Three RCMP Shot Dead in Moncton NB

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Personally I couldn't do it. Not knowingly anyway. If I knew for a fact the person was guilty I wouldn't be able to defend them.

Neither could I, I just don't have it in me. Having said that though I am glad that there are people who can.
 

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Neither could I, I just don't have it in me. Having said that though I am glad that there are people who can.


I hear you, but I do feel it's important to see they get a fair trial just to avoid any adverse repercussions down the road.
 

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Tuesday, June 10th, 2014 | Posted by Anthony Hall
A Canadian Rambo?

Unanswered Questions on the Moncton Shooter and the RCMP

A Critical Look at the Facts and the Hype Concerning the Moncton Shooting Episode. Is the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Deploying Disinfo at the Behest of US Black-Ops Funders?

Wolf suggests that the Moncton episode’s whole US-counterterrorist-style might be explained by following the flow of US-black-op-financing apparently now streaming into the burgeoning Canadian police state. Wolf’s observations about possible US involvement in the Moncton shootings helped me to remember theories going around in 2013 about the possible role of US Delta Force/Statfor (see below) in the heavily-armed raids of the RCMP on Native Mi’Kmaq anti-fracking activists in and around Elsipogtog.

A Canadian Rambo? | Veterans Today
 

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petros

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I saw an RCMP tactical truck with what appeared to be bad ball joints wandering all over the damn street following the Pony around the other day.

Must have been bad American ball joints on that truck?

PS. It was identical to the one on the tube in Moncton. I wonder if it needs ball joints too?
 

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Tuesday, June 10th, 2014 | Posted by Anthony Hall
A Canadian Rambo?

Unanswered Questions on the Moncton Shooter and the RCMP

A Critical Look at the Facts and the Hype Concerning the Moncton Shooting Episode. Is the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Deploying Disinfo at the Behest of US Black-Ops Funders?

Wolf suggests that the Moncton episode’s whole US-counterterrorist-style might be explained by following the flow of US-black-op-financing apparently now streaming into the burgeoning Canadian police state. Wolf’s observations about possible US involvement in the Moncton shootings helped me to remember theories going around in 2013 about the possible role of US Delta Force/Statfor (see below) in the heavily-armed raids of the RCMP on Native Mi’Kmaq anti-fracking activists in and around Elsipogtog.

A Canadian Rambo? | Veterans Today

Sigh

I have inside knowledge of the NB fracking conflict.

There was no US influence on our side.....that would be the same side as the RCMP, aside from the fact the company exploring was a US company.

I can't say the same for the idiot natives on the anti-fracking side.

If anything, the RCMP were FAR too easy on them.

Quit reading stuff by lunatics.
 

petros

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There was no US influence on our side.....that would be the same side as the RCMP, aside from the fact the company exploring was a US company.

I can't say the same for the idiot natives on the anti-fracking side.

Have you ever heard of FNs in SK or AB bitch about frakking? Out here they are getting geophysical surveys for oil gas and potash in hopes for frakking g the sh-t out of or mining any deposits they hold the rights too and investing in their youth to get into trades and be part of the bonanza.

I'd wager you're right about outside influences f-cking with their heads. It's a sure bet.
 

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Suspect in Mountie Shootings Ruled Fit for Trial

The Canadian Press
Published Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:55AM EDT
Last Updated Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:39PM EDT
MONCTON, N.B. -- A New Brunswick man charged with fatally shooting three RCMP officers and wounding two others last month in Moncton has been found fit to stand trial.
Justin Bourque faces three charges of first-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder.
A provincial court judge read today from a psychiatric assessment that concluded Bourque is competent and mentally fit for trial.

Bourque has elected to be tried by judge and jury and his case was adjourned until Aug. 8 in the Court of Queen's Bench.
Constables Dave Ross, Fabrice Gevaudan and Douglas Larche were gunned down after responding to a report of a man with firearms in a residential neighbourhood on June 4.
Constables Eric Dubois and Darlene Goguen were wounded and later released from hospital.
Bourque was arrested following a 30-hour manhunt.
The 24-year-old man has not entered pleas to the charges.


