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Retired_Can_Soldier

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My share? Fuck that, I moving to Belize to sell "infused" pannekoeken to Dutch tourists.

LOL Actually, I'd pay my share if it meant I didn't have to pay for Taxslave's and Ron's share and your share. Fuck Serrya; she can't hear this, so she can pay her share. LOL
 
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petros

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I was exposed to TB in Chilliwack on the army base. There was a civilian cook on the base who had TB and he died, but nobody figured it out until people who worked with him started getting TB. Luckily, I did not contract it, but I did the testing.

What the government did was vilify Canadians who took a pass on the vaccine and lumped in people who could not take it. I listened to the whole mantra how they were prolonging it. Spreading it! Don't get me started on those misogynistic, fringey, truckers, who were probably funded by Putin

Fucking government could have kept it well under a trillion and not tried to divide Canadians.

300 Million to the Alphabet folks because they were so marginalized during the pandemic.

Maybe they should have had Palestinian flags?
I had Covid like TB and chicken pox, strep can sidestep vaccines. Eventually all vaccines, antibiotics, antiviral and antiparsitic drugs and vaccines are at the edge of the cliff.

Its just a matter of time but Im more worried about the short tainted being unable to carry the human species much further anyway.
 
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petros

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LOL Actually, I'd pay my share if it meant I didn't have to pay for Taxslave's and Ron's share and your share. Fuck Serrya; she can't hear this, so she can pay her share. LOL
Sell everything, take your pensions, buy 2 sections of farmland, put in an intergenerational trust then lease it out at $55K USD a year. Belize is cheap and you can fly to a Toronto hospital in just a few hours for cheap.

Put that in your pancake and smoke it.

See ya on the beach!
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

The End of the Dog is Coming!
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Sell everything, take your pensions, buy 2 sections of farmland, put in an intergenerational trust then lease it out at $55K USD a year. Belize is cheap and you can fly to a Toronto hospital in just a few hours for cheap.

Put that in your pancake and smoke it.

See ya on the beach!
Too far away from my grandkids.
 

petros

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I've been a nomad my whole life. My ideal retirement is walking in the country with my grandkids and maybe hotboxing one of my son's tractors when he needs a field turned.
If you want waddle around outdoors like a penguin and plow a row in February all the power to ya but have ever heard of ice fishing?
 

Taxslave2

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So you'd rather see kids in iron lungs again and dying, all out of fear of Government doing the job we elect it to do.
When did we elect a government to force people to inject poisons into their bodies? Are you hoping for a government that forces everyone to take puberty blockers, because of "the science"? Will you be first in line when they decide that we are overpopulated and start enforced MAID?
 
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Taxslave2

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ice fishing?
Where are you going to find ice with all the globull warming floating around? And why fish for it? I know places where you can get it delivered to your door. Mother nature does it for free every year.
 

Serryah

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When did we elect a government to force people to inject poisons into their bodies? Are you hoping for a government that forces everyone to take puberty blockers, because of "the science"? Will you be first in line when they decide that we are overpopulated and start enforced MAID?

Goddamn your paranoia is really out there.

Public health is part of the Government purview and has been for decades. That's how they can put out mandates when there's a health crisis or situation. That INCLUDES Vaccines and the roll out and guidelines for them.

If you don't want vaccines for your kids, fine, the alternative is to lock them up in your house and not allow them out at all, because either they will become infected with something, OR they will get it and pass it along to others who can't get vaccinated or who are immune compromised. Or are those people not anyone important enough to care about?

Why would government force puberty blockers on people who don't need them? Again, your paranoia is really out there.

You CANNOT force MAID and you obviously don't know the hoops that are required to be jumped through for it.

Seriously Tax... calm the hell down. The Government doesn't give that much of a damn about you to be personally against you.
 
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petros

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Goddamn your paranoia is really out there.

Public health is part of the Government purview and has been for decades. That's how they can put out mandates when there's a health crisis or situation. That INCLUDES Vaccines and the roll out and guidelines for them.

If you don't want vaccines for your kids, fine, the alternative is to lock them up in your house and not allow them out at all, because either they will become infected with something, OR they will get it and pass it along to others who can't get vaccinated or who are immune compromised. Or are those people not anyone important enough to care about?

Why would government force puberty blockers on people who don't need them? Again, your paranoia is really out there.

You CANNOT force MAID and you obviously don't know the hoops that are required to be jumped through for it.

Seriously Tax... calm the hell down. The Government doesn't give that much of a damn about you to be personally against you.
Health is a personal responsibility.

Im not responsible for your short taint (AGD) or anyone else with a short taint (AGD).

