Ukraine Flight 752 "Crash" killing 176 innocent people

[mrhill]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Severing all trade with the US would ruin Canada's economy.

Better than dealing with terrorists.

Oh and according to a lot of Canadians, they will do just fine without the US.

 

[mrhill]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Don't feed the trolls...

Because you don't like to hear the truth, that's why I am a troll to you.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Google is your friend.

It certainly is. You can find just about anything on Google: Hillary Clinton's child sex slave camp on Mars, where Elvis is living now, the REAL reason Harry and Meaghan are doing whatever the f*ck they're doing. . .

 

[petros]

Canadian Utility Grade Minister Justin Trudeau has implemented serious sanctions on the Iranian Government.

The sanctions will remain in place until the plastic black water box thingys from the Ukrainian Airlines have been returned for a refund!

 

[pgs]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Trump caused the chain of events that took place. with the assassination..... so he carries some responsibility for those tragic deaths. They died as a result of Iran's retaliation for the assassination. Interesting that the military bases were all cleared before they were hit by Iran's missslles........and the airport was left vulnerable.

No assassination.......no retaliation.. no missile hit of the passenger plane.

Not to worry...Trump will be given the pass as he gets with all his questionable behavior.

Well if Soleimani wasn’t at the airport at the time , he wouldn’t have been blown up . Logical . What was he doing out of Iran at the time ? I understand that the UN had banned him from travel outside Iran .

 

[pgs]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Soleimani was not assassinated.

A bomb just happened to fall on his head , some people have all the luck .

 

[Walter]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

A bomb just happened to fall on his head , some people have all the luck .

A justified battlefield killing, not an assassination.

 

[mrhill]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Trump caused the chain of events that took place. with the assassination..... so he carries some responsibility for those tragic deaths.

And of course he isn't going to pay for his crimes like Bush before him.

 

[DaSleeper]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

And of course he isn't going to pay for his crimes.

The one trick pony is back

 

[Blackleaf]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

He said he'd rather be neutral like Switzerland but of course, you don't like that. Any who do not side with you, are your enemies and will be treated as terrorists and will be destroyed, is that right?

After Iran has just killed 60 Canadians?

 

[Twin_Moose]

This populous anger is maybe a good thing.......as it puts people pressure on their regime.

Just say thank you Mr. President

 

[Twin_Moose]

Iran Admits Downing Jetliner, Sparking Global Anger and Protests

(Bloomberg) -- Iran said it accidentally shot down a Ukrainian jetliner it mistook for a cruise missile, a dramatic reversal that triggered international condemnation and protests in the streets of Tehran that in turn drew support from U.S. President Donald Trump.
“We are following your protests closely, and are inspired by your courage,” Trump said Saturday in a tweet posted in Farsi and English.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau earlier said he was “outraged” and “furious” by the admission that Iran had shot down Ukrainian International Airlines Flight PS752. At least 57 Canadians were among the 176 people killed.
“What Iran has admitted to is very serious. Shooting down a civilian aircraft is horrific. Iran must take full responsibility,” Trudeau said Saturday at a press briefing in Ottawa. He earlier declared the incident a national tragedy...…...Much More

Protests erupt again in Iran after admission of plane strike

Protesters piled pressure on Iran's leadership on Sunday with demands for top authorities to quit after the Iranian military admitted it had mistakenly shot down a Ukrainian airliner at a time when it had feared U.S. strikes.
"They are lying that our enemy is America, our enemy is right here," dozens of protesters outside a university in Tehran chanted, according to video clips posted on Twitter. Scores of demonstrators were also shown gathered in other cities.
The social media posts could not be verified by Reuters. But state-affiliated media had reported protests on Saturday shortly after the Iranian military apologized for mistakenly bringing down the Ukrainian plane on Wednesday, killing all 176 aboard.
Tehran residents told Reuters police were out in force in the capital on Sunday, as public anger boiled up following days of denials by the military that it was to blame, even as Canada and the United States said a missile had brought the plane down.
Riot police fired teargas at thousands of protesters in the capital on Saturday, where many had chanted "Death to the dictator," directing their anger at the Islamic Republic's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
"Apologize and resign," Iran's moderate Etemad daily wrote in a banner headline on Sunday, saying the "people's demand" was for those responsible for mishandling the plane crisis to quit.
The latest upsurge in anger adds to challenges facing the authorities, which launched a bloody crackdown in November to quell protests. The leadership is also struggling to keep the crippled economy afloat under rigorous U.S. sanctions.
The Ukraine International Airlines plane was shot down minutes after taking off from Tehran on Wednesday, when Iranian forces were on alert for U.S. reprisals following tit-for-tat strikes. Many of those on board were Iranians with dual citizenship, while 57 were holders of Canadian passports.
Iran's president said it was a "disastrous mistake" and apologized. But a top Revolutionary Guards commander added to public fury when he said he had told the authorities on the same day as the crash that an Iranian missile had struck the plane. The Guards' top commander, Hossein Salami, said "we are more upset than anyone over the incident," state media reported.
REVENGE
But others said Iran's enemies, a term usually used to refer to Washington and its allies, were exploiting the incident.
"Iran's enemies want to take revenge on the Guards for a military mistake," said Ali Shirazi, Khamenei's representative to the Quds Force, an elite Guards unit, state media reported.
After Saturday's protests, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Twitter: "There can not be another massacre of peaceful protesters, nor an internet shutdown. The world is watching."
Britain said its ambassador in Iran had been briefly detained on Saturday, which Iranian media said was because he was inciting protests. Some lawmakers said the envoy should leave Iran before being ejected, media reported......More

Trudeau outlines 'first steps' on long road to justice for victims of PS752

The Iranian government's admission that its own military forces shot down flight PS752 was "an important step," Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Saturday, but it was also a "first step." There are still, the prime minister explained, "many more steps" to be taken — that "must" be taken...……...Much More

