Trudeau allowing illegal refugees...........it's Bull sh*t!

Kathie Bondar

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tay said:
There is no Canadian 'law'perse, on accepting Refugees but there is a legal process which determines if the qualify to stay, or be brought in from outside the country.

They are claiming refugee status as sanctioned by The UN Charter to which Canada is a participant to which binds Canada, regardless of it's the Libs, Cons or NDP in power to legally uphold the International laws.

The 1951 Refugee Convention is the key legal document that forms the basis of our work. Ratified​ by 145 State parties, it defines the term ‘refugee’ and outlines the rights of the displaced, as well as the legal obligations of States to protect them.

The core principle is non-refoulement, which asserts that a refugee should not be returned to a country where they face serious threats to their life or freedom. This is now considered a rule of customary international law.

UNHCR*- The 1951 Refugee Convention


UNHCR serves as the ‘guardian’ of the 1951 Convention and its 1967 Protocol. According to the legislation, States are expected to cooperate with us in ensuring that the rights of refugees are respected and protected.

The Canadian refugee system has two main parts:

  • the Refugee and Humanitarian Resettlement Program, for people seeking protection from outside Canada; and
  • the In-Canada Asylum Program for people making refugee protection claims from within Canada

  • Canada offers refugee protection to some people in Canada who fear persecution or who would be in danger if they had to leave. Some dangers they may face include torture, a risk to their life or a risk of cruel and unusual treatment or punishment. If you feel you could face one of these risks if you go back to your home country or the country where you normally live, you may be able to seek protection in Canada as a refugee.

    Claim refugee protection from inside Canada

    How does Canada's refugee system work?

    How does Canada's refugee system work?
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Is not it just marvelous that most of them arrive without documents (lost at sea), so nobody has to question eligibility. We can just play the good Samaritan and hope they will settle in Ottawa near or on the government house lawn

Corduroy said:
That doesn't make them illegal refugees. Refugee status is a legal definition and so it's basically impossible to be an illegal refugee. Canada and the US have an agreement on refugees stating that refugee claimants can only claim status in the first country they arrive in. In this case, if these people were originally refugees from elsewhere they would be deported to the US. But either way, in order to be refugees from the United States, our government would have to agree they faced real political persecution in the US. Politically, our government might not want to say that.

Entering the country llegally doesn't prevent one from claiming refugee status or having that status granted, but it does make things more difficult.
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Oh Lord! Why am I not laughing?
 
Bar Sinister

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JLM said:
Are you really that thick? Gov't employees are allowing it and they work in his jurisdiction. He's ultimately responsible! :) :)
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Are you really that stupid that you can't understand sarcasm? The OP is poorly worded and the poster is apparently ignorant of the fact that under Canadian law anyone claiming to be a refugee must be granted a hearing.
 
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At the end of the day, we can all blame Trump for this. If he and his people weren't causing such a stir, these people would stay in the glorious USA......


Under the law, asylum seekers who attempt to enter Canada at a Canada/U.S. border crossing must be turned back by CBSA. But if an asylum seeker makes it into Canada, somehow — say, by walking miles through woods — he or she will be arrested by the RCMP, transferred to the CBSA and then released pending an Immigration and Refugee Board Hearing. That’s the law: If you make it in somehow, you will get a hearing, but it you arrive at the border, you will be turned back.

Most successful refugee claims are made from outside of Canada. These ‘resettled refugees’ are generally sponsored by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees or by private charities and churches. Most recently-admitted Syrian refugees came here under this process.

So it’s the law that is the problem, not the enforcement. While an asylum seeker is still in the United States, the RCMP has no jurisdiction. Once an asylum seeker illegally crosses the border, he or she is in Canada and has rights, including the right to a hearing.

Simply being able to make a claim is no guarantee that the claim will be successful, of course. Theoretically, the Third Country Agreement should still apply and the applicant should be returned to the ‘safe’ country. But deporting somebody who’s already in the country is infinitely more complicated than turning back someone who arrives at the border. With President Trump fighting with the courts over the suspension of the processing of refugee claims, you can assume the Immigration and Refugee Board will be reluctant to order deportation if it means leaving migrants in legal limbo.