Short anogenital distance (AGD) is associated with lower testosterone levels in men:
Study 1: Men with hypogonadal testosterone levels (less than 300 ng/dl) had a significantly shorter AGD than men with higher testosterone levels.

Study 2: For each 1 cm increase in AGD, serum testosterone increased by 20.1 ng/dl.
AGD is a marker for genital development and can be used to assess testicular function. Other studies have found that:
Shorter stretched penile length (SPL) is associated with male infertility.
Agents that disrupt androgen signaling can lead to abnormal genital lengths and alter testicular function.

The hormone "environment" a fetus is exposed to in the uterus may affect sperm count and AGD.
Exposure to phthalates during pregnancy may be linked to shorter AGD in sons.


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Ron in Regina

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These other shots are just Darwinian evolution. I’ve got them or if I didn’t, I would get them. If somebody chooses not to that’s their prerogative.
So, as I asked Tax, you want children dying and people in iron lungs, and all the other known complications that come from NOT dealing with these diseases?

Are you prepared to pay even more to help take care of these people? Or do we go back to pre 1950's life again? Because that's what is being pushed right now.
What? Honestly, Because I think vaccines are a good thing, & I believe in individual choice, I want to go back to 1950’s & children in Iron Lungs? I did my homework, with the available info at the time, & got my two Covid shots & three boosters. It was my choice.
 

Serryah

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What? Honestly, Because I think vaccines are a good thing, & I believe in individual choice, I want to go back to 1950’s & children in Iron Lungs?

Pretty much. I mean, individual choice would allow for people not to get vaccinated (as opposed to mandatory vaccinations kids must have), which would lead to kids getting polio and either being paralyzed or worse. And you're okay with that, so... yes.

I did my homework, with the available info at the time, & got my two Covid shots & three boosters. It was my choice.

You did your homework and are smarter than some people out there. Good.

But when it comes to some vaccines, there shouldn't be a choice (again, why they're mandated). But if you refuse to get them even then, as per 'individual choice', are you for repercussions of such choices like refusing to allow kids to go to school or to be at any social events, due to the risks to everyone?
 
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Ron in Regina

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And you're okay with that, so... yes.
Holy Hell. Ok. Sure. Whatever.
But when it comes to some vaccines, there shouldn't be a choice (again, why they're mandated). But if you refuse to get them even then, as per 'individual choice', are you for repercussions of such choices like refusing to allow kids to go to school or to be at any social events, due to the risks to everyone?
I hear you. How about mandatory vaccinations for children, and adults whom assumably are of age to make adult decisions…make their own decisions in a “My Body, My Choice” sort’a way once they are….legally adults….old enough to serve in the military and vote and be convicted as an adult in a court of law for example?

Does that work? If you’re old enough to buy alcohol and cigarettes and marijuana legally from the government so that they get their cut….& you’re old enough to go overseas and die for your nation….Then you’re old enough to make your own health decisions for your own body? Children, by definition, aren’t old enough to make their own health decisions, so they should be mandated to get their vaccinations (polio, rubella, etc…) until they become adults and reach the age of majority?

Does that fit/work? Are adults not adults so legally responsible for themselves, so they’d be responsible to make medical decisions on elective procedures?

Does your “Your Body, My Choice” Father knows best attitude extend to…lets say Immigrants and Refugees (regardless of age, or just the children?)…not being allowed into Canada until they’ve had their full run of vaccinations that children in Canada would get as children. No vaccinations = no entry?
 

Taxslave2

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Goddamn your paranoia is really out there.

Public health is part of the Government purview and has been for decades. That's how they can put out mandates when there's a health crisis or situation. That INCLUDES Vaccines and the roll out and guidelines for them.

If you don't want vaccines for your kids, fine, the alternative is to lock them up in your house and not allow them out at all, because either they will become infected with something, OR they will get it and pass it along to others who can't get vaccinated or who are immune compromised. Or are those people not anyone important enough to care about?

Why would government force puberty blockers on people who don't need them? Again, your paranoia is really out there.

You CANNOT force MAID and you obviously don't know the hoops that are required to be jumped through for it.

Seriously Tax... calm the hell down. The Government doesn't give that much of a damn about you to be personally against you.
Holy fukk are you ever stupid. Public health does not include forcing people to take an untested vaccine.I am not necessarily anti vaccine, but I expect them to be thourly tested first. That means at least a decade of testing before forcing them on a gullible public. Probably the only good thing to come out of this plandemic is that people with a high enough IQ to think for themselves will now question government decrees that don't pass the smell test.
The government has been pushing MAID on veterans with mental health problems.The ultimate cure with no repeat customers.
 
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Serryah

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Holy Hell. Ok. Sure. Whatever.

