U.S.A. should help Greece fight fires

thomaska

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It wouldn't matter if we helped out anyways. We could save countless lives and hectares of land and the haters would complain because we parked the firetrucks on some endangered flowers, or flooded some non-christian's house with the water...
 

paokara

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you cant think like that...that kind of attitude is exactly what get ppl ticked off about americans...im against that war...i was okay when u guys when thier kicked soem but caught some guys...the whoel sadam thing and osama..thats cool...but why are u guys still there..and dont feed me some keeping the peace...weapons of mass destruction..iono what else bull****. Greece doesnt go kill ppl greece goes to save ppl and defend where in modern history do u read about greece invading....WW2 we fought in our land...we fough off turks and we fight in cypruss...greece is army is for defence of the balkans and the mediteranean sea..the most stratigic point in the world...why should greece have mandatory conscription and send its boys off to die...i understand it would have been to our interest to maybe stregthen our relationship with US...but its not how greece uses its army...

greeks to this day still dogfight with turks of our waters,,,and the turks still help

 

EagleSmack

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yeah i understand...im not exactly anti-us...i have no problem with americans...its jsut that they always make thingsd about them...i hated comments i heared about greece not helping US when katrina happened so US should help Greece..so im acting out...thats what pissed me off..i was refered to the page where money was sent to greece for help..which was new news to me..and as a greek i am thankfull...also before anybody makes stupid comments about how greece handled it..remeber that its the bigest forest fires in 50...and use logic...ppl in general arnt stupid...american arnt stupid, canadiens arent stupid...greeks arnt stupid armenian, chineses..ect....the world isnt stupid..greece is trying to handle it as well as they can...i blame the government...alot of heros are being born with this tradegy...and i dotn only mean greek

i am sryy if i offeneded anybody..i was jsut trying to protect my nationality...and u were protecting urs...all cool

Hey and guess what Paokara, what P's us off is people like you flying off the handle and bashing the US before doing your home work to see if the US is actually helping. You were so quick to condemn the US for not helping above all other nations. And you are DARN right we are going to bring up our National Disasters like Katrina, tornados, forest fires. Do you know why? Because when they happen here in the USA we are on our own. Nobody from other countries lend a hand. In fact sometimes we hear...

"Serves you right! USA S--Ks!"

So keep your apology.
 

paokara

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Greeks military is for defence and saving lives...we never attacked a nation...we fough in our country in ww2 to defend...also agaisnt the turks when they occupied greece for more that 500 years...and i cypress.. so that we can try and win it back after turkish occupation...we dotn have mandatory conscription to send our boys of to die

we teach the world peace

we ask to come help not to kill ppl

and u say u dotn coem cuz we did not kill for u

shame on you

 

paokara

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Bro i calmed down before...but u came with ur stupid statement...and started me up again... isnt new orleans still flooded??
 

lone wolf

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....Because when they happen here in the USA we are on our own. Nobody from other countries lend a hand. In fact sometimes we hear...

"Serves you right! USA S--Ks!"

So keep your apology.

8O Are you telling me the twenty hours I spent packing blankets, clothing and canned goods, then delivering them to a central collection point in North Bay for shipment to Louisiana were wasted effort and a lot of us in Northern Ontario are nobodies?

Wolf
 

EagleSmack

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Bro i calmed down before...but u came with ur stupid statement...and started me up again... isnt new orleans still flooded??

I could care less if you calmed down or not. The only ignorance came from you and your fire from the hip attitude. Why don't you pack your trash and head back to Greece to help put out the fires instead of pounding on the keyboard. Your mother country is in flames and all you could think about doing is blaming the USA.

Yes the whole city is under water. :roll:
 

triedit

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paokara

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Im not blammign the US for the fires u moron...and im doign what i can to help from canada...
 

unclepercy

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And might I add: What has Greece done for the USA lately? Huh? Stumped? I thought so. :angry3:

Uncle Percy


paokara

You're Greek? Good, then you very well know that the Greek forest firefighters are ill equipped to handle anything of much lesser magnitude, let alone something like this. You don't put out fires using the local houses' water hose, and you certainly will not get anything accomplished wearing shorts, sandals and chubby firefighters. That's the sad reality of Greece's firefighting capabilities.

The US sent 100,000 US dollars in AID, immediately, so Greece can upgrade their firefighting infrastructer (of course we both know where the money will end up) and is open to send anything else Greece asks for.

