US war-murdered 20-30 million people since WW2

Ocean Breeze

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US covert and overt criminal Wars of Aggression caused 20-30 million deaths of human beings since World War 2, according to the outstanding documentation of James Lucas of Countercurrents.org. The US use/support of armed attacks is documented in 37 countries, and in direct violation of treaties after both world wars (Kellogg-Briand and UN Charter) to forever end armed attacks unless first attacked by another nation’s government.
The end of this gruesome and psychopathic history of armed attacks and war-murders in the Orwellian names of unalienable rights and freedom will end upon the demand of enough in the 99% to arrest the obvious current War Criminals


Certainly makes one pause..... as those are some interesting statistics. (and tragic too) There is no way , a nation with that kind of track record can be called a "peace promoting" ideology. It is probably a good thing that americans don't care what others think of them .....as the reality is mighty unpleasant.

US war-murdered 20-30 million people since WW2: arrest today
 

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US covert and overt criminal Wars of Aggression caused 20-30 million deaths of human beings since World War 2
And that doesn't even include the millions of deaths of aliens!
 

damngrumpy

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So what you are saying is every war since WWII is America's fault. Nice try
I agree there are some instances where America could have kept its nose out
of things but after that, its a stretch to fulfil the rest of your comments.
Vietnam is a prime example of America going in to shore up the vacuum after
the collapse of the French run country. The Commie Scare was the boogieman
of the time and America went in.

Iraq is another case of where they should have stayed out of things especially the
second incursion.

Korea, Afghanistan and some of the others were valid operations and the problem is
with your comment is you do not distinguish between necessary and unnecessary campaigns.
Blanket statements over reach and it also diminishes one credibility on such issues.
 

gerryh

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So what you are saying is every war since WWII is America's fault. Nice try
I agree there are some instances where America could have kept its nose out
of things but after that, its a stretch to fulfil the rest of your comments.
Vietnam is a prime example of America going in to shore up the vacuum after
the collapse of the French run country. The Commie Scare was the boogieman
of the time and America went in.

Iraq is another case of where they should have stayed out of things especially the
second incursion.

Korea, Afghanistan and some of the others were valid operations and the problem is
with your comment is you do not distinguish between necessary and unnecessary campaigns.
Blanket statements over reach and it also diminishes one credibility on such issues.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...cause the dead are so much better off in a "necessary" war compared to an "unnecessary" war.
 

Colpy

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Certainly makes one pause..... as those are some interesting statistics. (and tragic too) There is no way , a nation with that kind of track record can be called a "peace promoting" ideology. It is probably a good thing that americans don't care what others think of them .....as the reality is mighty unpleasant.

US war-murdered 20-30 million people since WW2: arrest today

Are you that ignorant, or simply that stupid????

Read a little history NOT written by the COMINTERN.

Unbelievable.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...cause the dead are so much better off in a "necessary" war compared to an "unnecessary" war.


The dead are not.

The world is.

Unless you LIKED Joe Stalin.

You people really don't have a clue.
 

Cliffy

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The dead are not.

The world is.

Unless you LIKED Joe Stalin.

You people really don't have a clue.
I suppose the millions killed by those who attended the School of the Americas to prop up despotic dictators who protected US corporate interests, like the United Fruit Company and others, are better off from not having to live under such oppressive regimes. I was in Guatemala when US supported government troops were waging war on Mayan peasants so they could steal their land for US corporate interests. Neither we or the Yanks have any reason to be self righteous about.
 

55Mercury

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Certainly makes one pause..... as those are some interesting statistics. (and tragic too) There is no way , a nation with that kind of track record can be called a "peace promoting" ideology. It is probably a good thing that americans don't care what others think of them .....as the reality is mighty unpleasant.

US war-murdered 20-30 million people since WW2: arrest today
and for some perspective, how many have died in road accidents world-wide in the same time frame?
 

Cliffy

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and for some perspective, how many have died in road accidents world-wide in the same time frame?
That is not perspective, that is deflection. Auto deaths are not intentional (except in extremely rare cases). Bombing, shooting people and training death squads for South and Central American dictators is pretty intentional.
 

damngrumpy

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There are times when war is a valid option, Korea is an example. As I said, Vietnam was not
a valid reason to go to war. Neither was Iraq.
The problem is we do not always take into account the history around us at the time of the war.
Korea was popular, Vietnam was almost unknown until it escalated in the mid sixties.
Iraq was popular in the eye of the American public but most of the world had reservations.
Afghanistan is an example of we watched the suffering of women and children under a regime
that was nut. That regime was behind the attack on the towers and people demanded action.
The mistake was, Iraq was attacked instead in real terms and it destabilized the Middle East.
In Iraq Saddam was installed by America and when they couldn't control him the overthrew him
with a better class of crazy people but crazy people none the less.

There are necessary wars, WWII is a prime example of that.
 

taxslave

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So all the wars have been started by the US? Right.
Must all be Harper's fault.
How about how many lives have been saved because of US intervention in pissant dictatorships?
 

Bar Sinister

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Anyone bother to do the math of that claim? US forces have certainly killed a large number of people since World War II, but does it add up to 20 or 30 million?
 

The Old Medic

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Just more of the same old anti-American bull manure!

Korea, the war was started by North Korean (and the Soviets).

Vietnam, we had a treaty with the Republic of Vietnam (S. Vietnam), which we kept.

Iraq, the ONLY problem with Iraq was that we should have finished the job the first time.

Afghanistan, we gave them every chance to hand over Osama bin Ladin, and they refused. Besides, this truly was a cooperative effort, and still is. There were excellent grounds to kick out the Taliban, simply because of their treatment of women, and they destruction of world class historical settings.

And I really hate to break it to the Jew baiter, MHz, but the Rothchild's have absolutely nothing to do with the wars of the past 100 years. Only Neo-Nazi's would believe that they did.

Oh yes, Ocean Breeze, even if you were correct (and you are not), how do you justify the well over 20 million Soviet citizens murdered by Stalin, or the over 50 million Chinese citizens murdered by Mao? By the standards you claim, the USA would be real pikers in the murdering of people game compared to the Communists.

And then, there are all of the wars in Asia, Africa, South America, etc that have been financed, and armed by the Soviets and Chinese. And of course, the Arab armies that have had their collective asses kicked by Israel repeatedly were primarily armed by the Soviet Union.

Maybe, those Arab countries should sue the Russians, for the deaths of all of their soldiers and airmen (estimated to be around 75,000) because of the defective and 3rd rate Soviet weapons that were sold to them?



 

Vanni Fucci

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Vietnam, we had a treaty with the Republic of Vietnam (S. Vietnam), which we kept.

Yeah, but the reasons for entering the war in the first place (Gulf of Tonkin) were fabricated...

Iraq, the ONLY problem with Iraq was that we should have finished the job the first time.
Yeah, but the reasons for entering the war the second time (WMD and 9/11 Collusion) were fabricated...