U.S. summer a global warming preview, scientists say

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U.S. summer a global warming preview, scientists say

If you want a glimpse of some of the worst of global warming, scientists suggest taking a look at U.S. weather in recent weeks.

Horrendous wildfires. Oppressive heat waves. Devastating droughts. Flooding from giant deluges. And a powerful freak wind storm called a derecho.

These are the kinds of extremes climate scientists have predicted will come with climate change, although it's far too early to say that is the cause. Nor will they say global warming is the reason 3,215 daily high temperature records were set in the month of June.

Scientifically linking individual weather events to climate change takes intensive study, complicated mathematics, computer models and lots of time. Sometimes it isn't caused by global warming. Weather is always variable; freak things happen. And this weather has been local. Europe, Asia and Africa aren't having similar disasters now, although they've had their own extreme events in recent years.

But since at least 1988, climate scientists have warned that climate change would bring, in general, increased heat waves, more droughts, more sudden downpours, more widespread wildfires and worsening storms. In the United States, those extremes are happening here and now.

So far this year, more than 850,000 hectares have burned in wildfires, more than 113 million people in the U.S. were in areas under extreme heat advisories last Friday, two-thirds of the country is experiencing drought, and earlier in June, deluges flooded Minnesota and Florida.

"This is what global warming looks like at the regional or personal level," said Jonathan Overpeck, professor of geosciences and atmospheric sciences at the University of Arizona. "The extra heat increases the odds of worse heat waves, droughts, storms and wildfire. This is certainly what I and many other climate scientists have been warning about."

Kevin Trenberth, head of climate analysis at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in fire-charred Colorado, said these are the very record-breaking conditions he has said would happen, but many people wouldn't listen. So it's I told-you-so time, he said.

As recently as March, a special report on extreme events and disasters by the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warned of "unprecedented extreme weather and climate events." Its lead author, Chris Field of the Carnegie Institution and Stanford University, said Monday, "It's really dramatic how many of the patterns that we've talked about as the expression of the extremes are hitting the U.S. right now."

"What we're seeing really is a window into what global warming really looks like," said Princeton University geosciences and international affairs professor Michael Oppenheimer. "It looks like heat. It looks like fires. It looks like this kind of environmental disasters."

Weather-related deaths

Oppenheimer said that on Thursday, before the U.S. East Coast was hit with temperatures above 38 degrees Celsius and before a derecho — an unusually strong, long-lived and large straight-line wind storm — blew through Chicago to Washington. The storm and its aftermath killed more than 20 people and left millions without electricity. Experts say it had energy readings five times that of normal thunderstorms.

Fuelled by the record high heat, this was one of the most powerful of this type of storm in the region in recent history, said research meteorologist Harold Brooks of the National Severe Storm Laboratory in Norman, Oklahoma. Scientists expect "non-tornadic wind events" like this one and other thunderstorms to increase with climate change because of the heat and instability, he said.

Such patterns haven't happened only in the past week or two. The spring and winter in the U.S. were the warmest on record and among the least snowy, setting the stage for the weather extremes to come, scientists say.

Since Jan. 1, the United States has set more than 40,000 hot temperature records, but fewer than 6,000 cold temperature records, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Through most of last century, the U.S. used to set cold and hot records evenly, but in the first decade of this century America set two hot records for every cold one, said Jerry Meehl, a climate extreme expert at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. This year the ratio is about 7 hot to 1 cold. Some computer models say that ratio will hit 20-to-1 by midcentury, Meehl said.

"In the future you would expect larger, longer more intense heat waves and we've seen that in the last few summers," NOAA Climate Monitoring chief Derek Arndt said.

The 38-degree C heat, drought, early snowpack melt and beetles waking from hibernation early to strip trees all combined to set the stage for the current unusual spread of wildfires in the West, said University of Montana ecosystems professor Steven Running, an expert on wildfires.

While at least 15 climate scientists told The Associated Press that this long hot U.S. summer is consistent with what is to be expected in global warming, history is full of such extremes, said John Christy at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He's a global warming skeptic who says, "The guilty party in my view is Mother Nature."