WTF else do you want? The EU is just as rich as the US. Stuff it.
 

unclepercy

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And stick that apology where the sun don't shine, Bubba.

Uncle Percy

Hey and guess what Paokara, what P's us off is people like you flying off the handle and bashing the US before doing your home work to see if the US is actually helping. You were so quick to condemn the US for not helping above all other nations. And you are DARN right we are going to bring up our National Disasters like Katrina, tornados, forest fires. Do you know why? Because when they happen here in the USA we are on our own. Nobody from other countries lend a hand. In fact sometimes we hear...

"Serves you right! USA S--Ks!"

So keep your apology.
 
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I have news for you people...you will soon see that indeed it was the americans that caused these Geek fires.
Geeks are trying to run the evengelcals.
Once bush stated that he was going in the Geeks caught fire by applying them selves with lighter fluid to ward off the tin foil hat crowd.

It's all documented ....


it will take 3 weeks for the geeks to surrender.
 

lone wolf

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Very good! Do you have a point?

Yes I do if you'd care to use the quote in context. In the end, some intervention at the federal level is required to allow Canadian registered airplanes out of the country. Perhaps some federal bureaucrat is going to step back from a latté to expediate the paperwork - or get the planes proper authority to enter the airspaces above several foreign lands.

Wolf
 

Cannuck

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In the end, some intervention at the federal level is required to allow Canadian registered airplanes out of the country.

I don't recall anybody saying otherwise. The point was that the feds can't do much because there is a very limited federal fire service. Without the provinces first offering the equipment, there would have been nothing for the federal government to do. Sorry you missed the point.
 

Zzarchov

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Paokara, you are displaying the worst traits of nationalism.

So far you've claimed Cyprus as your own, against the oppressed minority who lives in about a third of it. Yes the Island was greek at one point, then turkish at another. Neither owns it. Cyprus should be its own country (or better yet two).

As of now its a violation of international law. It belongs to the EU (Despite being Asian, more so than Turkey which is part European) despite it not being allowed by treaty in any organization that does not include both Turkey and Greece (Turkey is not in the EU, Greece is) AND despite being in the EU, they don't give 1/3rd of its citizens EU rights because they are the wrong nationality.

It is not a Greek colony and Greece should be red faced ashamed of treating it like one (not that Turkey is without fault, but two wrongs do not make a right).



Getting back to the fires. The EU is as rich as America AND has less forest fires (California is bigger than Greece, it may not be a country now, but it could be if it seperated and became the bear republic again).

But your posts acts like America should fly across the ocean, leave its own citizens at risk to bail out Greece with its own cash that Greece doesn't pool into.

But the EU, who is next door, doesn't have forest fires, has as much money AND gets that money from Greece.. is not required to send help.




Just because the USA is rich doesn't mean its their job to help you. If your house burns down, do you go to the rich part of town and demand they put you up for the night?
 

Unforgiven

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Please, if you have time, use your favorite search engine and try searching for information with regards to Greece helps with Hurricane Katrina.
Here is a URL to help get you going on the topic :
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900sid/EVOD-6FXGUK?OpenDocument
Well regardless of the information found at the above URL, which states that Greece has offered aid to the U.S. in the past, the U.S.A. should just help because it is a very good thing to do.

I see where it is now.

I didn't mean to infer that Greece never offered or send aid to the US for the victims of Katrina. I was pointing out in obviously obscure terms, how the US government didn't show up for Katrina. Still there is a disaster there with still a lack of help from the government to get the place cleaned up and people back into their homes. Maybe it wouldn't take so long if the Government cared about the people there and the military wasn't busy caring about the people in Iraq.
 

Curiosity

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I wish people would understand the separation of the State and the Federal governments in the U.S.

Lone Wolf published the efforts it takes to get Canadian federal equipment /funding to a scene - can't it be understood therefore the Federal government in the U.S. doesn't just burst in taking over what is ultimately the state's right to request what is needed - in this case the Mayor of New Orleans and specifically the Governor of the State of Louisiana could not get their act together in order to lay the ground rules for the federal assistance. Talk about low level nitpicking.

Even now that idiot state is rebuilding a new levee system which will ultimately fail in the future....perhaps it is planned obsolescence so the people's living conditions will be continually upgraded if they aren't killed. But it looks pretty on the news - all those lovely new homes which will ultimately be flooded yet again.