Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

taxslave

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Apparently you don't realize, that 37% is not 50. And if you are paying 50 you should get someone else to do your taxes.






Yes, those terrible nanny states with their low levels of poverty and high level of personal satisfaction.





Ranked: The 10 Happiest Countries In The World In 2018




https://www.forbes.com/sites/duncan...-countries-in-the-world-in-2018/#4114689073e9
Now add in all the other layers of government and their various agencies with taxing rights and working people are paying over 50% of their income in taxes.

I don't know.

Why don't you stop hiding out on the internet and get out there and ask them?\

Oh wait. I forgot.

The white nationalist climate change deniers need the anonymity in order to have the courage to voice their repulsive opinions.

Face to face not yer thang.

Some of us have to work while these worthless bums just hang around and contribute zip zero nada to the economy.
 

spilledthebeer

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It's called low I.Q.




Our idiot Boy Justin is not mentally ill- he is just a HUGE ARROGANT EGO- just like his idols: Papa Pierre, Castro, Stalin and Mao Tse Tung!


Our idiot Boy thinks he knows better than the rest of us!


He thinks he is entitled morally and intellectually to rule!


He is so blinded by ego he thinks that ANY critical comment on any of his polices is motivated by personal hostility!!!


Our idiot Boy is so blinded by his own "genius" that he has not noticed that the number of provinces lined up AGAINST Carbon taxes makes up a majority of the Cdn population!


Our idiot Boy has told Ontari-owe premier Ford "I will see you in court if you drop the LIE-beral carbon tax"!!!!


I say: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA to that threat of legal action!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin will be shoved off the political stage in disgrace LONG BEFORE a pack of Cdn lawyers manage to assemble to discuss carbon crap in front of a judge!!!!


Who here REALLY BELIEVES that Our idiot Boy will do the following in the months BEFORE a FEDERAL ELECTION:


Throw open the Cdn borders to allow hordes of illegals into Canada in spite of public pressure from a MAJORITY of Cdns to CLOSE the border!!!


Anger the Quebec govt by telling them they must accept a pile of illegals - in spite of the fact that Quebec has a known history of pursuing its own specific immigration policy despite what Ottawa wants- as it is doing now by refusing more illegals!!!!


Now that Quebec is fed up with illegals Our idiot Boy is shipping the illegals to Ontari-owe- with Jackass John Tory and his moronic Socialist Silly Hall minions suddenly deciding that being a "Sanctuary City" is more costly and less fun than they thought it would be- and Our idiot Boy has so far studiously IGNORED Tory requests for MORE MONEY!!


How long can Our idiot Boy ignore Jackass John Tory? Especially when the cost of dealing with the illegals is going to start showing up on peoples property taxes in the months before BOTH the municipal election and federal election?



Jackass John Tory has Our idiot Boy over a barrel here- who pays for the illegals WILL become a municipal election issue in October!!


And if the question of who pays for the illegals is not properly answered in October then it WILL become a federal election issue!!!!



Dealing with illegals is also a provincial issue as Ontari-owe premier Doug Ford has told Our idiot Boy that the swarming illegals are a FEDERAL PROBLEM and Ontari-owe will NOT be paying!

Our idiot Boy has responded to Ford- sneering that Ford apparently does not understand where the areas of political responsibility lie!!



And yes- welfare IS a municipal and provincial responsibility- as Ford well knows- but at this point we are back to that pesky federal election thingy- with Our idiot Boy ENRAGING tax payers by his rash action in rounding up swarms of illegals and keeping them as if he was a crazy cat lady with emotional problems!


The majority of Cdns want the illegals deported- this means NO public support for Our idiot Boy on most of his policy issues!!!!


It also means that in a cat fight between Ford and Our idiot Boy- most public support will go to Ford!!!!


AS for the Trudope threat to force a carbon tax on Ontari-owe- the answer to that is HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!


Ontari-owe holds 40 percent of Cdn voters- and the province has just crushed provincial LIE-berals- and their carbon crap and trade tax and their mouldy green energy scam in the recent election! By threatening Ontari-owe- Our idiot Boy shows us just how out of touch and arrogant and clueless he really is!
 

DaSleeper

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spilledthebeer

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Dont look now Sleeper but your fossil fueled bulldozer is MIRED in Bullsh+t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And in the month since LIE-berals bought the KInder Morgan pipeline not a single one of the over 1100 building permits needed to complete the pipeline have been applied for!


In the five weeks since Our idiot Boy Justin bought the pipeline and told us it wa in our national interest to build it- not a single foot of pipe has been laid!


I have said it before- Our idiot Boy does not intend to ever complete that pipeline!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Our idiot Boy has told us that he wants to close down the Cdn oil patch and this one one of the VERY FEW HONEST statements he has ever made to us!