Sorry, Tony
 
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tay said:
At the end of the day, we can all blame Trump for this. If he and his people weren't causing such a stir, these people would stay in the glorious USA......


Under the law, asylum seekers who attempt to enter Canada at a Canada/U.S. border crossing must be turned back by CBSA. But if an asylum seeker makes it into Canada, somehow — say, by walking miles through woods — he or she will be arrested by the RCMP, transferred to the CBSA and then released pending an Immigration and Refugee Board Hearing. That’s the law: If you make it in somehow, you will get a hearing, but it you arrive at the border, you will be turned back.

Most successful refugee claims are made from outside of Canada. These ‘resettled refugees’ are generally sponsored by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees or by private charities and churches. Most recently-admitted Syrian refugees came here under this process.

So it’s the law that is the problem, not the enforcement. While an asylum seeker is still in the United States, the RCMP has no jurisdiction. Once an asylum seeker illegally crosses the border, he or she is in Canada and has rights, including the right to a hearing.

Simply being able to make a claim is no guarantee that the claim will be successful, of course. Theoretically, the Third Country Agreement should still apply and the applicant should be returned to the ‘safe’ country. But deporting somebody who’s already in the country is infinitely more complicated than turning back someone who arrives at the border. With President Trump fighting with the courts over the suspension of the processing of refugee claims, you can assume the Immigration and Refugee Board will be reluctant to order deportation if it means leaving migrants in legal limbo.

Sorry, Tony
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Like Gopher would Say
Blame Bush

Ooops

Blame Trump

Blame Trump

Blame Trump

Blame Trump
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Bar Sinister said:
Are you really that stupid ? The OP is poorly worded and the poster is apparently ignorant of the fact that under Canadian law anyone claiming to be a refugee must be granted a hearing.
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Maybe, just not quite as stupid as YOU.......................A$$HOLE!

Bar Sinister said:
Are you really that stupid that you can't understand sarcasm? The OP is poorly worded and the poster is apparently ignorant of the fact that under Canadian law anyone claiming to be a refugee must be granted a hearing.
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One thing my grade 3 teacher taught me, was sarcastic A$$holes stand the real possibility of being misunderstood! :)
 
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Twila

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Ya'll are about to get SWAMPED!
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nah, trump's peeps aren't looking for jobs in canada. They're all enjoying the benefits of owning their own corporations and now they have the big Poohbah CEO in your oval office.

We will, however get many many people desperate for a better life for their families who'll start their own business and create all kinds of jobs....like how the USA use to be. IT's going to take Canada a number of years to get as big and inflated as the USA is. We've still got hope that we won't let our gov't turn into another mega corporation run by CEO's for CEO's.
 
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White_Unifier said:
Even Hong Kong can fit more people, so how can you say Canada is swamped?
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Ahhhh... Canada is no Hong Kong. LOLz

Twila said:
nah, trump's peeps aren't looking for jobs in canada. They're all enjoying the benefits of owning their own corporations and now they have the big Poohbah CEO in your oval office.

We will, however get many many people desperate for a better life for their families who'll start their own business and create all kinds of jobs....like how the USA use to be. IT's going to take Canada a number of years to get as big and inflated as the USA is. We've still got hope that we won't let our gov't turn into another mega corporation run by CEO's for CEO's.
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Cute... witty...

But...

Ya'll about to get SWAMPED!

The trickle of refugees fleeing the U.S. to Canada could become a deluge in the spring



http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...n-the-spring/?utm_term=.6865c8df8e33#comments
 
EagleSmack

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Who said anything about Muslims?

I am talking about illegal immigrants.

It seems like many liberal Canadians are closeted bigots and racists.
 
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This Trudeau seems a good man; I think :D

There is a parable used by people here:
"Had it been without any righteous man, the earth would have been broken up [as in Doomsday.]"
 
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