Read more: Justin Bourque, suspect in Moncton Mountie shootings, ruled fit for trial | CTV News
 

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NB man who killed three Mounties in 2014 files appeal of stiff sentence
Justin Bourque was sentenced to three consecutive 25-year ineligibility periods

Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published Jan 05, 2023 • 3 minute read

FREDERICTON — A New Brunswick man who fatally shot three Mounties eight years ago has applied to the province’s highest court to have his precedent-setting sentence drastically reduced.


In 2014, Justin Bourque was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 75 years, which at the time was the harshest penalty imposed by a Canadian court since 1962 — the last time state-sanctioned executions were carried out.


In a notice of appeal filed last month, Bourque’s lawyer cites the Supreme Court of Canada’s decision in May to strike down a 2011 law that made it possible for judges to extend parole ineligibility periods beyond 25 years for people convicted of multiple murders.

In its decision last year, the Supreme Court said the Criminal Code provision violated the Charter of Rights and Freedoms because it amounted to cruel and unusual punishment for offenders who faced no realistic possibility of being granted parole before they died. The top court also declared the law was invalid retroactive to when it was enacted.


Bourque’s lawyer, David Lutz, confirmed Thursday that the New Brunswick Court of Appeal will deal with the matter on Feb. 15, but he said there will be no oral hearing at that time. He declined to comment when asked if the proceeding will be just a formality, given the Supreme Court of Canada’s earlier decision.

That unanimous ruling was in response to an appeal filed by Alexandre Bissonnette, who was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 40 years after he pleaded guilty to fatally shooting six people at a Quebec City mosque in 2017.

A judge found the parole ineligibility provision unconstitutional but did not declare it invalid. Quebec’s Court of Appeal subsequently ruled the provision invalid on constitutional grounds. And it said the court must revert to the law as it stood before 2011, meaning parole ineligibility periods are to be served concurrently instead of consecutively, resulting in a total waiting period of 25 years in Bissonnette’s case.


Bourque pleaded guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder after targeting RCMP officers on the night of June 4, 2014.

An agreed statement of facts said Bourque’s actions in Moncton, N.B., were “planned and deliberate” when he used a semi-automatic rifle to kill constables Dave Ross, 32; Fabrice Gevaudan, 45; and Douglas Larche, 40. Constables Eric Dubois and Darlene Goguen were injured in the shootings.

At his sentencing hearing, the court watched a videotaped statement from Bourque, who said he had wanted to encourage people to rise up against the “soldiers” that defend federal institutions and protect the rich from the poor. He mused about his strict Catholic upbringing, climate change, evolution, social engineering, class warfare, tyrants and threats posed by the Russians and the Chinese.


He was automatically sentenced to life in prison — a minimum 25-year term. As well, the judge decided that under the 2011 law, the 25-year parole ineligibility period required for each first-degree murder conviction would be applied consecutively, meaning Bourque would have to wait 75 years before he could apply for parole.

With the anticipated reduction in that sentence next month, Bourque — who was 24 at the time of the murders — should be able to apply for parole when he is 49 instead of 99.

In its decision, the Supreme Court of Canada said the Charter requires Parliament to leave a door open for rehabilitation. Chief Justice Richard Wagner, writing on behalf of the high court, said the 2011 law authorized the courts to impose “a sentence so absurd that it would bring the administration of justice into disrepute.”

The 2011 legislation was called the Protecting Canadians by Ending Sentence Discounts for Multiple Murders Act. It was introduced by the Conservative government led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
 

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NB man who killed three Mounties in 2014 files appeal of stiff sentence
Justin Bourque was sentenced to three consecutive 25-year ineligibility periods

Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published Jan 05, 2023 • 3 minute read

FREDERICTON — A New Brunswick man who fatally shot three Mounties eight years ago has applied to the province’s highest court to have his precedent-setting sentence drastically reduced.


In 2014, Justin Bourque was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 75 years, which at the time was the harshest penalty imposed by a Canadian court since 1962 — the last time state-sanctioned executions were carried out.


In a notice of appeal filed last month, Bourque’s lawyer cites the Supreme Court of Canada’s decision in May to strike down a 2011 law that made it possible for judges to extend parole ineligibility periods beyond 25 years for people convicted of multiple murders.

In its decision last year, the Supreme Court said the Criminal Code provision violated the Charter of Rights and Freedoms because it amounted to cruel and unusual punishment for offenders who faced no realistic possibility of being granted parole before they died. The top court also declared the law was invalid retroactive to when it was enacted.