Well you are the one basically calling for it, not me.

I hear you. How about mandatory vaccinations for children,

Already a thing, a thing that certain people want to get rid of.

and adults whom assumably are of age to make adult decisions…

And that age would be?

make their own decisions in a “My Body, My Choice”

What age can a person say "my body, my choice"?

sort’a way once they are….legally adults….

Legal adults being...

old enough to serve in the military and vote and be convicted as an adult in a court of law for example?

So... old enough to serve in the military under 'normal' circumstances is 17, or 16 if parent's are okay with it.

Voting is 18.

Depending on the crime, people as young as 14 can be tried as adults.

So that's a pretty wide range. Which age do we pick then?

(for what it's worth I know that you're being, well facetious in all this but I'll humour you for now)

Does that work?

No, it doesn't.

And you never answered my actual question: "But if you refuse to get them even then, as per 'individual choice', are you for repercussions of such choices like refusing to allow kids to go to school or to be at any social events, due to the risks to everyone?"

If you’re old enough to buy alcohol and cigarettes and marijuana legally from the government so that they get their cut….& you’re old enough to go overseas and die for your nation….Then you’re old enough to make your own health decisions for your own body?

I could agree with that, sure. However, diseases don't give a damn about us being 'adults' or able to make our own choices. They go after the weakest and vulnerable. Kids are vulnerable.

Children, by definition, aren’t old enough to make their own health decisions, so they should be mandated to get their vaccinations (polio, rubella, etc…) until they become adults and reach the age of majority?

Sure. But again, there are people out there who want to stop even this. That's the problem.

Does that fit/work?

Again, no.

Are adults not adults so legally responsible for themselves, so they’d be responsible to make medical decisions on elective procedures?

Vaccinations aren't always 'elective'. There are times when even adults "have" to do something they might not otherwise want to, if they want to travel or work, for example. Under this farce of RFK Jr's, health care people wouldn't get their vaccinations for, say, MMR, Hep B and others, putting their patients at risk. As of now, to work in health care you need those vaccinations, or you don't work.

Does your “Your Body, My Choice”

I hope to hell that was a mistake on your part. Because if you are trying to compare vaccinations to fucking rape, this convo is over.
 

Serryah

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Holy fukk are you ever stupid.

Not as stupid as you evidently.

Public health does not include forcing people to take an untested vaccine.

That's true, that's why vaccines ARE tested.

I am not necessarily anti vaccine,

You come across as someone who is.

but I expect them to be thourly tested first. That means at least a decade of testing before forcing them on a gullible public.

Sure, okay. I know where this is going though...

Probably the only good thing to come out of this plandemic is that people with a high enough IQ to think for themselves will now question government decrees that don't pass the smell test.

HUZZAH! There she blows... the usual bullshit conspiracy noise.

Calling it a "Plandemic" just shows your fucking stupidity for buying into conspiracy theories like the dipshit RFK Jr.

Then there's the fact mRNA vaccines have been tested since the 90's, so that's well over a decade, so what's your damned issue? It's the chip, isn't it? The one they'll implant? You don't like that idea, right?

As for mentioning IQ, I wouldn't do that considering yours seems to be below even the normal.

The government has been pushing MAID on veterans with mental health problems.The ultimate cure with no repeat customers.

Yeah, I've heard that. You're also full of shit and so are others. The Government CAN'T push MAID on anyone. Hell, depending on where you are in Canada, how MAID is handled varies.

See, here's the thing about MAID you obviously are clueless to. Now, this is NB and things are different elsewhere in Canada, I admit that. But this is the actual process I had deal with for a patient. You need TWO doctors to agree to it and BOTH have to talk with the patient about it. The patient also has to be 'of sound mind' and agree that yes they want this for themselves. The paperwork is signed and put on the chart record as well as being faxed off to a department meant to keep track of it. BUT until the moment that it happens, the patient can, AT ANY TIME, opt OUT of MAID.

What your chicken little brain has clung onto were reports of five people feeling like they were being pressured by ONE worker who was investigated for this (back in 2022). That was ONE worker, NOT the Government. And that doesn't make it right or even LEGAL.

The BIGGER issue with MAID is people with problems - mental or physical disabilities - who feel that opting into MAID would resolve their problems, and those of their family, because of their life situation, which usually falls under the "unable to afford to live, pay bills" things. Of course the way to help with those cases would mean funds going to disability and mental health care and we can't have THAT happen at all! So those people suffer, and so do their families, until they think MAID will help (which they learn they can't opt into it).




What needs to happen with MAID is better policies and a consistent standard of care all across the Country.

MAID has nothing to do with vaccines though.