Time for Justin to grow a set of balls

[Mowich]

... we know that many of the ones that are coming and will be coming by the hundreds will be criminals, since they are the ones the Trump is yelling about getting out first!

We don't know any such thing, Rem. We may suspect there are criminals among the illegal aliens crossing over into our country but until I hear word of that from our Border Security Services or the RCMP - which BTW, I haven't so far - I won't make any snap judgements based on what The Donald is saying.

 

[Cannuck]

Did you learn from it?
BTW this is a post. A thread is the whole group of posts.
You're welcome.

You can post a thread.

You're welcome

 

[Decapoda]

You are way out of line on this, JLM. Get it through your head that Justin has NO recourse in this matter but to follow the law.

While his hands are tied under current legislation and procedure, I think there needs to be a discussion on whether the current process serves Canadians or refugee claimants well. People freezing half to death trying to get into the country illegally does not seem to be very Canadian, eh? Also, if there are already dozens of illegal crossings happening right now in the middle of February, has anyone entertained the possibility of what things are going to be like in the middle of summer when the weather is not an impedance? This needs to be addressed now.

If Trudeau can legalize a Schedule 1 Drug like marijuana with a wave of his magic wand, certainly he could at least begin a discussion on possible solutions or changes to the current refugee process. This does not seem to be much of a priority for him, however.

 

[Mowich]

These people who are claiming refugee status are nothing more than liars, close to being criminals.

Let's follow the process;

To get into the US, they had to apply for a Visa. To get this Visa they would have had to LIE on their application form, otherwise they it would not have been granted to them.
So they planned this criminal activity right from the start.

If scum bag Trudeau had any balls at all, he would not participate with these losers to allow them access to my country.

If they were truly refugees, they should have applied from their country.

They are NOT refugees, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS - at least get that part right.

WTF can't you and JLM get it through your thick heads that the PM is BOUND BY LAW, FFS. There is a PROCESS in place that he and our government are BOUND by.

 

[Cannuck]

If Trudeau can legalize a Schedule 1 Drug like marijuana with a wave of his magic wand...

He can't...That's kinda the point. Can I add you to the list of CC members that don't have a clue how government works?

 

[Durry]

They are NOT refugees, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS - at least get that part right.

WTF can't you and JLM get it through your thick heads that the PM is BOUND BY LAW, FFS. There is a PROCESS in place that he and our government are BOUND by.

You are some dumbo alright.

Illegal Alien is an American legal term, it's not a Canadian legal term, stupid.

Trudeau is participating in this criminal refugees activity. What he is doing would be like driving a get-a-way car for a bank robber.

Got it stupid!!

 

[Hoof Hearted]

I think Mowich is Wonderwoman...

She always ties the men up in her Lasso of Truth!

Meow!

 

[lone wolf]

Durry sounds like one of those azzholes who'd grow his first hard-on machine-gunning them down

 

[Mowich]

While his hands are tied under current legislation and procedure, I think there needs to be a discussion on whether the current process serves Canadians or refugee claimants well. People freezing half to death trying to get into the country illegally does not seem to be very Canadian, eh? Also, if there are already dozens of illegal crossings happening right now in the middle of February, has anyone entertained the possibility of what things are going to be like in the middle of summer when the weather is not an impedance? This needs to be addressed now.

I completely agree that a discussion has to be held about illegal aliens entering our country, Dec. I too am worried about what will happen once the weather warms up. The US President said his new travel ban will be coming out this week. Until we know exactly what is in the ban and if it will stand up to challenges, we are left in the semi-dark as to whether or not we will see a steady increase in the numbers sneaking across into Canada.

If Trudeau can legalize a Schedule 1 Drug like marijuana with a wave of his magic wand, certainly he could at least begin a discussion on possible solutions or changes to the current refugee process. This does not seem to be much of a priority for him, however.

There has been a lot of discussion about the problem in Parliament, Dec. One of the current suggestions is for Canada to suspend the Safe Third County rule though I am unsure as to how that would change the way we currently handle those crossing illegally.

You are some dumbo alright.

Illegal Alien is an American legal term, it's not a Canadian legal term, stupid.

Trudeau is participating in this criminal refugees activity. What he is doing would be like driving a get-a-way car for a bank robber.

Got it stupid!!

There is no changing the mind of someone so set in their thinking that not a single avenue is left open for debate.

 

[Corduroy]

While his hands are tied under current legislation and procedure, I think there needs to be a discussion on whether the current process serves Canadians or refugee claimants well. People freezing half to death trying to get into the country illegally does not seem to be very Canadian, eh? Also, if there are already dozens of illegal crossings happening right now in the middle of February, has anyone entertained the possibility of what things are going to be like in the middle of summer when the weather is not an impedance? This needs to be addressed now.

If Trudeau can legalize a Schedule 1 Drug like marijuana with a wave of his magic wand, certainly he could at least begin a discussion on possible solutions or changes to the current refugee process. This does not seem to be much of a priority for him, however.

Our laws regarding refugees and the agreement with the United States are direct causes of this problem. The agreement with the US causes refugees legally crossing from the US border to be turned away, since the US is considered a safe country we figure they can't be fleeing the US and should claim status there. But crossing it illegally gives the chance of having a hearing and so their claim is considered. It's a loophole that actually encourages people to cross illegally.

