a few years ago, there were some very very wealthy people living in mansions on south west marine drive,
in vancouver, as a result of their 'rum running' up and down the west coast, back in those days.
'War on drugs a war on minorities'
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a few years ago, there were some very very wealthy people living in mansions on south west marine drive,
in vancouver, as a result of their 'rum running' up and down the west coast, back in those days.
As long as we're having "a war" on something, in order to justify our politicos drawing their most modest paycheques, well, hell, everything's OK.:sad4:..............right?
MOSCOW – U.S. and [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Russian [COLOR=#366388 !important]special [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]forces[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] have raided drug labs in Afghanistan in an unprecedented collaborative military operation, the U.S. Embassy in Moscow said Friday, destroying what a Russian official said was $250 million worth of heroin and morphine.
Afghan forces also were involved in the raid on four laboratories near the Pakistan border, a U.S. Embassy spokesperson said on customary condition of anonymity.
Russia, US collaborate in Afghan drug raid - Yahoo! News
See, you never know who will invade you and for what reason. Who even knew Russia was that active against drugs.
Afghan forces also were involved in the raid on four laboratories near the Pakistan border, a U.S. Embassy spokesperson said on customary condition of anonymity.
Russia, US collaborate in Afghan drug raid - Yahoo! News
See, you never know who will invade you and for what reason. Who even knew Russia was that active against drugs.
Who knew they were in Afghanistan cooperating with the Americans? My, times have changed.
Not related to minorites (at least I don't believe so), but here are some haunting pics (with captions) of the drug czar in Mexico. Helps to make you realize how a lot of this crap would be prevented if they were legalized.
Drug Wars >> TotallyCoolPix
The 134 tonnes of weed bushels being burned up was a bit of a tear jerker.
Drug Wars >> TotallyCoolPix
The 134 tonnes of weed bushels being burned up was a bit of a tear jerker.
The sad thing is that I don't think this war will stop if the junk is legalized or not. Power these so called drug lords have is pretty addictive unto itself.
Maybe, but if the drugs they're dealing are legalized and regulated, their business can then be taxed and monitored for safety, quality, etc..... then these drug lords also don't have to pay for so much security and protection from the government and other drug lords..... at the same time, police and government won't have to pay so much for security and protection compared to what they're paying now either.... and if the government starts getting involved in the drug trade like it does with tobacco, alcohol (and gambling, though not a drug, it's still an addiction they prey on) You'd also see many of the drug lord's clients dry up as they start sending their money into government run smoke shops, etc.
Though these drug lords could enter the market and sell their products like tobacco companies do today..... basically it would make them into legitimate businesses.
It'd be kind of hard to hold onto that addictive power in an environment like the above...... they'd probably still be filthy rich, but there'd be no justified reasons for the drug lords to continually take hits out on police and politicians like what's happening in Mexico and the police wouldn't have a reason to raid or bust them unless their business wasn't up to code.... which would probably end up with just the owner getting a fine.
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I used to go to school with a girl whose last name was Reifel - didn't now what booze runner meant but after I grew up a bit realized the poor kid was going to be tagged as one of them for years.
In my goofy youth I thought it was rather "romantic" ....
I used to go to school with a girl whose last name was Reifel - didn't now what booze runner meant but after I grew up a bit realized the poor kid was going to be tagged as one of them for years.
In my goofy youth I thought it was rather "romantic" ....
You are reading far more into my original post than was there. I simply made a simple observation that historically the poor have a higher crime rate; and in Canada and the US racial minorities (who are also often poor) also have a higher crime rate. I had no intention of explaining why, but since you wish to know (in spite of already knowing the answer) it has to do with a variety of factors; including a crime ridden environment; drug problems; high unemployment; substandard housing; and a lack of education just to mention a few. I could elaborate, but I don't want to start teaching basic criminology in this forum.
That is one of the mansions on south west marine drive I was referring to. I was shown all thru that house
at one time because friends of ours cared for the house and grounds, and they showed us thru the whole
area, quite the place, with beautiful views of the fraser river and ocean beyond.
That must have been mid to late 50's. Harry Reifel I believe was his name.
We have this happening on our border with Mixico and where is President Obama, on vacation. What is happening on the border would go a long way for him if he cleaned it up.
EL PASO, Texas – Eder Diaz and Manuel Acosta were Americans whose lives straddled the border, business students attending classes at the University of Texas at El Paso but living in Ciudad Juarez amid family and friends.
They had been on their campus, a peaceful enclave of grassy plazas flanked by breathtaking desert mountains, just hours before they were gunned down last week in Juarez, their car riddled with bullets as they headed home.
Risks grow for those whose lives straddle border - Yahoo! News
Uh but you see things were calm when there was a cartel the dominated the drug flow into the US. Since the US fed Mexico dollars and equipment to stage an all out assault on that cartel and kill the major players, the leadership of that was thrown into flux. Now with rival gangs moving in while the power struggle works itself out, people get killed and the drugs flow.
