It is also the worl leader in decommissioning coal plants! If you want ratios, then Alberta enjoys the lead!
U.S. summer a global warming preview, scientists say
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I could but it should not be necessary. It has been revealed in myriad ways that China id decommissioning old coal and steel plants as fast as it is building modern plants. It also has the largest solar installations in the world.
And, it should be born in mind that China, under Kyoto, had no obligation to take major steps to reduce emissions until Kyoto 2
The only sorces for what you are saying are a few denial blogs and that element of the media that specialises in publishing mischief.
And, it should be born in mind that China, under Kyoto, had no obligation to take major steps to reduce emissions until Kyoto 2
The only sorces for what you are saying are a few denial blogs and that element of the media that specialises in publishing mischief.
Umm.... They are still coal-fired plants, are they not?
Kyoto 2 came and went and to my knowledge, they didn't sign-up on that one either.
So, no answer to my prior request for proof then.
Gotcha
Seeing how you refuse to provide any form of proof (other than greenie blog posts), why would I go to the trouble. In the end, you just can't handle the notion that the failed UN/IPCC policies were nonsense from the get-go and that the movement in which you have placed an unquestioning blind faith is slowly slipping away into the history books as a fraud and non-event.
I understand why you elect not to provide any proof; Fact is, you can't, there isn't any.
Running away? The UN/IPCC does not have policies. It provides information for policymakers. The only failure is the failure of those politicians you support to answer the most urgent need of their constituents.
I have no intention of providing further proof of that information that comes from mainstream media and from the conferences that have been eld and not from "greenie blogs," whatever they are.
The reality is that you are posting nothing but misinformation peddled by a few frauds.
Btw! The recent surveys show that the numbers of people who are convinced of the warming and of its anthropogenic nature have increased. I could give you a link to that, too, but it would be idiotic of anyone to demand it and risk looking foolish for their denial of that fact.
Yes... You are
Correct. They also have no facts
"Further" proof, like the blog posts you rely upon? You have provided no proof at any time.
I believe that CDNBear made that abundantly clear on another thread.
Take that back!
I have never provided any proof from the IPCC... Ever!
Ohhhh, a survey, eh?... And of people that are "convinced" that the warming is anthropogenic in nature.
How scientific of you
One of the aspects that worries me the most about the climate changes we are seeing is the loss of ice and snow pack in the Mountains. There is a report out from the US Geological Service done in partnership with the the Universities of Arizona, Washington, Wyoming, and Western Ontario that points to some of the problems coming down the river.
USGS Study Finds Recent Snowpack Declines in the Rocky Mountains Unusual Compared to Past Few Centuries
"Runoff from winter snowpack – layers of snow that accumulate at high altitude – accounts for 60 to 80 percent of the annual water supply for more than 70 million people living in the western United States.
“This scientific work is critical to understanding how climate change is affecting western water supplies,” Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said. "
"This study supports research by others estimating that between 30-60 percent of the declines in the late 20th century are likely due to greenhouse gas emissions."
And the thing is it isn't just the water supply for these people. This is the water that is part of the irrigation for much of the food eaten in North America. We are seeing the major cities getting concerned about how they are going to take water away from the food producers that feed them. Similar problems are happening in and around the Alps and the Himalayas. Food is going to become harder to get/more expensive. Hydro-electricity isn't going to be able to rely on the melt in all of those regions like it does now. This is going to be a problem.
USGS Study Finds Recent Snowpack Declines in the Rocky Mountains Unusual Compared to Past Few Centuries
"Runoff from winter snowpack – layers of snow that accumulate at high altitude – accounts for 60 to 80 percent of the annual water supply for more than 70 million people living in the western United States.
“This scientific work is critical to understanding how climate change is affecting western water supplies,” Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said. "
"This study supports research by others estimating that between 30-60 percent of the declines in the late 20th century are likely due to greenhouse gas emissions."
And the thing is it isn't just the water supply for these people. This is the water that is part of the irrigation for much of the food eaten in North America. We are seeing the major cities getting concerned about how they are going to take water away from the food producers that feed them. Similar problems are happening in and around the Alps and the Himalayas. Food is going to become harder to get/more expensive. Hydro-electricity isn't going to be able to rely on the melt in all of those regions like it does now. This is going to be a problem.
Well exactly, that is what we have been doing isn't it. Our cities and farming capacities have grown while using that increased snow and ice melt. and the problem comes about because the use has gone past the recharge of snowfall in the mountains
Here's a mental image for you, I saw recently a calculation of ice loss since Anthrpogenic Climate Change started. 8000 cubic kilometres. Enough ice to fill a corridor from New York to Las Angeles, two km wide and one kilometre high.
That snowpack loss is already affecting more than one billion people in central Asia. Within the next generation it could well lead to wars involving the three nuclear powers of India, China and Pakistan. Close to two billion people will, by then, be in desperate straits.
Yes if you drive along any of the rivers and streqms starting from high in the mountains you would notice every little field where there is level ground with the irrigation sprinklers going during the growing season, and water for them vbeing pumped up out of those streams.
As I recall the date used for the calculation of the 8000 cubic kilometre ice corridor that has disappeared because of climate change was about 1885.
You know that claim turned out to be a load of crap right?
Really? I farm and I have a river running through my property. I don't have irrigation and NONE of my neighbours run pivots either.
You know that your response is a "load of crap, right?"
Already there is a thirty percent reduction in the flows of the major rivers feeding those countries. Already there are tensions developin over the efforts of one or the other, or the possibility of such efforts, to gain disproportionate shares of the flows.
Really? Do you live by a river that comes out of glacial melt in the mountains? I just ask beause in western North America most such farms use irrigation. Perhaps you are lucky, so far, in being able to rely on precipitation. As shown in the USGS study I mentioned a couplr of posts back those rain and snow patterns are changing. It would probably be a good idea to try and get some water rights for your stream.
IPCC's Himalayan Glacier 'Mistake' No Accident - US News and World Report
By Janet Raloff, for Science News' Science & the Public Blog
A London newspaper reported yesterday that the unsubstantiated Himalayan-glacier melt figures contained in a supposedly authoritative 2007 report on climate warming were used intentionally, despite the report’s lead author knowing there were no data to back them up.
