What would YOU want to hear at church?
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Ah, you mean ignore the concept of facts, scientific laws, etc.? I can imagine that. But ditching facts, scientific laws, evidence, etc. not only allows for a belief in YHVH , it allows for belief in Santa Claus, trolls, goblins, leprechauns, faeries, Zeus, Isis, Bridget, Dhumavati, Spock the Vulcan, etc.
lol WHy bother? I don't go past the second to last page. Before I re-entered this thread my last post was 3 or 4 pages back. It's history so I leave it there. If someone replied to my last post 3 or 4 pages back, they better repost or forget me giving them a reply.
It is your interpretation that is false, misguided and a misrepresentation.
I know you won't even read this, but I will say it anyway for the benefit of those who are interested. For over 200 years the Romans persecuted Christians (why is another story) and fed them to the lions. To be found with literature (scriptures) was to be condemned to death. So how do you think the Christians dealt with this problem? They encoded their writings. They used stories the Romans were familiar with, stories of the old gods, and slipped in coded words to spread messages to other Christians. When the bible was assembled in its present format, they used these encoded messages thinking they were the actual teachings. That is why only an initiate could decipher the real message. It is also why I say the writings were never meant to be taken literally. Reading the bible the way you born againers do is completely without merit or truth. Thus I say, you are farting in the wind. You have no understanding of the history or meaning of the writings. That is also why there are so many different interpretations of the bible and over 3500 different Christian sects.
Yeah, I was told that too, many times over a period of about 15 years by many people, one of the later ones even told me, "The Holy Spirit will burn a hole through you." Great, just what I wanted. So I tried, from early adolescence to early manhood, to do that. Nothing happened, nothing was revealed to me except an increasing conviction that this crap can't possibly be true. And I even know the true believer's explanation of that: it's just to deny that I read it with an open mind, so it's my fault. Standard BS argument, if you pray and your prayers are answered, praise the lord, if you pray and your prayers aren't answered, well, the lord works in mysterious ways we're not given to understand, praise him anyway. I might start taking you people seriously when you can produce a single properly documented instance of a person regrowing an amputated limb in response to intercessory prayer. Nobody prays for that do they, because they know it doesn't happen, but they *will* pray for things with more ambiguous outcomes and credit the deity when they get what they asked for. Y'all need to learn how to think clearly.
If god can raise the dead, why can't he regrow a limb? Something smells fishy and it ain't my arm pits.
The command to positively impress your fellows is an old one, only the dead don't impart an impression. The idea of christ has impressed people for ten thousand years, at least. Jesus and Satan are Hebrew inventions for raising sheep. Jesus is a type, not of the flesh, christ was crucified many times, we all have to endure the crossing. Christ was Egyptian Chaldean Greek, christ is an inescapable necessity for the self conscious mind and always has been and always will be, like light. The bible makes little or no sense until you read the preceeding philosophies and the early churches formation. Starting at the bible is picking up the story in the last ten pages of a million page epic. Anyway it's nice to argue.
Well adjusted people can fit into other cultures because they listen they're well mannered happy outgoing helpful industrious etc all of these build communion universally. Popularity is a time honoured survival tool. If you're not popular you ain't going to enjoy an extended life. That's the law of nature and heaven.
Acid would still help you.
You are easily more popular than accurate. Gabbing and sharing are reserved for people with the necessary popularity to attract a reciprocating audience, even if it's your dog.
More EU ASSumption? tsk tsk You are welcome to it, but it's folly.You are easily more popular than accurate. Gabbing and sharing are reserved for people with the necessary popularity to attract a reciprocating audience, even if it's your dog.
They own you don't they. Always hypnotizing you to feed them aren't they. Dogs can tell you know.
Nope. We're just friends. It's a symbiotic relationship.
Nope. They do things like keep deer out of wifey's gardens, put on comedy shows, etc. in exchange for food and pets. Like I said, it's a symbiotic relationship.
I'm sure they tell you lots of stuff.
When did you meet my dog?
You're not the beaver who splashed Dezel's face last fall are ya?
YOU HAVE MASSIVELY CONTRADICTED YOURSELF HERE. According to you, people who revere "Allah" or "Krishna" or Jesus Christ as God are "knowing" the one true God, creator of all. Yet, as soon as the conversation moves to God's judgment and wrath against sin, suddenly you and the other Christians aren't talking about the same God!
God's wrath against sin does not negate his love for us and his grace, because although he's displeased by sin, he's still willing to forgive anything we've ever done. Guess what happens when a person is content with their sin and doesn't want forgiveness through Jesus Christ? God's wrath against their sins remains on them (John 3:36) because we are all responsible for our choices (2 Corinthians 5:10). Don't you realize that the blood of those murdered in the womb cries out to God for justice? He won't ignore it. Read about the first murder, when Cain slew his brother Abel: And the Lord said "What have you done? The voice of your brother's blood is crying out to me from the ground" (Genesis 4:10).
I realize you don't believe in hell. I realize you think everyone is going to heaven regardless of what they believe. I realize you don't believe God is vengeful. But how come you haven't realized that one of the reasons why God said vengeance is reserved for himself (Romans 12:19) is because he doesn't want us murdering abortion providers and wants us to instead follow his commandment to pray for, and demonstrate love towards them? You're quick to latch onto the verse that commands us to "love our enemies" but then you deny God is only one with the sovereignty and authority to judge and punish!
God is not going to let all the sin slide Gerry. Justice is the quality of dealing fairly with others and God is just. Because sin deserves to be punished, God can either legally commute your sentence because Jesus received your punishment (Isaiah 53:4-6, 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 Peter 2 :24) or you can receive your rightly-deserved punishment yourself (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9). That's why God warned us that before each us is a choice between life or death (Deuteronomy 30:15).
No he didn't. PAUL defined the sword as "the word of God", NOT the Holy Spirit. "and take with you the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God" (Ephesians 6:17).
The sword Jesus talked about refers to his righteous judgment which is going to DIVIDE us. What do you do with a sword? You strike, cut, and divide. He's going to separate the those who have been made righteous with him, with those who are not.
:lol: Still catching up, and now I gotta log off. I think I'll focus on just replying to posts that have been addressed to me because this thread is starting to run away on me. I'm giving you a green thumb cuz you make me laugh out loud.
You believe what you will. I'll believe what I will....... and in my not so humble opinion, your newest buddy is a fu cking moron.