Trump attacks Canada's dairy supply
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Au contraire. No one is worried, were just giggling as he exposes his Art of Deal expertise to MADFGA.............
Make American Dairy Farms Great Again
So his problem with the “very unfair things” supposedly going on in Canadian agriculture’s supply-managed dairy, poultry and egg sectors may be that they offer a good, very good example to U.S. farmers that the agri-food lobby and its friends in Washington would very much like to eliminate forever.
On the other hand, speaking of desperate straits, with the end of his shambolic first 100 days in office fast approaching, President Trump may want desperately to look as if he’s doing something for the schmucks who voted for him when, despite his big talk, he hasn’t really done anything much at all since he was sworn in on Jan. 20.
Because when farmers are left to themselves, they can usually be counted on to produce themselves into poverty, it’s good to have something to blame for the problems you’ve created. As Wisconsin farmer Chris Holman observed in a recent blog post, “Sorry Canada, this time that thing is you!”
“Scapegoating Canadian trade policy is a brilliant move as morally flexible politics goes, but as is often the case with finger-pointing, anyone doing it in a situation like this looks suspiciously like a guilty four-year-old,” Mr. Holman wrote.
Since the U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates about 163 million litres of heavily subsidized American milk were dumped in fields, manure ponds or otherwise went down the drain in the first eight months of 2016, U.S. farmers in financial trouble would dearly love the opportunity to dump it in Canada instead. Supply-managed Canadian dairy farmers, by the way, receive zero subsidies from our taxes.
And lots of American dairy farms are in big financial trouble. According to the USDA, and state agencies quoted by Mr. Holman, about 500 Wisconsin farms close every year as the dairy industry there grows ever more concentrated. And, believe me, this has nothing to do with Canada.
Of course, bad neoliberal economic policies have the same kind of friends on both sides of the Medicine Line, which may be why the Canadian supply management system, which supplies high-quality product to Canadians at a fair price while ensuring dairy, poultry and egg farmers earn a living wage, has been under attack by the same types in Canada.
This explains why the Usual Suspects, like the neoliberal propagandists in Thinktankistan and their publicity auxiliary in Canadian media where Postmedia and the Globe and Mail compete to outdo one another with hysterical denunciations of supply management, are positively gleeful at President Trump’s bombastic attacks on Canada.
As National Farmers Union President Jan Slomp cheekily advised Mr. Trump a few days ago, if he really wants to make American dairy farms great again, he should adopt supply management.
Alberta PoliticsMake American Dairy Farms Great Again! Adopt supply management - Alberta Politics
Something is going right down there. I just bought an item in the US last week for $458 US and paid $656 CDN. The exchange was 1.33. I see that it has jumped a bit. There's more to the mix than just flour (or milk).
Scotiabank X rates
United States Dollar (USD) Buy - 1.396000. Sell - 1.32500
Scotiabank X rates
United States Dollar (USD) Buy - 1.396000. Sell - 1.32500
It's not just the liberal crowd. Fiscal conservatives like me also see him as an epic failure. If your head was on the outside of your rectum, you would probably see that as well.
If I thought that is was remotely about milk or lumber I would be concerned.
This is all about Trump's image and his desparate need to be seen scoring points. What easier way than to "Blame Canada"?
Bush the Younger played that game, too.
I'm not a lawyer, but it is not as easy as saying, we're re-writing the agreement. There is a process. We'll just have to see how things progress.
Trump might be worried about his image in the US, but it means nothing here. He is going to do what his business trng has taught him. The trouble is, he is running into problems adjusting to the Washington bureaucrats and the world of politics. I wouldn't be concerned about being blamed for anything. The spin on that is simple. US negotiators screwed up the first time or you wouldn't be complaining.
It's business. No deal is ever truly finished. Everyone is always trying to get ahead of the competition or come out on top financially.
Like politics, it is just another game.
Trump might be worried about his image in the US, but it means nothing here. He is going to do what his business trng has taught him. The trouble is, he is running into problems adjusting to the Washington bureaucrats and the world of politics. I wouldn't be concerned about being blamed for anything. The spin on that is simple. US negotiators screwed up the first time or you wouldn't be complaining.
It's business. No deal is ever truly finished. Everyone is always trying to get ahead of the competition or come out on top financially.
Like politics, it is just another game.
Hey, Murphy, I wouldn't give that ignorant S.O.B. the time of day, not to mention the sweat off my genitals.
You have to first elect a woman and then some sort of transgender or other.
All of them will be powerless idiots of course. And then a brick, or a doormatt or a coffee percolator., maybe a hamster.
You guys should stop upsetting yourselves just because I make you look stupid all the time.Truth be told, you're realing doing it to yourselves.
Can't say I'm surprised.
OK, a one-legged female Latina mime.You have to first elect a woman and then some sort of transgender or other.