Obama Should Never Have Appeased Iran

After Iran’s turn from ally to enemy in 1978, the U.S. pursued a de facto Iran policy of containment, similar to the U.S. approach to the Soviet Union during Cold War. Starting with the Obama administration, however, U.S. policy has seesawed between appeasement and confrontation, leading to a dangerously volatile situation.
Though it was never formalized, the strategy that came together under the administration of George W. Bush (I served at the Pentagon and in the Senate during this time) had three pillars. First, impose prohibitive penalties on Iran’s nuclear advance. Second, bolster America’s allies on Iran’s periphery—and particularly America’s precious alliance with Iraq—to prevent any Iranian threat to their security and to our position in the Middle East. Third, encourage Iran’s pro-democracy movement to assert itself and claim its rightful place in the country’s government.
When Obama became president, this strategy of containment backed by deterrence was working about as well as could be hoped. The Islamic Revolution of Ayatollah Khomeini, which was supposed to be a worldwide revolution, had succeeded in taking root nowhere outside Iran except in Lebanon, in the form of the deadly Hezbollah. At that time, there were elements among the Shiite militias in Iraq that were known to be in bed with the Iranians, and Iranian IEDs and other weapons had flooded Iraq’s civil war, but the major political groupings in Iraq, including the Shiite parties, were still openly opposed to Iranian interference in their country. In fact, on the eve of the 2008 election in the U.S., the Shiite-dominated government of Nouri Al-Maliki attacked the Iranian-backed militias that had infiltrated the southern city of Basra.
A few years in, the Obama administration took a major gamble. Seeing promise in less hostile relations with Iran, Obama decided to cut a deal with the mullahs. The nuclear deal of 2015 dismantled the regime of U.N. sanctions that had all but ruined the Iranian economy, in exchange for temporary limits on the key facilities of Iran’s nuclear weapons program and vague commitments never to develop nuclear weapons...…….More

 

[Colpy]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Better than dealing with terrorists.

Oh and according to a lot of Canadians, they will do just fine without the US.

In my ten years on this forum, I have never seen anyone get three reddies on a single post. Congratulations!


Oh............and you're an idiot.


The USA is one of the freest nations on earth.


Compared to Iran, the USA is heaven.


Compared to Iran's Khamenei, Trump is Mr. Rogers.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Trump caused the chain of events that took place. with the assassination..... so he carries some responsibility for those tragic deaths. They died as a result of Iran's retaliation for the assassination. Interesting that the military bases were all cleared before they were hit by Iran's missslles........and the airport was left vulnerable.
No assassination.......no retaliation.. no missile hit of the passenger plane.
Not to worry...Trump will be given the pass as he gets with all his questionable behavior.

Your chain is missing a lot of links

 

[Hoid]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

A justified battlefield killing, not an assassination.

racist believes the world is a battlefield.

 

[DaSleeper]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

racist believes the world is a battlefield.

What happened to white Natty?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

That's right, Chief.
Did you just discover the search engine, or did the reservation finally pay off its internet tab?

Very clever, Girth.

Adios.

 

[NZDoug]

Re: Ukraine Flight 752

Soleimani was not assassinated.

He was murdered.

 

[Cliffy]

Esper Says He Didn’t See Specific Evidence Iran Planned to Attack 4 Embassies


President Trump had claimed that a planned attack on four American embassies was a justification for the strike on an Iranian general.


WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said on Sunday that he never saw any specific piece of evidence that Iran was planning an attack on four American embassies, as President Trump had claimed last week as a justification for the strike on an Iranian general that sent the United States and Iran to the brink of war.
“I didn’t see one with regard to four embassies,” Mr. Esper said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” But he added: “I share the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”
The muddled message on Sunday by Mr. Esper and other administration officials only added to the public debate over the Jan. 3 strike that killed Iran’s most important general, Qassim Suleimani, and whether there was appropriate justification for the killing. The administration has offered shifting rationales for the strike, first indicating that it was a response to an “imminent” threat and then backing away from that idea, before sporadically reclaiming it.
As critics, including some Republicans, in Congress expressed dismay, administration officials have in recent days often avoided offering specifics about what prompted the airstrike. But Mr. Trump said on Friday that part of the reason was that Iran was planning attacks on four American embassies.


More: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/us/politics/esper-iran-trump-embassies.html

So, no real justification for the assassination. It was a distraction from impeachment, no matter what the Trumpkins say.

 

[Walter]

Esper Says He Didn’t See Specific Evidence Iran Planned to Attack 4 Embassies


President Trump had claimed that a planned attack on four American embassies was a justification for the strike on an Iranian general.


WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said on Sunday that he never saw any specific piece of evidence that Iran was planning an attack on four American embassies, as President Trump had claimed last week as a justification for the strike on an Iranian general that sent the United States and Iran to the brink of war.
“I didn’t see one with regard to four embassies,” Mr. Esper said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” But he added: “I share the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”
The muddled message on Sunday by Mr. Esper and other administration officials only added to the public debate over the Jan. 3 strike that killed Iran’s most important general, Qassim Suleimani, and whether there was appropriate justification for the killing. The administration has offered shifting rationales for the strike, first indicating that it was a response to an “imminent” threat and then backing away from that idea, before sporadically reclaiming it.
As critics, including some Republicans, in Congress expressed dismay, administration officials have in recent days often avoided offering specifics about what prompted the airstrike. But Mr. Trump said on Friday that part of the reason was that Iran was planning attacks on four American embassies.


More: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/us/politics/esper-iran-trump-embassies.html

So, no real justification for the assassination. It was a distraction from impeachment, no matter what the Trumpkins say.

Prog shit.