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Corduroy

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No.

Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were legitimate military targets by the rule of the day.

Interesting stats though:

290 Canadians died during the battle, many shot or bayoneted after they surrendered. 267 died after the battle, murdered, worked to death, or starved to death. Out of 1,974 Canadian soldiers landed in Hong Kong, 557 died.

In Dec. 1941 the Japanese held 350,000 Chinese prisoners. After more than three additional years of war and prisoner-taking.....with none released, at the end of the war the Japanese held 56 Chinese prisoners.

At Nanking, in China the Japanese murdered an estimated 300,000 Chinese civilians in a few weeks......after the surrender of the city.
Rape was extensive, as many as 80,000........

Add these crimes to the fact of Japan's refusal to surrender and the suicidal determination of her soldiers.......and that the death toll of the otherwise-necessary invasion of the nation was estimated to be 1 million allied troops (plus untold millions of Japanese)...

When the facts are taken together.....anyone that argues the bombings were not a necessity is, IMHO, a revisionist idiot.

I've always wanted to know, if the Japanese were suicidal and willing to fight to the last man, woman and child, why didn't they? Does your book on Hong Kong and POWs explain that?
 

Colpy

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I've always wanted to know, if the Japanese were suicidal and willing to fight to the last man, woman and child, why didn't they? Does your book on Hong Kong and POWs explain that?

The Emperor, considered a god, ordered them to surrender.

Of course, some surrendered in combat as well, although very, very few.

Some soldiers did not get the word, and continued to fight on in remote areas.......

Japanese Holdouts: Registry

Almost beyond belief.
 

Corduroy

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The Emperor, considered a god, ordered them to surrender.

Hirohito's chief concern was to save his own ass. The Japanese offered to surrender before the atomic bombings with the condition that the emperor be allowed to stay on. The Allies refused. After the bombings, the Japanese again offered the same surrender, but the Allies again refused. Both times, these offers of surrender were initiated by Hirohito. The war kept going. When unconditional surrender was finally accepted, there was an unsuccessful attempted coup. After the war, with US approval Hirohito escaped the war crimes trial that should have been coming to him and continued to reign for decades. He got what he wanted from the beginning.

It's hard to square all this with the idea that the emperor's word was obeyed without question and that it was his surrender that ended the war. His previous attempts failed. His orders to surrender caused some in the military to commit treason.

This isn't the thread to talk about this, but if you want to, you better bring your game, boyo. ;)
 

Unforgiven

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So anyway,

Ghost Rider was excellent! What a moving and inspiring tale Peart rambles through the various stages of grief and climate as he travels his own road of healing searching for a place for his little baby soul and him to reunite his fractured personalities and move on.

Now on to Traveling Music by the same author. Interesting insights into Peart's youth, his take on music and tons of great music as he travels (man is a driving machine) through the US feeding his wanderlust through his Z8 and a changer full of CDs. Again a great tale of trekking through the byways of the US visiting off beat places, with reference to good and bad places to stay and eat. We hear more more one sided conversations with the intrepid Brutus now a captive of Canada, refused entry into the US due to felony conviction.

An interesting read, great pace with just enough detail to really flush out the pictures he's working at putting into your mind.

Also I must mention that this is a man who loves to read. He has a voracious appetite for the written word and knows what it is to read a well bound book on good paper with proper type setting. It's a pleasure to read his books not only because of the content, but also that the book itself is made the way a book should be made. I can imagine these copies will last a while, passed around my small circle of fellow readers.

Next up Road Show also by Peart.

I can't wait!
 

JakeElwood

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'Men from Boys' edited by JOHN HARVEY

Currently reading: 'Men from Boys' edited by JOHN HARVEY
Includes sixteen short stories plus a novella by Andrew COBURN.

 

EagleSmack

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Hirohito's chief concern was to save his own ass.

Not quite so. The Japanese Diet wanted to save Hirohito's ass.

The Japanese offered to surrender before the atomic bombings with the condition that the emperor be allowed to stay on.

The Japanese wanted to negotiate a truce, not surrender.

The Allies refused.

As they should have.

After the bombings, the Japanese again offered the same surrender, but the Allies again refused. Both times, these offers of surrender were initiated by Hirohito.

After the first bomb the Japanese refused to surrender. Hirohito was convinced by some that the Americans only had one bomb. Hirohito only offered to agree to the Allied terms after the second bomb.

The war kept going. When unconditional surrender was finally accepted, there was an unsuccessful attempted coup. After the war, with US approval Hirohito escaped the war crimes trial that should have been coming to him and continued to reign for decades. He got what he wanted from the beginning.

Hirohito said to his cabinet that his life was not worth that of his nations and told his people to accept the Unconditional Surrender. To "bear the unbearable".

The allies decided after the Unconditional Surrender to not charge Hirohito.

It's hard to square all this with the idea that the emperor's word was obeyed without question and that it was his surrender that ended the war. His previous attempts failed. His orders to surrender caused some in the military to commit treason.

Yes indeed. There was a mutiny against some members of the government because they thought the Emperor was being mislead. The mutiners thought they could convince the Emperor that they could win. Some of the "rebels" committed suicide after the Emperor told them they had disobeyed his wishes.

This isn't the thread to talk about this, but if you want to, you better bring your game, boyo. ;)

All day long.
 

Unforgiven

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Even when this guy isn't touring, he's touring. I wonder if he has some sort of autistic malady like Asperger's with a savant aspect? He is very uncomfortable in public situations. Fans make him most uncomfortable, while he is very smart he does seem to have a tendency to internalize that. Obsessive about drums, travel and motorcycling, he was the same way with bicycle riding, month long travels through Africa, riding over 100 miles a day between shows on tour, that sort of thing. Now on top of writing lyrics for the ban, being one of the best drummers in the world, he also has four books published.

 

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I've got a couple of books on the go right now. Mighty Judgment by Philip Slayton - "How the Supreme Court of Canda Runs Your Life' and Shockwave by Stephen Walker - 'Countdown to Hiroshima'.

The former is a bit dry but endlessly interesting as it details how the Court works, how judges are chosen, and how their decisions affect our daily lives.

The latter is a detailed account of the assembly of the two bombs and their subsquent delivery to Tinian Island thence to be dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The account begins twelve hours before the first bomb is dropped and details how the lives of both the people who built the bomb and those who were in Hiroshima at the time were affected by it.
 

Unforgiven

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Just finished Roadshow.

What a great author he has become. The stories flow into each other well and I find it difficult to put down the book. I actually slow down toward then end of the book because I don't want it to end. Ack!

On to Far And Away a prize every time again by Neil Peart.



This one has pictures!

I found out today that Roadshow has, in a way, an illustrated companion. Though it is a different thing altogether.
As I understand it, it was to be another book and was actually pre-sold by his publishers to a small degree, though it was never published. On my quest to get to the bottom of this story, I find that Neil Peart is in the process of publishing it online. NEP News

I think it's an interesting way to publish a book and much like publishing music independently online. Though I am not at all sure about the format. I prefer a comfy chair under natural light for reading or to tell a personal secret, prone under the covers of my bed. Not sure how I would like reading a book online yet. We'll see.
 

wulfie68

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My wife and I have been watching " A Game of Thrones" and its been so long since I read the book the first time, I am re-reading the series. Good stuff if you're into the fantasy/sci-fi/alternative history genres with a bent towards conflict and politics. I just hope that consulting/executive producing the HBO series spurs Mr Martin into finishing the rest of the literary series.