Bourque’s lawyer, David Lutz, confirmed Thursday that the New Brunswick Court of Appeal will deal with the matter on Feb. 15, but he said there will be no oral hearing at that time. He declined to comment when asked if the proceeding will be just a formality, given the Supreme Court of Canada’s earlier decision.

That unanimous ruling was in response to an appeal filed by Alexandre Bissonnette, who was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 40 years after he pleaded guilty to fatally shooting six people at a Quebec City mosque in 2017.

A judge found the parole ineligibility provision unconstitutional but did not declare it invalid. Quebec’s Court of Appeal subsequently ruled the provision invalid on constitutional grounds. And it said the court must revert to the law as it stood before 2011, meaning parole ineligibility periods are to be served concurrently instead of consecutively, resulting in a total waiting period of 25 years in Bissonnette’s case.


Bourque pleaded guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder after targeting RCMP officers on the night of June 4, 2014.

An agreed statement of facts said Bourque’s actions in Moncton, N.B., were “planned and deliberate” when he used a semi-automatic rifle to kill constables Dave Ross, 32; Fabrice Gevaudan, 45; and Douglas Larche, 40. Constables Eric Dubois and Darlene Goguen were injured in the shootings.

At his sentencing hearing, the court watched a videotaped statement from Bourque, who said he had wanted to encourage people to rise up against the “soldiers” that defend federal institutions and protect the rich from the poor. He mused about his strict Catholic upbringing, climate change, evolution, social engineering, class warfare, tyrants and threats posed by the Russians and the Chinese.


He was automatically sentenced to life in prison — a minimum 25-year term. As well, the judge decided that under the 2011 law, the 25-year parole ineligibility period required for each first-degree murder conviction would be applied consecutively, meaning Bourque would have to wait 75 years before he could apply for parole.

With the anticipated reduction in that sentence next month, Bourque — who was 24 at the time of the murders — should be able to apply for parole when he is 49 instead of 99.

In its decision, the Supreme Court of Canada said the Charter requires Parliament to leave a door open for rehabilitation. Chief Justice Richard Wagner, writing on behalf of the high court, said the 2011 law authorized the courts to impose “a sentence so absurd that it would bring the administration of justice into disrepute.”

The 2011 legislation was called the Protecting Canadians by Ending Sentence Discounts for Multiple Murders Act. It was introduced by the Conservative government led by Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Yeah no, fuck this guy.

Just ONE WEEK before his fiasco, my little town did a mock shooting preparedness/simulation at our University that involved the RCMP, ANB (Ambulance NB), and our local Fire Departments (and trainee police cadets from the school in Moncton). The K9 officer that participated in itwas the same one killed by this SOB (I met him; was a nice guy). Our town's RCMP were brought in to cover for the Moncton RCMP (this happens in any incident involving RCMP officers, apparently; out of town RCMP are brought in to cover so those local ones can deal with the incident without worry for shifts, etc.). Because of it we didn't debrief from the exercise for MONTHS after. And the RCMP involved were STILL traumatized over what happened (ironically, lessons learned during our exercise helped during the incident in Moncton, so some good was seen out of it).

So no, Screw Justin Bourque; may he FOREVER rot in a cell for what he did and the terror he put citizens in Moncton through. There is NO rehab for him what so ever.
 

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Consecutive sentencing. I didn’t realize that was still a thing in Canada even, and thought that it was all concurrent sentencing at this point. Interesting.
 

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Consecutive sentencing. I didn’t realize that was still a thing in Canada even, and thought that it was all concurrent sentencing at this point. Interesting.
Still doesn’t mean much to the parole board, whose job is to keep jai costs as low as possible without unduly upsetting honest taxpayers.
 

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Court reduces sentence for Moncton Mountie killer Justin Bourque
Parole ineligibility period reduced to 25 years from record-setting 75 years

Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Hina Alam
Published Mar 02, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 4 minute read

FREDERICTON — New Brunswick’s highest court says it had no choice but to reduce the sentence of Justin Bourque, the man who used a semi-automatic rifle to murder three Mounties in Moncton in 2014.


In its 12-page decision released Thursday, the New Brunswick Court of Appeal said it was “duty-bound” to cut Bourque’s parole ineligibility period to 25 years from the record-setting 75 years imposed by a lower court judge after the triple slaying.


