between brackets is the explanation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan, of the Quran 39: 45
وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ اللَّهُ وَحْدَهُ اشْمَأَزَّتْ قُلُوبُ الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْآخِرَةِ وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ الَّذِينَ مِن دُونِهِ إِذَا هُمْ يَسْتَبْشِرُونَ
 
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eanassir

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She sent Her envoys, yes. Life comes from the feminine. Ask your mother.

The mother is not god; all mothers are she-maids of God the Creator the All-Mighty.
God created the male and female;
what is all this denial of the alphabet of knowledge?
Or will you insist on your atheism and associating with God?
 

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The mother is not god; all mothers are she-maids of God the Creator the All-Mighty.
God created the male and female;
what is all this denial of the alphabet of knowledge?
Or will you insist on your atheism and associating with God?
Men say god is male. The Torah, the Bible and the Quran were all written by men. It suits their egos to think god is male. But, life comes from the female. God the Creator is actually a Goddess but insecure little men can't handle that. They had to start their own religions to make them feel important - kind of religious Viagra, compensation for their feelings of inadequacy.
 

eanassir

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Men say god is male. The Torah, the Bible and the Quran were all written by men. It suits their egos to think god is male. But, life comes from the female. God the Creator is actually a Goddess but insecure little men can't handle that. They had to start their own religions to make them feel important - kind of religious Viagra, compensation for their feelings of inadequacy.


This is not correct. I tell you how it is wrong:

God is not female, the angels also are not females.
God created the male and the female.
God is Unique and is Complete and not defective.

While the male is defective: he needs the female; and the female is defective: she needs the male; i.e. the female is the complement of the male, and the male is the complement of the female.

The male cannot stand alone, neither can the female.

God created them male and female to demonstrate their defectiveness and His superiority to such defectiveness.

Therefore, the male is superior to the female (females, don't resent :smile:)
The male is one grade superior to the female, and God is Superior to male and female; because He created the male and the female.

(1) God - be exalted - said in the Quran 36: 36
سُبْحَانَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ الْأَزْوَاجَ كُلَّهَا مِمَّا تُنبِتُ الْأَرْضُ وَمِنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ وَمِمَّا لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
The explanation:
(Glory be to Him Who created all the pairs; of [the plant] which the earth produces, and of themselves, and of what they know not!)

(2) God - be glorified – said also in the Quran 51: 49
وَمِن كُلِّ شَيْءٍ خَلَقْنَا زَوْجَيْنِ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَذَكَّرُونَ
The explanation:
(And of everything have We created two spouses; that you may reflect.)

The pairedness (or coupling) of stars
 

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Yes, I have said it before, it takes both male and female to produce life. God, then. must be a hermaphrodite. Is that better. And female is not subservient or lesser than the male. That is just bigoted nonsense. If it weren't for women baring and raising children, there would be no men. Like I said, god as male is just an over compensation for male feelings of inadequacy. Mohammad was a male chauvenist pig, just like the founders of the Jewish and Christian religions.
 

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So you don't know its meaning, and say: gibberish!?
Let me supply you with the definition of gibberish because you don't seem to know what it means:

gib·ber·ish (j
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sh)n.1. Unintelligible or nonsensical talk or writing.
2. a. Highly technical or esoteric language.
b. Unnecessarily pretentious or vague language.
gibberish - definition of gibberish by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

This aya means: the disbelievers and idolaters considered the Quran like the spiky thorn, and the Quran was to them like the spiky thorn: i.e. they contracted from it extremely.

In other words, God misguided them to the extent that the Quran to them is like the spiky thorn;

and they disgust from the belief in God alone; they in fact are the disbelievers in the next afterlife that disgust when God alone is mentioned: that He alone deseves to be worshipped exclusively.

(When God, Alone is mentioned [that He alone deserves to be worshipped], the hearts of those who believe not in the afterlife are filled with disgust;

but when those apart from Him are mentioned [with praise], behold, they rejoice.)

The above between brackets is the explanation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan, of the Quran 39: 45
وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ اللَّهُ وَحْدَهُ اشْمَأَزَّتْ قُلُوبُ الَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْآخِرَةِ وَإِذَا ذُكِرَ الَّذِينَ مِن دُونِهِ إِذَا هُمْ يَسْتَبْشِرُونَ
Right. So you post more gibberish and suggest that this Mohammed-Ali Hassan has an accurate interpretation?

Mohammed Ali Hassan Al-Moayad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Muhammad Ali Hasan - Official Website

Do you have any other experts at translations of the Quran? (And please don't suggest Al Hilly).
 

AnnaG

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Men say god is male. The Torah, the Bible and the Quran were all written by men. It suits their egos to think god is male. But, life comes from the female. God the Creator is actually a Goddess but insecure little men can't handle that. They had to start their own religions to make them feel important - kind of religious Viagra, compensation for their feelings of inadequacy.
lol Well, it's as good a hypothesis as any. ;)
 

AnnaG

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God is Unique and is Complete and not defective.
This god must be defective. Otherwise it could plan things a wee bit better. For instance, if it really wanted humans to take care of the planet, we wouldn't pollute it. And who in their right mind would design an eyeball like ours? Or shoulders that injure so easily, teeth that rot so easily, brains that develop problems so easily, etc.? Humans are walking patchworks of glitches.
 

eanassir

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Let me supply you with the definition of gibberish because you don't seem to know what it means:

gibberish - definition of gibberish by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

So the gibberish is you and your myths.