Our idiot Boy will stall and delay the pipeline till after the 2019 election- if he gets re-elected then the pipeline and Cdn oil patch are BOTH DEAD!!!!


If Our idiot Boy loses the next election then the pipeline Will be built!!!!




This is the great disaster waiting for LIE-berals seeking re-election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOBODY is happy with current LIE-beral federal transfer payments to the provinces!


Nobody is happy with how the LIE-berals are handling the invasion of illegals encouraged to come here by insane LIE-berals who could not plan a two car parade without getting a fender bender in the process!


The LIE-beral carbon crap and trade scam is exposed for the GROSS GRAVY GRAB that it is!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral promise to support the middle class has turned into a tax cash grab!!!! With the average middle class family paying out $2 grand MORE- and still counting- than they paid under Harper- this in spite of Our idiot Boy unfreezing civil service union Hog wages and handing out nice pay raises!


Cdns understand that when LIE-berals say "they want to make things better" it means BETTER FOR THEM!!!!


Cdns are tired of LIE-beral insults such as "systemic racist" and Islamophobe even as our news media fills up with reports of shootings by gangs of black thugs!


Cdns listen to endless reports of radical Muslim plots uncovered by cops before they could be put into action - and we watch as the bleeding dying and dead victims of " successful" radical Muslims are tended to and we think that Islamophobia is a good thing and justified!


WE listen to Imams spout their hatred of Jews and gays and speaking with enthusiasm of disenfranchising women using Sharia Law and we wonder what happened to the vaunted LIE-beral determination to stamp out hate speech!



WE are disgusted that LIE-berals would call us racists because we think it is fair to defend our property from prowling drunken or drugged up native thieves!


We watch dumbfounded as LIE-berals hand out $10.5 million dollars to terror poster boy Omar Khadr for reasoans that are so risible that even the majority of rank and file LIE-berals are ashamed!


WE watch in amazement as LIE-berals hand out $37 million dollars to 3 other Muslims who have been inconvenienced by the No Fly listr and by the Yankee hunt for terrorists!


We are stunned as LIE-berals RELEASE SEVEN ACCUSED KILLERS because they do not have the money for a trial!


WE are insulted as LIE-berals release four fraud artists who have STOLEN and total of $44 million dollars from us and LIE-berals tell us they do not have the money needed for such complicated trials!



WE watch in sullen fury as LIE-berals encourage teeming swarms of illegals to come to Canada- with NO LIE-beral PLAN for how to feed, clothe, house, or educate them!!!


WE watch in growing anger as LIE-berals insult provincial and municipal leaders who resent having their budgets blown by LIE-berals who smugly dump their illegals on other levels of govt!


WE are dismayed that LIE-berals would be so rude to Yankees that they would deliberately provoke a trade war with them! WE see that the Yankee position is very simple- they do NOT want to import terrorists and organized crime figures from Canada along with their lumber and dairy products!


WE think LIE-berals are being incredibly FOOLISH for siding with morally and physically bankrupt Europeans against United States in this trade war!



ALL LIE-berals are very quick to scream for Yankee aid whenever they feel threatened and yet LIE-berals are INSULTED whenever they are asked to contribute to their own defense!


WE see very clearly that ALL LIE-beral policy is collapsing in disgrace and blaming Mike Harris or Stephen Harper will NOT save LIE-beral fortunes!
 

Cliffy

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There is virtually zero Asian demand for Alberta bitumen, new Kinder Morgan analysis reveals

Read this essential analysis from Mitchell Anderson in The Tyee, torpedoing the argument that Alberta needs Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion in order to capitalize on pent up Asian demand for its bitumen:
Canadians are often told the Trans Mountain pipeline project is imperative to access Asian markets anxious to buy Alberta bitumen.
True? Like many things in life, the truth is found in hard facts, not overheated rhetoric or wishful thinking. Ten years ago the Trans Mountain pipeline was quietly expanded by 40,000 barrels per day, about 13 per cent. With a decade of shipping data available since that upgrade, has the Asian market since exploded for Alberta bitumen?
Crunching the cargo statistics from the Port of Vancouver a very different picture emerges. In 2016 — the last year that complete data is available — the U.S. accounted for 99.99 per cent of outbound crude oil shipments. Of the 1,185,289 tonnes of crude shipped in bulk tankers that year, 1,185,121 tonnes were delivered to the United States.
In fact, total crude tanker shipments from Vancouver peaked eight years ago in 2010 at 4.3 million tonnes and have since declined 72 per cent.
And what about those hungry Asian markets? Crude exports from Vancouver to China topped out in 2011 at only 28 per cent of total outbound shipments. By 2014, they dropped to six per cent, and in 2016 they were essentially zero. The next largest Asian importers of crude from Vancouver were Singapore, which peaked at four per cent of total shipments in 2009, and India reaching two per cent in 2013.