The three-judge appeal panel said its ruling was based on last year’s Supreme Court of Canada decision involving Quebec City mosque shooter Alexandre Bissonnette, which struck down a 2011 federal law that made it possible for judges to extend parole ineligibility periods beyond 25 years for people convicted of multiple murders.

“The Supreme Court’s decision in Bissonnette makes the sentence imposed on Mr. Bourque one that is neither permitted by law nor constitutional,” New Brunswick’s Court of Appeal said. It added that the ruling by the country’s highest court is “binding on us” and governs the outcome of Bourque’s appeal.


The Court of Appeal, however, said all other aspects of his sentence remain unchanged.

In August 2014, Bourque pleaded guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and two counts of attempted murder after targeting RCMP officers on the night of June 4 of that year. He was automatically sentenced to life in prison — a minimum 25-year term.

But the judge at the time decided that the 25-year parole ineligibility period required for each first-degree murder conviction would be applied consecutively, meaning Bourque would have to wait 75 years — and be 99 years old — before he could apply for parole. It was the harshest penalty imposed by a Canadian court since 1962 — the last time state-sanctioned executions were carried out.


However, the Supreme Court in May 2022 decided that consecutive sentences violated the Charter of Rights and Freedoms because they amounted to cruel and unusual punishment for offenders who faced no realistic possibility of being granted parole before they died. The top court also declared the 2011 law was invalid retroactive to when it was enacted.

Bourque appealed his sentence, and on Thursday New Brunswick’s Court of Appeal said it had no choice but to grant the accused’s application. The killer — who was 24 at the time of the murders — should be able to apply for parole when he is 49 years old.

The RCMP, Crown prosecutor Patrick McGuinty and Bourque’s lawyer, David Lutz, did not immediately return a request for comment.


A statement from the National Police Federation, which represents about 20,000 RCMP officers, said it respects the authority of the Supreme Court of Canada “even if we disagree with this specific decision regarding broader public safety needs.”

In a statement, the police union said the federal government “should consider reviewing and modernizing sentencing guidelines in order to reflect modern public safety needs, which polling data from 2022 shows that a majority of Canadians would also support.”

Nadine Larche, wife of Const. Douglas Larche — one of three Mounties Bourque killed — said in an open letter Thursday to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that the May 2022 decision by Supreme Court to change the law “directly impacts me and my family.”


“My three daughters and I, along with our families, co-workers, and an entire community are the victims left behind,” she said in the statement posted on social media.

The Supreme Court, Larche said, “has effectively taken away a vital tool for ensuring justice for victims and their families by revoking the ability of the courts to extend parole ineligibility.”

“The person who murdered my husband did something that was cruel and unusual, and their sentence should reflect the severity of the crimes that they wilfully committed.”

An agreed statement of facts said Bourque’s actions in Moncton were “planned and deliberate” when he used a semi-automatic rifle to kill constables Larche, 40; Dave Ross, 32; and Fabrice Gevaudan, 45. Constables Eric Dubois and Darlene Goguen were injured in the shootings.


At his sentencing hearing, the court watched a videotaped statement from Bourque, who said he wanted to encourage people to rise up against the “soldiers” that defend federal institutions and protect the rich from the poor. He mused about his strict Roman Catholic upbringing, climate change, evolution, social engineering, class warfare, tyrants and threats posed by the Russians and the Chinese.

The Supreme Court’s 2022 ruling was in response to an appeal filed by Bissonnette, who was sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 40 years after he pleaded guilty to fatally shooting six people at a Quebec City mosque in 2017.

A judge found the parole ineligibility provision unconstitutional but did not declare it invalid. Quebec’s Court of Appeal subsequently ruled the provision invalid on constitutional grounds. And it said the court must revert to the law as it stood before 2011, meaning parole ineligibility periods are to be served concurrently instead of consecutively, resulting in a total waiting period of 25 years in Bissonnette’s case.

Thursday’s decision said New Brunswick’s attorney general acknowledges the binding effect of Bissonnette. “We are duty-bound to vary the sentences such that the period of parole ineligibility be concurrent terms of 25 years,” it said.

“As explained in Bissonnette, in the current state of the law, Mr. Bourque will be eligible for parole, but eligibility does not mean he has a right to parole.”

— With files from Michael MacDonald in Halifax.