Right. So you post more gibberish and suggest that this Mohammed-Ali Hassan has an accurate interpretation?

Mohammed Ali Hassan Al-Moayad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Muhammad Ali Hasan - Official Website

My teacher is Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly; he died at 1991; I don't know other people called with the same name: there are thousands and millions of Mohammeds.

Do you have any other experts at translations of the Quran? (And please don't suggest Al Hilly).

Not everyone can interpret the ambiguous ayat of the Quran unless with God's inspiration; therefore your pleading is refused;

and because you are misguided to the meanings of the Quran, no one can guide you or others, unless by God Himself the guidance is possible.


(How is it with you [Muslims] that you have become two parties [with two opinions] concerning the hypocrites,

While [in fact] God [Himself] has immersed them [in their sins] because of [the transgression and evil] that they earned ?

Do you desire [then] to guide him whom God has misguided?

Whom God misguides, you [men] will not find for him any way [to be saved or guided aright.])


The above between brackets is the explanation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, of the Quran 4: 88

فَمَا لَكُمْ فِي الْمُنَافِقِينَ فِئَتَيْنِ وَاللّهُ أَرْكَسَهُم بِمَا كَسَبُواْ أَتُرِيدُونَ أَن تَهْدُواْ مَنْ أَضَلَّ اللّهُ وَمَن يُضْلِلِ اللّهُ فَلَن تَجِدَ لَهُ سَبِيلاً


 

AnnaG

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So the gibberish is you and your myths.
Why? Don't you understand English? roflmao
"Whatta maroon", B Bunny




My teacher is Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly; he died at 1991; I don't know other people called with the same name: there are thousands and millions of Mohammeds.
So which Mohammed did the correct interpretation of the Quran and which did false interpretations?



Not everyone can interpret the ambiguous ayat of the Quran unless with God's inspiration; therefore your pleading is refused;
... because you can't supply a correct interpretation.

and because you are misguided to the meanings of the Quran, no one can guide you or others, unless by God Himself the guidance is possible.
Well, then what is the point of interpreting then?


(How is it with you [Muslims] that you have become two parties [with two opinions] concerning the hypocrites,
While [in fact] God [Himself] has immersed them [in their sins] because of [the transgression and evil] that they earned ?

Do you desire [then] to guide him whom God has misguided?

Whom God misguides, you [men] will not find for him any way [to be saved or guided aright.])


The above between brackets is the explanation, by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly, of the Quran 4: 88

فَمَا لَكُمْ فِي الْمُنَافِقِينَ فِئَتَيْنِ وَاللّهُ أَرْكَسَهُم بِمَا كَسَبُواْ أَتُرِيدُونَ أَن تَهْدُواْ مَنْ أَضَلَّ اللّهُ وَمَن يُضْلِلِ اللّهُ فَلَن تَجِدَ لَهُ سَبِيلاً


More hearsay and gibberish.
 

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This god must be defective. Otherwise it could plan things a wee bit better. For instance, if it really wanted humans to take care of the planet, we wouldn't pollute it. And who in their right mind would design an eyeball like ours? Or shoulders that injure so easily, teeth that rot so easily, brains that develop problems so easily, etc.? Humans are walking patchworks of glitches.

You hate humans don't you? You think just by being here we pollute the planet.
 

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This god must be defective. Otherwise it could plan things a wee bit better. For instance, if it really wanted humans to take care of the planet, we wouldn't pollute it. And who in their right mind would design an eyeball like ours? Or shoulders that injure so easily, teeth that rot so easily, brains that develop problems so easily, etc.? Humans are walking patchworks of glitches.

I think our body parts are pretty well designed to perfection at least for what they were being used for when man was first put on the planet. The main reason they deteriorate now is because they are not being cared for properly or they are not being used properly (teeth weren't meant to pull caps off beer bottles, backs weren't meant for lifting)
 

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I think our body parts are pretty well designed to perfection at least for what they were being used for when man was first put on the planet. The main reason they deteriorate now is because they are not being cared for properly or they are not being used properly (teeth weren't meant to pull caps off beer bottles, backs weren't meant for lifting)
To a point. Shoulders just started out being weird, as did our eyeballs, though.

Here let me illustrate what I mean: our retinas are backwards. When we see things, our retinas turn them upside down and reversed laterally, so our brains have to spend energy rectifying the view in order to make sense. Besides that, what we see is filtered through a mass of blood vessels and other obstructions.
On the other hand; the green iguana has a similar use for its eyes as we do yet the structures of its eye is much better so it can see much better than humans.
 
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Perhaps, but it's still fact. No-one has ever proven the existence of gods. All humans can do is claim they exist.

Hearsay and gibberish.



Perhaps, AnnaG is a fact. But I know she exists because I talk to her, but I can never prove her because she is not in front of me.

Can anyone prove AnnaG exist to me, because I have the same problem concerning God.