You people are so picky!
Canadians dump milk because of quotas and Americans dump milk because of over supply. I suggest that the Canadian Dairy people get in touch with Mexico......
America’s $1.2 Billion Mexico Milk Trade Is Now at Risk
Even as the Trump administration jousts with Canada over its latest trade dispute, it might want to keep a closer eye on Mexico, America’s No. 1 one dairy importer. Its southern neighbor, which figures prominently in the U.S. government’s crime and immigration rhetoric, spent almost twice as much money as Canada did on U.S. dairy in 2016. That’s $1.2 billion.
Now it appears Mexico is looking for new trading partners.
In the first two months of 2017, Mexico increased its imports of skim milk powder from the EU by 122 percent , according to the EU Milk Market Observatory (as first reported by the Irish Farm Journal). Mexico has also been exploring talks with dairy powerhouse New Zealand. That country’s trade minister visited Mexico City in February to discuss a potential trade deal.
Why the moves by Mexico? In a word: Trump.
“Mexico is looking to make sure they have market alternatives because of the rhetoric from the U.S. on renegotiating Nafta,” said D. Scott Brown, who teaches agricultural and applied economics at the University of Missouri, referring to the North American Free Trade Agreement. “This may be an opportunity to find other places for skim milk powder.” Rabobank also reported that tensions between the U.S. and Mexico are the reason for Mexico’s changing dairy purchasing strategy.
While most Americans probably aren’t looking for skim milk powder at the supermarket, it’s a major export product (along with nonfat dry milk) because it has low moisture content and a longer shelf life. These products are “the barometer for what’s going on in world markets,” said Ben Laine, an economist at CoBank Acb.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-1-2-billion-mexico-milk-trade-is-now-at-risk
U.S. farm lobby turns up heat on Trump team as NAFTA talks near
With talks to renegotiate the NAFTA trade pact just weeks away, U.S. farm groups and lawmakers from rural states are intensifying lobbying of President Donald Trump's administration with one central message: leave farming out of it.
Trump blames the North American Free Trade Agreement - the "worst trade deal ever" in his words - for millions of lost manufacturing jobs and promises to tilt it in America's favor.
But for U.S. farmers the 23-year old pact secures access to stable, lucrative markets in Mexico and Canada that now account for over a quarter of U.S. farm exports.
Now they fear this access could become a bargaining chip in efforts to get a better deal for U.S. manufacturers.
"Perhaps some other sectors of our economy are given better terms and in exchange for that agriculture tariffs would be reintroduced," said Joe Schuele, a spokesman for the U.S. Meat Export Federation in Denver, Colorado.
Another concern is that the mere uncertainty of open-ended trade talks could drive Mexico to alternative suppliers of grains, dairy products, beef and pork.
Among the groups involved are the American Soybean Association, Corn Refiners Association and National Grain and Feed Association and firms such as Land O'Lakes, Inc., Tyson Foods, Inc., Louis Dreyfus Company North America, Archer Daniels Midland Co. and others.
For example, U.S. cotton producers, marketers and shippers in mid-June warned the Trump administration that any weakening of NAFTA "would threaten the health of the U.S. industry and the jobs of the 125,000 Americans employed by it."
U.S. farm lobby turns up heat on Trump team as NAFTA talks near | Reuters
With talks to renegotiate the NAFTA trade pact just weeks away, U.S. farm groups and lawmakers from rural states are intensifying lobbying of President Donald Trump's administration with one central message: leave farming out of it.
Trump blames the North American Free Trade Agreement - the "worst trade deal ever" in his words - for millions of lost manufacturing jobs and promises to tilt it in America's favor.
But for U.S. farmers the 23-year old pact secures access to stable, lucrative markets in Mexico and Canada that now account for over a quarter of U.S. farm exports.
Now they fear this access could become a bargaining chip in efforts to get a better deal for U.S. manufacturers.
"Perhaps some other sectors of our economy are given better terms and in exchange for that agriculture tariffs would be reintroduced," said Joe Schuele, a spokesman for the U.S. Meat Export Federation in Denver, Colorado.
Another concern is that the mere uncertainty of open-ended trade talks could drive Mexico to alternative suppliers of grains, dairy products, beef and pork.
Among the groups involved are the American Soybean Association, Corn Refiners Association and National Grain and Feed Association and firms such as Land O'Lakes, Inc., Tyson Foods, Inc., Louis Dreyfus Company North America, Archer Daniels Midland Co. and others.
For example, U.S. cotton producers, marketers and shippers in mid-June warned the Trump administration that any weakening of NAFTA "would threaten the health of the U.S. industry and the jobs of the 125,000 Americans employed by it."
U.S. farm lobby turns up heat on Trump team as NAFTA talks near | Reuters
Delusional to the end. Atta girl.
Ask Trudeau. He's decided Canada needs to contribute to it.