So ask yourself the question, was it better when the drugs flowed and one brutal bastard was in charge or now when many are fighting it out to take that position while the drugs still flow?
It shouldn't be oblivious to you that the drug flow never even flinched.
Drugs will probably always flow across the border, but their (the cartel's) internal turf wars have got to stop. It won't be much longer before the U.S. gives them one of our special "shock and awe's. We don't have to occupy anything, the only problem is permission from the Mexican goverment at the moment.It will be done one way or another.
Like the title of the thread says:
'War on drugs a war on minorities'
Right! The minority being the adle-minded, idiotic, weak-kneed and spineless poor excuses for human beings who need illegal drugs to muddle thru their miserable existance. They are about 5% of the population. A true minority.
'War on drugs a war on minorities'
Right! The minority being the adle-minded, idiotic, weak-kneed and spineless poor excuses for human beings who need illegal drugs to muddle thru their miserable existance. They are about 5% of the population. A true minority.
Yes they surely will. Shock and awe doesn't work. It won't stop drug movement at all. But it will disrupt those who are taking control of the cartels so another bunch of guys can vie for control through killing, tourists, police, those who live on the border, kids, grandparents, doctors, farmers, and other organized crime thugs. So really the problem isn't getting the permission for a shock and awe militarization, it's that attempting to disrupt the business of orchestrating the flow of drugs by killing off the leaders result instead in massive killing sprees where the public is often the target.
I know it is difficult to accept for some, that brute force isn't going to solve the problems associated with illegal drugs, but it's the truth and the killing will continue until that bloody vicious leadership void is filled. And it will be filled by someone. The drugs will flow, just as they are flowing and have always flowed into the US.
People will buy those drugs by the billions of dollars worth and the only thing that will be remembered is the intervention by the US that got a bunch of people killed.
So why not just cut to the end and stop all the death?
Canada Has the Most Pot Smokers in Industrialized World
Canada Has the Most Pot Smokers in Industrialized World - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News - FOXNews.com
If you're going to try and target the minority of people who smoke, rather then race minority, at least get your statistics right.
I suppose Obama, Clinton, Bush, Queen Victoria, Bruce Lee, Bill Gates, Dr Francis Crick, George Washington, Jack Nicholson, John Wayne, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles, Stephen King, Ted Turner, Wesley Snipes, William Shakespeare are all "adle-minded, idiotic, weak-kneed and spineless poor excuses for human beings who need illegal drugs to muddle thru their miserable existance"
^ They did a hell of a lot more in their lives then you have.... and those are just a fraction of the famous people who smoked weed, I didn't even include the rich and famous people out there who used other drugs you don't approve of who've done a hell of a lot more for this planet, their lives and humanity then you ever have..... so if their lives are truly that miserable, what does that say about yours?
I didn't even touch on all the people who aren't famous but are equally successful or otherwise have lives they're happy with and enjoy..... but if you think all their successes, accomplishments and their happiness aren't worth a damn in your eyes and are not proof that your view is clearly wrong, I suppose you'll never get it.
Sorry, Prax. Didn't you hear?
Your link is not valid because it's from Fox.
At least that's what all of us pro-msnbc zealots believe, lol
Your link is not valid because it's from Fox.
At least that's what all of us pro-msnbc zealots believe, lol
I figured a comment on it being Fox would pop up eventually..... I figured those who continually defend Fox News wouldn't be able to dispute the information being provided by their favorite republican news source, if they're around in the thread to read it.
But a simple google search on the same subject will provide the same statistics and information as the above, so I didn't feel the need to use another source then this one.
Praxius, I must confess, YOU GOT ME!!!!
Would you be just as sanctimonious if I had said - instead of a n admittedly misinformed 5% - a small percentage?
Get real. Illegal is illegal, no matter how you try to jasify it. Until the law is changed, shut up! And I promise that WHEN the law is changed I WILL SHUT UP.
BTW, the constant bashing I hear from ill-informed or misinformed dupes about FOXNews has been totally repudiated by your quote. Maybe FOX IS fair and balanced, NO?
Would you be just as sanctimonious if I had said - instead of a n admittedly misinformed 5% - a small percentage?
Get real. Illegal is illegal, no matter how you try to jasify it. Until the law is changed, shut up! And I promise that WHEN the law is changed I WILL SHUT UP.
BTW, the constant bashing I hear from ill-informed or misinformed dupes about FOXNews has been totally repudiated by your quote. Maybe FOX IS fair and balanced, NO?
Define "drug" and "illegal" and "drug user" then come back and post again.
None are fair and balanced if they manipulate you emotionally. To get emotionally wound up only indicates that brandwashing works and works well.