More: There is virtually zero Asian demand for Alberta bitumen, new Kinder Morgan analysis reveals -The Common Sense CanadianThe Common Sense Canadian
 

JLM

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There is virtually zero Asian demand for Alberta bitumen, new Kinder Morgan analysis reveals

Read this essential analysis from Mitchell Anderson in The Tyee, torpedoing the argument that Alberta needs Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion in order to capitalize on pent up Asian demand for its bitumen:
Canadians are often told the Trans Mountain pipeline project is imperative to access Asian markets anxious to buy Alberta bitumen.
True? Like many things in life, the truth is found in hard facts, not overheated rhetoric or wishful thinking. Ten years ago the Trans Mountain pipeline was quietly expanded by 40,000 barrels per day, about 13 per cent. With a decade of shipping data available since that upgrade, has the Asian market since exploded for Alberta bitumen?
Crunching the cargo statistics from the Port of Vancouver a very different picture emerges. In 2016 — the last year that complete data is available — the U.S. accounted for 99.99 per cent of outbound crude oil shipments. Of the 1,185,289 tonnes of crude shipped in bulk tankers that year, 1,185,121 tonnes were delivered to the United States.
In fact, total crude tanker shipments from Vancouver peaked eight years ago in 2010 at 4.3 million tonnes and have since declined 72 per cent.
And what about those hungry Asian markets? Crude exports from Vancouver to China topped out in 2011 at only 28 per cent of total outbound shipments. By 2014, they dropped to six per cent, and in 2016 they were essentially zero. The next largest Asian importers of crude from Vancouver were Singapore, which peaked at four per cent of total shipments in 2009, and India reaching two per cent in 2013.


More: There is virtually zero Asian demand for Alberta bitumen, new Kinder Morgan analysis reveals -The Common Sense CanadianThe Common Sense Canadian

Just never mind! Get the god damned thing built, we need the jobs and with China building more cars than ever and the U.S. putting tariffs on shit there will be a higher demand than ever and the countries overseas will be quite happy to buy from us as we undercut Trump's tariffs.
 

Hoid

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There is virtually zero Asian demand for Alberta bitumen, new Kinder Morgan analysis reveals

Read this essential analysis from Mitchell Anderson in The Tyee, torpedoing the argument that Alberta needs Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion in order to capitalize on pent up Asian demand for its bitumen:
Canadians are often told the Trans Mountain pipeline project is imperative to access Asian markets anxious to buy Alberta bitumen.
True? Like many things in life, the truth is found in hard facts, not overheated rhetoric or wishful thinking. Ten years ago the Trans Mountain pipeline was quietly expanded by 40,000 barrels per day, about 13 per cent. With a decade of shipping data available since that upgrade, has the Asian market since exploded for Alberta bitumen?
Crunching the cargo statistics from the Port of Vancouver a very different picture emerges. In 2016 — the last year that complete data is available — the U.S. accounted for 99.99 per cent of outbound crude oil shipments. Of the 1,185,289 tonnes of crude shipped in bulk tankers that year, 1,185,121 tonnes were delivered to the United States.
In fact, total crude tanker shipments from Vancouver peaked eight years ago in 2010 at 4.3 million tonnes and have since declined 72 per cent.
And what about those hungry Asian markets? Crude exports from Vancouver to China topped out in 2011 at only 28 per cent of total outbound shipments. By 2014, they dropped to six per cent, and in 2016 they were essentially zero. The next largest Asian importers of crude from Vancouver were Singapore, which peaked at four per cent of total shipments in 2009, and India reaching two per cent in 2013.


More: There is virtually zero Asian demand for Alberta bitumen, new Kinder Morgan analysis reveals -The Common Sense CanadianThe Common Sense Canadian
All well known to industry followers.

The Kinder Morgan expansion was never economically driven.

Nobody wants that shit or the baggage that accompanies it.
 

JLM

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All well known to industry followers.

The Kinder Morgan expansion was never economically driven.

Nobody wants that shit or the baggage that accompanies it.

You just keep telling yourself that shit and pretty soon there will be two of you who believe it. :lol:
 

spilledthebeer

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Probably not a problem- "deadlines" are often adjustable! :lol:


Kinder Morgan pipeline is not needed cry LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Poor LIE-berals prove yet again they are NOT smart enough to lead us!!!!


LIE-berals prove yet again they are too arrogant to follow real leaders!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals prove they are to dumb to get put of the way of sensible people!!!!!!!!!


Iran is hell bent on building nuclear weapons- one way of slowing them down is to have an ALTERNATE SOURCE of oil so Iran will NOT be able to sell their oil to finance nuclear research!!!!!


