Any records of tailing ponds failing, or rupturing and contaminating the surrounding areas?
Tory MP says we'll be able to drink from oilsands tailing ponds
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a couple............
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ya,quite a few strip mines in B.C. have contaminated waterways right at the continental divide.
Nowadays it is allmost unheard of.
The "captains of industry" certainly have done a wonderful job on portions of the Great Lakes and St. Lawrence, no!
Your example, plus Love Canal, heavy metal along the South of the Larry. The big deal a few years back of suddenly discovering lesions on lake trout, .............made headlines for a year or two till "they" realized there was fukk all could be done about it Suddenly all pollution news dried up (no pun intended).
People now eat fish from the Larry at their peril. Accumulative poison, so it won't kill them till it does.............no problem
But, that's only Ontario getting the sh it kicked out of it, so, no problem. We deserve it, eh.:roll: Support the country for years and years.................we deserve it.
Sheesh, we're movin West where we can drink that good ol tailing pond stuff.
I can only hope all me Newf buddies make their money from the oil patch, and then have the smarts to get the hell home where they wanted to be all along. Imagine the tales around the stove in Come by Chance................"some dickhead actually drinkin that shyte,
Ken ya believe it?!!"
pollution isnt only in Ontario,they got away with lots of stuff in the old days that would get you 10 years in prison now.
Why people only focus on the old days is beyond me when we have come so far since then,I guess some dont want to see good environmentalism because they would have nothing to whine about.
Why people only focus on the old days is beyond me when we have come so far since then,I guess some dont want to see good environmentalism because they would have nothing to whine about.
He didn't. It wasn't full strength herbicide but diluted to application strength and he only had one glass. At that time some of the people applying this stuff were having water fights with it.
Same as the greenie weenies show a picture of a coal burning smokestack from the 40s when ever they try to claim coal is bad for the environment instead of one from a modern facility which of course wouldn't suit their purpose.
Kind of like global warming: the cycle of warming was on the upswing and human actions caused the warming period to be extended. We didn't cause it but we interruopted the natural cycle and are contributing to it.
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I fear you're right.
Steven Harper may talk like he cares about this province, but what he's doing right now could very well destroy some of the most valuable parts of it. We went through a serious drought a few years ago and it's hard to describe what it's like to get no meaningful rain for months, climate change is not a good thing.
There are some Albertans that seem to truly believe that oil is more important than life, it's scary that we have one heading our government now.
Take away oil and you wouldnt have a life period.So you can thank us Albertans for extending your life unless you want to live in a cave and burn elk fat for heat and light.
I find it odd that all the pissing and moaning about fossil fuel production and global warming happens in Canada and the US. where there are an overabundance of government regulations and oversight. How come no one ever complains about oil production in say Nigeria or South Sudan where there is almost no government period never mind regulations and enforcement. and you can buy any permits the current ruler demands.
The moaning and weeping is mostly from folks who are jelous of Albertas prosperity,you can see the agenda plain as day in any op or topic about the oilsands.
I'm in SK right now and it is absolutely nuts!
I tried counting all the pumpjacks I could see today from my vantage point and I could see about 3 miles,I stopped at 175 and I only counted about half.
Soon SK will take some of the heat off Alberta as the environuts start to focus on them maybe.
Anyone with a class 1 or all oilfield tickets will have a good paying job here as soon as they can get here.
The welders are driving hummers for christs sake!
Oil patch wages run anywhere from $20.00\hr for labourer or $32.00 for hourly or $50.00 for contractors(minimum) and the smallest earner on the pay scale will make at least $350.00 a day and the largest like #1 field boss makes about $1200 a day and a seasoned inspector makes about $2000.00 a day.
Alberta is producing,the price of natural gas which is at an all time low means no new gas wells in Alberta so all Albertas rigs are now in Saskatchewan.
The few years I did work in Alberta,I never saw anything like this there.
If I was my son's age I would be there. Still might if things get any slower in BC. But I don't like cold so as long as I can make 70+ a year I will stay at home.
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We already know that a drought occurs when not enough rain falls to the ground. However, water vapor condenses only if air rises into the colder regions of the atmosphere. If the air doesn’t rise, then no rain will form. When there is high air pressure, air falls instead of rising. With the air pressing down in a high pressure zone, no currents of water vapor are carried upward. As a result, no condensation occurs, and little rain falls to earth. In addition, high-pressure areas push clouds and air currents downward and away, resulting in sunny, cloudless weather. Low-pressure systems see more cloudy, stormy weather.
Usually, however, we experience both high- and low-pressure systems. It is normal for a high-pressure system to pass over an area and move on, being replaced by a low-pressure system. However, when a high-pressure system is stalled, the sunny weather can drag on for days. If it keeps on going, the result is a drought.
