Tories take backseat to NDP and Wildrose in Alberta
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"Real" socialism is the common ownership of private property and the co-operative management of industry. It isn't "working for the common good" per se, but workers keeping the wealth they generate and maintaining a society beneficial to all. Social Democracy (the NDP), an ideology you seem to confuse with lazy people getting handouts, is about maintaining the capitalist system that funnels wealth from wealth-creators (workers) to the rich, and then redistributing that wealth back down to the lower classes after the fact. Social Democracy recognizes the inequalities in the system and seeks to alleviate them, whereas socialism wants to replace that system.
Of course, you know all this, don't you Comrade JLM? Didn't you tell me you were a socialist for 30 years?
Well the election mask got pulled off the old Lone Ranger
The polls were right NDP up Tories destroyed, Wildrose
won more seats but lost a lot of popular vote.
Young people made the difference and the older ones joined
because of budget cutting that might effect medicare and
pension money. Prentice was an arrogant fool in the end he
couldn't handle going to opposition benches to see what its
like. I am also impressed with Notley and Mr Jean for that
matter they both have my respect at the moment
The polls were right NDP up Tories destroyed, Wildrose
won more seats but lost a lot of popular vote.
Young people made the difference and the older ones joined
because of budget cutting that might effect medicare and
pension money. Prentice was an arrogant fool in the end he
couldn't handle going to opposition benches to see what its
like. I am also impressed with Notley and Mr Jean for that
matter they both have my respect at the moment
Nobody was/is going to cut pensions or medical care.
What we will see is the AB Crown getting into the oil business incurring big debt without first planning a huge push and achieving west coast pipelines and ports.
SK investments in BC ports was the key to the potash boom. Next stop NB. 5 new massive mines being built and expansion of all the others = cha ching in 5 years
What we will see is the AB Crown getting into the oil business incurring big debt without first planning a huge push and achieving west coast pipelines and ports.
SK investments in BC ports was the key to the potash boom. Next stop NB. 5 new massive mines being built and expansion of all the others = cha ching in 5 years
A great irony being that around 25 yrs ago, under Don Getty's "stewardship" the Alberta gov't started to sell off Alberta Energy Company, which had large stakes in the natural gas industry, the 2nd largest share of Syncrude, owned the pipelines bringing oil sands synthetic crude south, and large reserves of heavy oil in the Cold Lake/Foster Creek region...
Way more fun throwing around undefined terms that basically mean "stuff I don't like."
Well I voted for the Socialists for 30 years mistakenly thinking they were for the working man. What a mistake that turned out to be. You live and learn. Actually whatever it is you wish to pursue in life, I think doing it via any politician is a mistake.
Well I voted for the Socialists for 30 years mistakenly thinking they were for the working man. What a mistake that turned out to be. You live and learn. Actually whatever it is you wish to pursue in life, I think doing it via any politician is a mistake.
I don't think I've ever seen a "socialist" party on an ballot. Of course, I am a lot younger than you. Which socialist party are you referring to?
Well I voted for the Socialists for 30 years mistakenly thinking they were for the working man. What a mistake that turned out to be. You live and learn. Actually whatever it is you wish to pursue in life, I think doing it via any politician is a mistake.
What "socialists" did you vote for? What Country were you living in for 30 years?
Nope they just put the candidates names in alphabetical order. Well, I was referring to the N.D.P. (which is a misnomer) but they morphed out of the old "C.C.F." party in the late 50s. (Everybody is younger than me)
I've lived in Canada for over 70 years, Sonny.
Nope they just put the candidates names in alphabetical order. Well, I was referring to the N.D.P. (which is a misnomer) but they morphed out of the old "C.C.F." party in the late 50s. (Everybody is younger than me)
I voted for the NDP in BC from the 70's on up and at no time, during that time, could they have been considered "socialist".
Nope they just put the candidates names in alphabetical order. Well, I was referring to the N.D.P. (which is a misnomer) but they morphed out of the old "C.C.F." party in the late 50s. (Everybody is younger than me)
The NDP are social democrats not socialists. CCF was more socialist than the NDP. It's not a misnomer. The NDP's existence is a concerted attempt to soften the left leaning bents of their predecessors.
Just while they were professing to be socialists!
If the party was correctly named it would be the N.U.P. That might be one of the causes but the #1 is definitely not having a job or other source of income- but preferably a job.
I never did see too much democratic about them.
Probably not but they considered themselves socialists- I was a card carrying member for several years.
Where does the democrat fit in?