Nuclear armed Pakistan is decending into political chaos motivated by radical Islam and aided by ever helpful Chinese communist agents!!!!



There are various countries that would be just as happy buying Cdn oil rather than sucking up to Iran!!!!


Same thing with the Russians- Trump has just lambasted Germany for signing the multi billion dollar natural gas deal with Russia- thus giving the Russians a nice supply of hard currency with which to build up their military in preparation for MORE MISCHIEF in other countries!!!!!!!


Why would Putin support a Syrian clod like Assad unless Putin is deliberately putting the screws to western govt??????


What benefit does Russia get from messing with Syria- other than access to military bases close to NATO?



The Turkish Incerlic air base is one of the largest NATO bases in the world and what Russian agent would not want to bribe a few Turks to bring out assorted strategic planning information and technical information??????


And how inconvenient would it be for NATO to be DENIED use of any Turkish base thanks to Muslim radicals

operating with Russian aid?????


Cdn LIE-berals are so busy LYING about the illegals they are collecting like crazy cat ladies that they have not noticed that a lot of people LIKE the idea of "Fortress North America"!!!!!!


This concept DOES NOT mean surrendering to Yankees- it simply means we put CDN and Yankee needs ahead of the wishes of bankrupt foreign govts in pest hole countries!!!!!


Cdns and Yankees have the same enemies- Russians, Chinese, Iranians, radical Muslim terrorists, assorted organized crime lords and drug cartels and a lot of people would be happy if we could shut out such trouble makers!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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White on rice.


Poor LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They really DO believe they can tell enough new lies about their old lies that they will be believed at some point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral spin on the condition of the economy,



the truly stupid LIE-beral reasons for starting the trade war with Trump,



the real cost of collecting illegals as if they were merely stray cats,


the ugly reality of total |LIE-beral failure to handle crime issues,


the true cost of all that gross LIE-beral debt that only went into the pockets of civil service union Hogs,



and the true LIE-beral position on Kinder Morgan pipeline are starting to come out!!!!


Public opinion is turning HARD against all LIE-beral policy dur to its TOTAL FAILURE to produce desired results!!!!!














 

JLM

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Poor LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They really DO believe they can tell enough new lies about their old lies that they will be believed at some point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral spin on the condition of the economy,



the truly stupid LIE-beral reasons for starting the trade war with Trump,



the real cost of collecting illegals as if they were merely stray cats,


the ugly reality of total |LIE-beral failure to handle crime issues,


the true cost of all that gross LIE-beral debt that only went into the pockets of civil service union Hogs,



and the true LIE-beral position on Kinder Morgan pipeline are starting to come out!!!!


Public opinion is turning HARD against all LIE-beral policy dur to its TOTAL FAILURE to produce desired results!!!!!















I think pretty well everyone on the forum understands your doubtful opinion of the Liberals. Were you planning on acting like an adult sometime in the near future? :lol:
 

taxslave

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There is virtually zero Asian demand for Alberta bitumen, new Kinder Morgan analysis reveals

Read this essential analysis from Mitchell Anderson in The Tyee, torpedoing the argument that Alberta needs Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion in order to capitalize on pent up Asian demand for its bitumen:
Canadians are often told the Trans Mountain pipeline project is imperative to access Asian markets anxious to buy Alberta bitumen.
True? Like many things in life, the truth is found in hard facts, not overheated rhetoric or wishful thinking. Ten years ago the Trans Mountain pipeline was quietly expanded by 40,000 barrels per day, about 13 per cent. With a decade of shipping data available since that upgrade, has the Asian market since exploded for Alberta bitumen?
Crunching the cargo statistics from the Port of Vancouver a very different picture emerges. In 2016 — the last year that complete data is available — the U.S. accounted for 99.99 per cent of outbound crude oil shipments. Of the 1,185,289 tonnes of crude shipped in bulk tankers that year, 1,185,121 tonnes were delivered to the United States.
In fact, total crude tanker shipments from Vancouver peaked eight years ago in 2010 at 4.3 million tonnes and have since declined 72 per cent.
And what about those hungry Asian markets? Crude exports from Vancouver to China topped out in 2011 at only 28 per cent of total outbound shipments. By 2014, they dropped to six per cent, and in 2016 they were essentially zero. The next largest Asian importers of crude from Vancouver were Singapore, which peaked at four per cent of total shipments in 2009, and India reaching two per cent in 2013.


More: There is virtually zero Asian demand for Alberta bitumen, new Kinder Morgan analysis reveals -The Common Sense CanadianThe Common Sense Canadian

Another BS OP-Ed piece from you Tyee news. like everything else from Dippers press facts are not required.