High-pressure systems can be stalled by jet streams, wide bands of fast-moving air (up to 335 miles per hour) in the upper atmosphere. Masses of air that usually move from place to place can be locked in one area by jet streams.
Unusual currents of cold and warm water in the ocean can also stall a high-pressure system. In the Pacific, a warm water current known as El Nino brings low-pressure systems that cause hurricanes and other violent storms to North America, while a cold water current known as La Nina brings drought. In Asia, the opposite occurs, with El Nino bringing drought and La Nina stormy weather.
Or droughts occur because water vapor is not brought by air currents to the right areas at the right times. Water that evaporates from the oceans is brought inland by wind to regions where it is needed. However, sometimes those winds are not strong enough. In the eastern United States, moisture is carried up from the Gulf of Mexico by northward blowing winds. This moisture is then pushed by other winds until it reaches the Midwest. This water then falls to the ground, supporting the farms in that region. However, if the winds don’t blow at the right time, in the right direction, or with enough force, the moisture falls in other areas and that Midwest region suffers from drought. A similar phenomenon occurs in southeast Asia. Usually, summer winds known as monsoons carry water vapor north from the Indian Ocean inland, providing desperately needed rain. Sometimes, however, instead of blowing from north to south, they blow east to west. When that happens, the vapor doesn’t leave the Indian Ocean and many people suffer from the resulting droughts.
Mountains can prevent wind from blowing moisture to needed regions. As air is moving past a mountain range, it is forced to rise in order to pass over the peaks. However, as the air rises, it becomes colder and the vapor condenses into rain or snow. The rain then falls on that side of the mountain, known as the windward side (the side that is turned toward the wind). When the air mass finally makes it over the mountain, it has lost much of its vapor. This is another reason why many deserts are found on the side of a mountain facing away from the ocean. This phenomenon is known as the rain shadow effect.
We already know that a drought occurs when not enough rain falls to the ground. However, water vapor condenses only if air rises into the colder regions of the atmosphere. If the air doesn’t rise, then no rain will form. When there is high air pressure, air falls instead of rising. With the air pressing down in a high pressure zone, no currents of water vapor are carried upward. As a result, no condensation occurs, and little rain falls to earth. In addition, high-pressure areas push clouds and air currents downward and away, resulting in sunny, cloudless weather. Low-pressure systems see more cloudy, stormy weather.
Usually, however, we experience both high- and low-pressure systems. It is normal for a high-pressure system to pass over an area and move on, being replaced by a low-pressure system. However, when a high-pressure system is stalled, the sunny weather can drag on for days. If it keeps on going, the result is a drought.
High-pressure systems can be stalled by jet streams, wide bands of fast-moving air (up to 335 miles per hour) in the upper atmosphere. Masses of air that usually move from place to place can be locked in one area by jet streams.
Unusual currents of cold and warm water in the ocean can also stall a high-pressure system. In the Pacific, a warm water current known as El Nino brings low-pressure systems that cause hurricanes and other violent storms to North America, while a cold water current known as La Nina brings drought. In Asia, the opposite occurs, with El Nino bringing drought and La Nina stormy weather.
Or droughts occur because water vapor is not brought by air currents to the right areas at the right times. Water that evaporates from the oceans is brought inland by wind to regions where it is needed. However, sometimes those winds are not strong enough. In the eastern United States, moisture is carried up from the Gulf of Mexico by northward blowing winds. This moisture is then pushed by other winds until it reaches the Midwest. This water then falls to the ground, supporting the farms in that region. However, if the winds don’t blow at the right time, in the right direction, or with enough force, the moisture falls in other areas and that Midwest region suffers from drought. A similar phenomenon occurs in southeast Asia. Usually, summer winds known as monsoons carry water vapor north from the Indian Ocean inland, providing desperately needed rain. Sometimes, however, instead of blowing from north to south, they blow east to west. When that happens, the vapor doesn’t leave the Indian Ocean and many people suffer from the resulting droughts.
Mountains can prevent wind from blowing moisture to needed regions. As air is moving past a mountain range, it is forced to rise in order to pass over the peaks. However, as the air rises, it becomes colder and the vapor condenses into rain or snow. The rain then falls on that side of the mountain, known as the windward side (the side that is turned toward the wind). When the air mass finally makes it over the mountain, it has lost much of its vapor. This is another reason why many deserts are found on the side of a mountain facing away from the ocean. This phenomenon is known as the rain shadow effect.
Why not? Because it basically stating that droughts are a natural thing? That there is basically no control over them. Nothing about droughts being caused by global warming.
Sometime droughts are part of a cycle,but some people ignore sometime that we have a part in it these recent years,uncontrolled pollution,some countries apparently can buy the right to pollute as much as they want.
the whole Kyoto accord was for nothing and a big joke in my opinion.
the whole Kyoto accord was for nothing and a big joke in my opinion.