US did more than UK and USSR to defeat Nazi Germany

[EagleSmack]

"nationalist"

That's a dirty word if anyone but an AMERICAN HERO uses it. I guess that is what is meant by "exceptionalism".

Caen was the hinge of the whole battle You should take another look. You won't though will you?

That is what you are... a nationalist hoser.


A nationalist hoser that doesn't have a clue about the Normandy Campaign.


And thought that the Canadian forces in WW1 and WW2 were all volunteers! lmao.


Caen was not the hinge... nor was it the center... since you changed it from center to hinge because you're completely baffled at this point. Caen was Monty's objective and he got bogged down.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Canada Drafted in both world wars.

Canada drafted in both wars when we ran out of soldiers but the draftees in WWII were called "zombies" by the soldiers and weren't considered to be fit for combat.

On that same note, do you know why the Germans chose the Americans to counterattack against in the Ardennes during Christmas of 1944?

They could have attacked in the North, against the Canadians through Holland, maybe achieved a grand encirclement. The German commanders were all WWI veterans, so they didn't go that way. They could have attacked the Brits, but they chose not to.

They chose the draftee Americans (perhaps with some intel abut the American educational system) as the weak spot in the allied line.

Do you know what a hoser is, Yank?

 

[Cliffy]

lol, one is good enough....a red or two is now expected... ;-)

They're too busy wagging their dicks.

They had to draft them.

They had to draft them in both wars, those heroes.

My dad was at Normandy. He was in signals so he was only allowed on the beech to set up comm lines after it was taken. He said he saw the Canadians and Brits take their sections and the Yanks got cut to peices because " they all thought they were John Wayne fighting in a Hollywood movie." I wasn't there so that is all I have to go on.

 

[taxslave]

They're too busy wagging their dicks.


My dad was at Normandy. He was in signals so he was only allowed on the beech to set up comm lines after it was taken. He said he saw the Canadians and Brits take their sections and the Yanks got cut to peices because " they all thought they were John Wayne fighting in a Hollywood movie." I wasn't there so that is all I have to go on.

Which is how most Americans get their history lessons.

 

[darkbeaver]

If the Limeys and the Yankees hadn,t started the second world war they would have had little trouble stopping it in the first place. Screw it, the false remembrance is pathetic, history is about to be repeated by the same slaughter managers, we don't remember a damn thing, and they make sure we never will. Them that profit from war should all die horribly in the first one they can find.

 

[Curious Cdn]

They're too busy wagging their dicks.


My dad was at Normandy. He was in signals so he was only allowed on the beech to set up comm lines after it was taken. He said he saw the Canadians and Brits take their sections and the Yanks got cut to peices because " they all thought they were John Wayne fighting in a Hollywood movie." I wasn't there so that is all I have to go on.

Gold Sword and Juno were all bombarded from the sea for an hour and a half before the men landed. The Americans waived the longer bombardment and cut it short at 1/2hour, for whatever reasons I do not understand. That probably added about a thousand dead to their landing, having their men face undisturbed defenses.

Then again, the Americans ended World War One still making full frontal assaults, bayonets fixed, straight into the German machine guns, just like the French did back in 1914. The other allies had learned more scientific means of attacking but the Americans would have none of that pansy-*** stuff. Pershing was butchering his troops right up to 11-11-11. Maybe, that sort of doctrine lingered all the way to D-Day. "We don't need a long bombardment to soften them up! That's not the manly way to fight!"

If the Limeys and the Yankees hadn,t started the second world war they would have had little trouble stopping it in the first place. Screw it, the false remembrance is pathetic, history is about to be repeated by the same slaughter managers, we don't remember a damn thing, and they make sure we never will. Them that profit from war should all die horribly in the first one they can find.

How do you figure that the Yankees started a war that they were neutral in for three years? The war was years underway before the Americans were involved and they only became so because someone else attacked them.

I used to share an office with a Prussian engineer who was the son of an SS Colonel. He went on and on about how Britain was the real aggressor. When I pointed out to him that the German Army was times larger than the British at the start of both wars, his answer was that it was merely evidence of British incompetence.

Did you know that the war started when some Poles attacked a German border post (the one with 60 divisions idling their diesels behind?

Ja, ja, It ist true!

 

[EagleSmack]

They're too busy wagging their dicks.

Now cliffy will wag his own

My dad was at Normandy. He was in signals so he was only allowed on the beech to set up comm lines after it was taken. He said he saw the Canadians and Brits take their sections and the Yanks got cut to peices because " they all thought they were John Wayne fighting in a Hollywood movie." I wasn't there so that is all I have to go on.

Wow... you Dad didn't know what he was talking about.

Canada Drafted in both world wars.

Canada drafted in both wars when we ran out of soldiers but the draftees in WWII were called "zombies" by the soldiers and weren't considered to be fit for combat.

You had the draft... end of story.

On that same note, do you know why the Germans chose the Americans to counterattack against in the Ardennes during Christmas of 1944?

They could have attacked in the North, against the Canadians through Holland, maybe achieved a grand encirclement. The German commanders were all WWI veterans, so they didn't go that way. They could have attacked the Brits, but they chose not to.

They chose the draftee Americans (perhaps with some intel abut the American educational system) as the weak spot in the allied line.

Moving the goal posts again I see.


You got floored on Normandy so now you are bringing up the Battle of the Bulge.


I am quite sure you will stay far away from Operation Market Garden. I am quite sure you have no clue on what that even is.

Do you know what a hoser is, Yank?

Sure do. I looked it up before I used it to make sure I was using it correctly syrup guzzler. You should try researching and you won't look so ridiculous.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Wow... you Dad didn't know what he was talking about.