It's been pointed out as a problem with the law but hasn't been a major issue because there hasn't been a influx of refugees crossing from the US. Now it clearly is a problem and a lot of people are risking their lives because of a loophole we haven't bothered to address. So yes, it is something the government needs to revisit. We can't have people trudging through the snow and dying on their way to Canada.

Durry sounds like one of those azzholes who'd grow his first hard-on machine-gunning them down

I've said it before. Dreary is a future terrorist.

 

[Murphy]

My problem with illegal aliens showing up is that they are knowingly taking advantage of lax immigration laws. What our laws amount to is just show up and claim refugee status.

Because it is 2017 and everyone is touchy feely, the governments of many countries just take them in without considering the difficulties associated with 1000s showing up virtually uncontrolled. The system is overwhelmed, the taxpayers of the various countries are on the hook for millions and crime rates shoot up. This is what we're seeing in Europe.

Some of the governments there do not wish to be seen as the bad guy, or incapable of being able to handle things I suppose, so news events don't get properly reported.

Unfortunately, it has to get worse before corrections come about. A country like Germany, Sweden or the US must take the lead and be first. That will make them unpopular and even criticized by other nations. I suspect that Germany is a bit touchy about coming down hard on the Muslims there, given the country's track record last century. I am hoping that Sweden cracks the whip. It would set a precedent that other countries would adopt and follow.

To steal from an old work out video, someone has to be first to, 'Stop the madness!'

 

[JLM]

WTF can't you and JLM get it through your thick heads that the PM is BOUND BY LAW, FFS. There is a PROCESS in place that he and our government are BOUND by.

I'm interested in finding the chapter and verse in the criminal code where that law is laid out!

We don't know any such thing, Rem. We may suspect there are criminals among the illegal aliens crossing over into our country but until I hear word of that from our Border Security Services or the RCMP - which BTW, I haven't so far - I won't make any snap judgements based on what The Donald is saying.

Why would upstanding citizens be trying to sneak past customs, if they don't think they'd be rejected?

 

[lone wolf]

Why would upstanding citizens be trying to sneak past customs, if they don't think they'd be rejected?

They wouldn't feel threatened if they were citizens

 

[Corduroy]

I'm interested in finding the chapter and verse in the criminal code where that law is laid out!

Google it. You won't find much in the Criminal Code though. Look in the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.

My problem with illegal aliens showing up is that they are knowingly taking advantage of lax immigration laws. What our laws amount to is just show up and claim refugee status.

I don't think you know what our immigration law is. It isn't lax. It's very complicated. You can't just show up and claim refugee status and have it automatically granted to you, and in this particular case a specific legal provision makes it harder for these people have their claims succeed. If they had arrived on a boat from halfway around the world, they'd have a better chance. But since they came from the US, they might be turned away.

 

[EagleSmack]

But since they came from the US, they might be turned away.

Turned away!

Justin is lying then?

Screw that... Justin said he'd take them... and here they come.

This cannot be stopped.

 

[petros]

Justin didn't lie. SJWs simply can't read or comprehend what was said.

 

[Murphy]

I am aware of how the laws are here. The adult illegals are taken into custody and they get a representative to explain to them what, if any legal options they have. I doubt that you will see any illegals who came in from the US sent back across the border in a bus. Barring proof of them being wanted for a serious crime somewhere else in the world, they will be put up here.

 

[petros]

Put up in CBSA holding or remand.

 

[JLM]

I am aware of how the laws are here. The adult illegals are taken into custody and they get a representative to explain to them what, if any legal options they have. I doubt that you will see any illegals who came in from the US sent back across the border in a bus. Barring proof of them being wanted for a serious crime somewhere else in the world, they will be put up here.

So how many should we take before the law is changed? 100,000?, a million?, 5 million?

 

[Mowich]

Our laws regarding refugees and the agreement with the United States are direct causes of this problem. The agreement with the US causes refugees legally crossing from the US border to be turned away, since the US is considered a safe country we figure they can't be fleeing the US and should claim status there. But crossing it illegally gives the chance of having a hearing and so their claim is considered. It's a loophole that actually encourages people to cross illegally.

It's been pointed out as a problem with the law but hasn't been a major issue because there hasn't been a influx of refugees crossing from the US. Now it clearly is a problem and a lot of people are risking their lives because of a loophole we haven't bothered to address. So yes, it is something the government needs to revisit. We can't have people trudging through the snow and dying on their way to Canada.

We can't have people thinking that they can illegally cross our borders at any time of year, Corduroy. Our government needs to sit down and draw up or amend current laws in order to allow the RCMP and Border Security Agencies to escort those individuals/groups back to the US. They have no right to take priority over the thousands of legal applicants currently in line for entry to our country. We have yet to finish settling the thousands of Syrian's who will be coming this year. We have just committed to taking in 1200 Yazidis this year. And, there are all those from non-warring countries who had applied to come to Canada who also have to go through the immigration process.

I am happy to see new people coming to our country no matter where they hail from. I am not happy with our record of providing the necessary services to them once they are here. We have yet to find enough ESL teachers to keep up with the demand from this last wave of refugees and I keep harping on that particular item because it is the key to quickly integrating non-English speaking newcomers - and, it is the one item that I hear refugees and immigrants mention the most. Better we have everything in place before opening our doors than be caught out by lack of preparation.