But the vast majority of mainstream climate scientists, such as Meehl, disagree: "This is what global warming is like, and we'll see more of this as we go into the future."

U.S. summer a global warming preview, scientists say - World - CBC News
 

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WHAT!

Yes it gets hot in summer.

Funny how when we have brutally cold winters there is not a peep.
 

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Why wasn't anything done at the Copenhagen Global Warming Conference in December 2009? Because China, India, South Africa, and Brazil killed the idea of any international action. That's not going to change no matter what.

Global warming may be real, but the non-western world isn't going to allow anything to be done about it. The west is simply going to have to accept that fact.
 

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I'm just worried about the possible huge influx of peeps to the wet coast since we have had record cool spring summers for the past couple years. The UK's wettest June on record also.
Say, whose Ox is getting "Gored" here?
Perhaps there IS an upside to expensive ferries;-)
 

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I always watch the weather channel at some point in the day and to no surprise
they show a minimum and maximum temperature for the day.
Why is is that decades ago there were periods of hot weather that exceed what
we are having. Now I agree right not there is a history making heat wave in one
area while floods occupy another, such is the ever changing weather patterns.
Here in the Okanagan we have much cooler weather and wet so far but hey that
will change any day now, so does that mean Global Warming is the culprit? Or
more likely did the wind change and a high pressure air mass settle in.
 

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Europe is having a cool wet summer.. after one of the most frigid winters in decades. It goes to show you how selective the 'evidence' for AGW is.

They've stopped referencing receding glaciers and polar ice.. because its become obvious none of that is happening. They've got their slavish lap dogs in the press driving hysterical reporting on a couple of hot weeks in the summer. and will completely ignore reports that don't mesh with that thesis.

I can attest that the Pacific Northwest has had a cool spring, after a cold winter. They've even stopped reporting on cyclical Pacific Ocean climatological events like La nina or El nino.. hoping to ramp up fear mongering that all HOT weather in based on carbon emissions.

It's really pathetic to see 'scientists' with so little integrity and respect for the scientific method and objective analysis. They are political hacks and nothing else.
 
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Why wasn't anything done at the Copenhagen Global Warming Conference in December 2009? Because China, India, South Africa, and Brazil killed the idea of any international action. That's not going to change no matter what.

And it is not just that. The people that want to raid the coffers of Developed Nations KNOW China, India, etc. will NEVER commit to opening up their wallets and submitting to regulations. So the GW Leaders give them "Developing Nation" status to save face. Then go after Western Nations.

Europe is having a cool wet summer.. after one of the most frigid winters in decades. I goes to show you how selective the 'evidence' for AGW is.

CS... please ignore Europe's cool wet summer and focus on the US's hot summer.
 

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eaglesmack you are right about this, not only are they giving them the developing
nation status they also send all the old TV and broken computers over there for
salvage.
If they were serious about saving the environment, they would attach trade deals
and factory development for green technology in order to sell those products into
the developed world. Sort of like the food safety system we have, but of course we
know that doesn't work either.
If you want to create a cleaner world one would think you must develop the conditions
in the developing nations as we go. Nope the whole movement is based on fund raising
to tell us how bad it is. Cleaning it up would mean no more money would be needed to
advance the agenda.
 

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The take away message from that article:
Through most of last century, the U.S. used to set cold and hot records evenly, but in the first decade of this century America set two hot records for every cold one, said Jerry Meehl, a climate extreme expert at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. This year the ratio is about 7 hot to 1 cold. Some computer models say that ratio will hit 20-to-1 by midcentury, Meehl said.
Still gets cold...the distribution of extreme weather is being skewed and anyone who denies to which side can't actually be looking at data.
 

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The trouble with considering China, India, and Brazil as developed nations, is that they aren't. China and India, with large populations have huge wealth, but they use far less fossil fuels per capita than any of the countries of the G 8 for example. It would be foresighted of them to recognize where there continuing esclating demand is taking their emmissions in terms of impact on the climate. On the other hand they are somewhat justified in saying that we did not have that foresight and our current usage indicates that we aren't serious about climate change.

They also have an alibi when it comes to using more fossil fuels because the level of "development" we made by burning so much per person is far and above what standards they have achieved. I think that a lot more countries and people around the world would accept the need to consume less if they didn't have the USA and Canada providing such a bad example.
 