Given the choice between the reminiscences of "Dad", who was actually there and the opinions of a loud-mouth Marine, I'll choose Dad 10 times out of 10.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

They're too busy wagging their dicks.

That's what it's there for, Cliffy. Wagging. Having fun.

I suppose you keep yours all tucked away lest it cause microaggression trigger trauma.

Funny part is you don't even see that you're just as narrow-minded a moralizer as any church lady ever seen.

 

[EagleSmack]

Then again, the Americans ended World War One still making full frontal assaults, bayonets fixed, straight into the German machine guns, just like the French did back in 1914. The other allies had learned more scientific means of attacking but the Americans would have none of that pansy-*** stuff. Pershing was butchering his troops right up to 11-11-11.

How foolish. The Brits and the French bled their forces white including thousands of Canadians.


Pershing did not want his forces to be bled white and insisted on an independent command as the Brits and French wanted to use them as foder as they did with their own.


Now you have to read a book about WWI.

I used to share an office with a Prussian engineer who was the son of an SS Colonel. He went on and on about how Britain was the real aggressor. When I pointed out to him that the German Army was times larger than the British at the start of both wars, his answer was that it was merely evidence of British incompetence.

Did you know that the war started when some Poles attacked a German border post (the one with 60 divisions idling their diesels behind?

Ja, ja, It ist true!

Now you're using Goebbels Nazi Propaganda!

Wow... you Dad didn't know what he was talking about.

Given the choice between the reminiscences of "Dad", who was actually there and the opinions of a loud-mouth Marine, I'll choose Dad 10 times out of 10.

No you're choosing Cliffy's account. Amazing how he said his Dad could see for miles down the beach. He apparently could see from Juno Beach... through Gold Beach... all the way to the Omaha and Utah beachheads ... 10 to 20+ miles away!

Try reading a book on Operation Overlord and not the word of a buffoon on the internet.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Wow... you Dad didn't know what he was talking about.

Given the choice between the reminiscences of "Dad", who was actually there and the opinions of a loud-mouth Marine, I'll choose Dad 10 times out of 10.

Good idea. Nobody has a better grasp of strategy, global logistics, and the cultural and economic factors involved in a war than a semi-literate grunt in a foxhole somewhere.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Now you're using Goebbels Nazi Propaganda!


Of course I am, dingbbat. It's true what they say, Yanks can't wrap their little minds around irony.

Duuuh.

 

[EagleSmack]

Now you're using Goebbels Nazi Propaganda!


Of course I am, dingbbat. It's true what they say, Yanks can't wrap their little minds around irony.

Duuuh.

You seem to not be able to wrap your mind around a thing.


You've done very little here except make yourself look foolish.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Now you're using Goebbels Nazi Propaganda!


Of course I am, dingbbat. It's true what they say, Yanks can't wrap their little minds around irony.

Duuuh.

Yay. Another critique from Drunkenlumberjackistan.

 

[Blackleaf]

and the US was the top choice in all but the UK and Norway.

Good to see a few sensible countries out there, like the UK and Norway.

It was the UK and USSR who won WWII. Those people in those other countries have been watching too much Hollywood films.

 

[Colpy]

Then again, the Americans ended World War One still making full frontal assaults, bayonets fixed, straight into the German machine guns, just like the French did back in 1914. The other allies had learned more scientific means of attacking but the Americans would have none of that pansy-*** stuff. Pershing was butchering his troops right up to 11-11-11.



!

You should actually read some history before you start throwing rocks in a glass house.

Everyone in WWI used fixed bayonet mass attacks.

As for sacrificing troops right up to 11-11-11, the Canadian commander Sir Arthur Currie launched a Canadian attack on Mons, Belguim on Nov 10, 1918......as he thought it would be nice if they took the town where Germans and Brits first clashed in 1914 before the guns fell silent. The fight lasted into the morning of Nov 11, when the Germans abandoned the town. The men that died there on both sides died for nothing.

I'm advising you yet again, climb down off your high horse permanently. I'm getting tired of spanking you.

 

[Blackleaf]

How do you figure that the Yankees started a war that they were neutral in for three years? The war was years underway before the Americans were involved and they only became so because someone else attacked them.

I used to share an office with a Prussian engineer who was the son of an SS Colonel. He went on and on about how Britain was the real aggressor. When I pointed out to him that the German Army was times larger than the British at the start of both wars, his answer was that it was merely evidence of British incompetence.

Did you know that the war started when some Poles attacked a German border post (the one with 60 divisions idling their diesels behind?

Ja, ja, It ist true!

Yeah, they were angels, those Germans. WWII was all as a result of those evil British. Nothing at all to do with Nazi Germany invading Poland.

 

[Goober]

Wow... you Dad didn't know what he was talking about.

Given the choice between the reminiscences of "Dad", who was actually there and the opinions of a loud-mouth Marine, I'll choose Dad 10 times out of 10.

You are losing it. When you start with insults to make a point, well the point is not made.

 

[Colpy]

Yes the USA was late to World War One.

Why wouldn't they be?

It had absolutely nothing to do with them. We were automatically at war when Britain went to war, as we were a British possession.

But the war was a European war, over European interests, with nothing whatsoever to do with the USA. It was an incredibly stupid war that the world fell into.....but I see no reason to fault the Yanks for staying out as long as possible.

 

[coldstream]

World War 2 was won on the Eastern Front. It was won at the Battles of Stalingrad, Kursk, Berlin by the Red Army.... with 20 million Russian dead.

The Battles of Britain (Air War), Normandy, the Bulge and the Rhine were all sideshows to the War in the East.