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Jinentonix

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Goddamn your paranoia is really out there.

Public health is part of the Government purview and has been for decades.
Which is why this govt left the borders WIDE open for immigration, including illegals during the pandemic. Because of their undying commitment to the public's health.
 
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Jinentonix

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That's true, that's why vaccines ARE tested.
Yep. and the Covid vaccine was tested on the entire population.
It takes about 5 years for a new vaccine to be rolled out, sometimes longer. This vaccine was rolled out in literally months. They lied about its efficacy. Hell, they even changed the definition of "vaccine" to make up for its lack of efficacy.
YOU were the vaccine test.
 
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Yep. and the Covid vaccine was tested on the entire population.
It takes about 5 years for a new vaccine to be rolled out, sometimes longer. This vaccine was rolled out in literally months. They lied about its efficacy. Hell, they even changed the definition of "vaccine" to make up for its lack of efficacy.
YOU were the vaccine test.
So. . . Trump's a lying sack of shit and Operation Warp Speed was another con job?
 
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Yep. and the Covid vaccine was tested on the entire population.

Yep, it was, because the population demanded it, or do you not remember that part?

It takes about 5 years for a new vaccine to be rolled out, sometimes longer.

Under normal circumstances, that's true. Do you know why?

This vaccine was rolled out in literally months.

Yep, because it was demanded.

They lied about its efficacy.

Did they? Considering where we were vs. where we are now, I'd say that it was a pretty normal efficacy for a vaccine.

Hell, they even changed the definition of "vaccine" to make up for its lack of efficacy.

No, they didn't. YOU and others like you just didn't understand what vaccine meant.


So will you say "Well shucks, I'm sorry I got that wrong then?" and stop lying?

YOU were the vaccine test.

Yep.

Considering my situation at the time, I was good with it.

You were free NOT to get the vaccine, you just had consequences you had to consider if you didn't.

I get why people were sus about it, so was I, but weighed against the alternative, and as more knowledge came out about it, I got the shot. No issues what so ever since.

Yes, there were people who did have problems, but then not every vaccine works for every person, and sometimes adverse reactions happen from mild to serious, to death.

But as with other vaccines, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have them at all. Or are you advocating for that?
 

petros

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Yep, it was, because the population demanded it, or do you not remember that part?



Under normal circumstances, that's true. Do you know why?



Yep, because it was demanded.



Did they? Considering where we were vs. where we are now, I'd say that it was a pretty normal efficacy for a vaccine.



No, they didn't. YOU and others like you just didn't understand what vaccine meant.


So will you say "Well shucks, I'm sorry I got that wrong then?" and stop lying?



Yep.

Considering my situation at the time, I was good with it.

You were free NOT to get the vaccine, you just had consequences you had to consider if you didn't.

I get why people were sus about it, so was I, but weighed against the alternative, and as more knowledge came out about it, I got the shot. No issues what so ever since.

Yes, there were people who did have problems, but then not every vaccine works for every person, and sometimes adverse reactions happen from mild to serious, to death.

But as with other vaccines, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have them at all. Or are you advocating for that?
Wow. You absolutely hate having to accept the truth. Thats highly a feminine trait. Im still waiting fof something masculine from you to prove youre "nonbinary".
 

Jinentonix

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Yep, it was, because the population demanded it, or do you not remember that part?
Demanded something that didn't exist yet? Okay. And the only demanding I heard was from hysterical nut jobs demanding people be forced into vaccinations if need be or thrown in some gulag.
Under normal circumstances, that's true. Do you know why?
Yeah, it's called public safety and regulations.
Yep, because it was demanded.
By whom? The WHO? Big Pharma? The politicians who stood to make a small killing from it? You're telling me that throngs of people were insisting that they be experimented on. Is that what you're insisting?
Did they? Considering where we were vs. where we are now, I'd say that it was a pretty normal efficacy for a vaccine.
Was it? Considering Covid really was no worse than a nasty strain of flu as far as mortality rates go and who those rates affected.
No, they didn't. YOU and others like you just didn't understand what vaccine meant.
5 years of biology, Toots. I know what a fucking vaccine is. I don't recall stories of hospitals being jammed with patients after getting the small-pox vax. I don't recall stories of hospitals being jammed with patients after getting the polio vax. I don't recall hospitals being jammed with patients after getting the MMR vax, although I did ultimately get the mumps, still wasn't hospitalized for them. Hell, we even stood in line at school to get booster shots from visiting nurses. Those vaccines provided near 100% efficacy although as I'm sure you know vaccines aren't going to be 100% effective for 100% of the population.
A vaccine is defined as a prophylactic. Same as a condom. Now imagine condoms being advertised/promoted the same way the Covid vaccine was. "You might still get pregnant, but you won't be as pregnant." Whooo! Big selling point there.

So will you say "Well shucks, I'm sorry I got that wrong then?" and stop lying?
I'm not lying. I looked up the on-line definition of vaccine during Covid and it sure as fuck wasn't anything I heard in 5 years of biology or anything I or anyone of my generation experienced with vaccines.
Yep.

Considering my situation at the time, I was good with it.

You were free NOT to get the vaccine, you just had consequences you had to consider if you didn't.

I get why people were sus about it, so was I, but weighed against the alternative, and as more knowledge came out about it, I got the shot. No issues what so ever since.

Yes, there were people who did have problems, but then not every vaccine works for every person, and sometimes adverse reactions happen from mild to serious, to death.

But as with other vaccines, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have them at all. Or are you advocating for that?
This was rather less successful than previous vaccines when it came to protection. If you were fine with being a guinea pig that's your choice. I wasn't fine with it. I also wasn't fine with the shit-sucking attitude of those who wanted to force it on everyone. Especially from a govt that kept Canada's borders wide-fucking-open during the entire pandemic. How fucking serious could Covid have been if the govt wasn't taking it seriously?
 
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But Vaccines are junk.
Yes they are in many instances.
 

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Is there an organic covid vax yet? Flu is flu. Flu vax kinda work if they guess the right annually dominant varient. If they guess wrong that year it gets messy.
 
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petros

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Nobody owes you a job in the U.S. either.

It's in the Fifth Amendment. . . "nor shall any person . . . be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

Not a word in there about your job.
Liberty.

lib·er·ty
noun
1.
the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
"compulsory retirement would interfere with individual liberty"

2.
the power or scope to act as one pleases.
"individuals should enjoy the liberty to pursue their own interests and preferences".

Where was the due process?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Liberty.

lib·er·ty
noun
1.
the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views.
"compulsory retirement would interfere with individual liberty"

2.
the power or scope to act as one pleases.
"individuals should enjoy the liberty to pursue their own interests and preferences".

Where was the due process?
In the Fifth Amendment, liberty means "not being in jail."

Hope that helps clear up your confusion.