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China has a booming economy, the second biggest in the world and will most assuredly be the first in the near future. They have a huge military and they even have a manned space program.

They are a developed nation.

They get a pass with regards to proposed GW regulations and proposed monetary fleecings because the GW Leaders know for a fact that China will never... NEVER submit to outside pressures. They are not a soft target. They cannot be shamed or scared by the GW activists.
 

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China has a booming economy, the second biggest in the world and will most assuredly be the first in the near future. They have a huge military and they even have a manned space program.

They are a developed nation.

They get a pass with regards to proposed GW regulations and proposed monetary fleecings because the GW Leaders know for a fact that China will never... NEVER submit to outside pressures. They are not a soft target. They cannot be shamed or scared by the GW activists.

I think that a nation like China with maybe 1/10th the GDP /person of the USA could be said to be less developed in comparison. China has been playing catchup, on a lot of different parameters, with the world ever since the 1940s and still find it necessary to have forced labour camps. There is a huge amount of money now in that country because it has sold its citizens and its resources short in an effort to get caught up. They aren't there yet.

And China accepted outside pressure to change even before the USSR did. It has gone through more change more rapidly than most other countries. The other thing to remember is that climate change isn't an outside pressure. It is a constant and challenging problem for them too. Look at the risk for China if they have crop failure, they are buying land in Africa as insurance. A sign that they are playing with their richer status. They are putting a lot into alternative energies, but are also willing to go on buying the worlds fossil fuels as cheaply as they can get them just like us.
 

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I think that a nation like China with maybe 1/10th the GDP /person of the USA could be said to be less developed in comparison. China has been playing catchup, on a lot of different parameters, with the world ever since the 1940s and still find it necessary to have forced labour camps. There is a huge amount of money now in that country because it has sold its citizens and its resources short in an effort to get caught up. They aren't there yet.

The government's treatment of its people or the buying power of its average citizen has absolutely no bearing on the power and capabilities of a nation... in this case China.

China is a massive and powerful nation. Regardless of what they average Chinese citizen can buy at a market... his government has practically bought the United States.

And China accepted outside pressure to change even before the USSR did. It has gone through more change more rapidly than most other countries. The other thing to remember is that climate change isn't an outside pressure. It is a constant and challenging problem for them too. Look at the risk for China if they have crop failure, they are buying land in Africa as insurance. A sign that they are playing with their richer status. They are putting a lot into alternative energies, but are also willing to go on buying the worlds fossil fuels as cheaply as they can get them just like us.

China bows down to nobody. Don't be fooled amigo.

You're just giving out the typical excuses set forth by the GW crowd that are supposed to explain away the reasons such a powerful nation like China is giving a "Developing Nation" status. They just put 3 Men in orbit. The US doesn't even have the capability to do that now since we've retired our Shuttle Fleet.

That is why even our liberal President won't give in on this.
 

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The take away message from that article:
Through most of last century, the U.S. used to set cold and hot records evenly, but in the first decade of this century America set two hot records for every cold one, said Jerry Meehl, a climate extreme expert at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. This year the ratio is about 7 hot to 1 cold. Some computer models say that ratio will hit 20-to-1 by midcentury, Meehl said.
Still gets cold...the distribution of extreme weather is being skewed and anyone who denies to which side can't actually be looking at data.

Yup.

Clearly you are not planting enough trees Tonnington, or this whole problem would just float away... or something..
 

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WHAT!

Yes it gets hot in summer.

Funny how when we have brutally cold winters there is not a peep.
.... except from the dingbats who moan about it being so cold in their locality but forget that the half of the planet on the other side of the equator is having hot flashes.

I'm just worried about the possible huge influx of peeps to the wet coast since we have had record cool spring summers for the past couple years. The UK's wettest June on record also.
Say, whose Ox is getting "Gored" here?
Perhaps there IS an upside to expensive ferries;-)
Yeah, BC's wettest June for quite a while. Couldn't have anything to do with the moisture content in the atmosphere and its habit of rising with warm air till it hits cold air.
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/moisture-holding-capacity-air-d_281.html