There have been 18 US school shootings this year. Is it time to arm teachers?

darkbeaver

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Why not just shut down the public school system, down there?

It doesn't appear to be working.

Nowhere in North America do public schools educate better than homeschooling. A link when and if I remember where I saw it this week past.


15 t0 25% better results in homeschooled pupils they quoted,

Children are actually being fukkedup in public schools. I know I was.
 

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Homeschooling is simply not possible.

The one per cent require the 99 per cent to work - mother and father.
 

JLM

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If you are quoting the 18 number (which you now say is 19) then you better include it to be consistent with all the other 18 incidents. It's as valid as any of the 18.

The important statistic out of these shootings is how many of them resulted in injury or death. The rest are of little consequence!
 

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Mass shootings happen at McDonalds too.

Obviously the burger flippers need to be armed.

And ushers in theaters.

Should pretty much everyone be armed at all times?

Is that not the ultimate expression of the 2nd ?

Is that not the society all Americans are striving towards?

What about passengers on flights?
 

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The proposal of arming the teachers fundamentally misreads the source of 10 fold factor of this type of event (non terrorist mass shootings) in the United States.

This type crime presents itself as an an opportunity potential shooters, always with a profile of an intense sense of physical inferiority, sexual inadequacy, social isolation, personal persecution.. as means of compensation and revenge.. BECAUSE of the prominence of guns and gun culture in USA.

The NRA promotes a culture that portrays gun ownership as a badge of manhood; the home as a fortress against dark forces that lurk in society; government, community and police as an inadequate response to this pervasive threat.

The ONLY way to reduce this is to control guns. Like they do in Canada, Europe, Japan.. which allows responsible ownership of hunting weaponry but severely limits that for 'protection'. And certainly does not allow the wearing of concealed handguns as a 'right'.

In Florida it is estimated that 10% of adult population is armed.. and it likely hasn't saved and single life and produces any number of horror stories of mistaken motives or road rage or domestic altercations ratcheted up to fatal consequences by the presence of a gun. It'll be the same with teachers, and will cultivate more shootings than it will prevent.

The Second Amendment was NOT a free for all for gun nuts, murderers and psychopaths. It was intended to protect the right of communities to establish Citizen Militias.. by their nature highly regulated and disciplined structures.. as a bulwark against tyranny.

It has morphed into this unrecognizable and irrational construct of gun ownership as a facet of individual liberty by the lobbying of the NRA. This is a group with 5 million members and the organization, financing and cunning to make this small minority and decisive force in American legislatures.

Been to Surrey lately?

What about passengers on flights?

Gun's on a plane isn't really a good idea. One little hole in the fuselage can rip a plane in half. Tazers might be an option for flight crews though.
 

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Nowhere in North America do public schools educate better than homeschooling. A link when and if I remember where I saw it this week past.


15 t0 25% better results in homeschooled pupils they quoted,

Children are actually being fukkedup in public schools. I know I was.
Yup, the drugs were much better when you went to school. :)
 

JLM

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Gun's on a plane isn't really a good idea. One little hole in the fuselage can rip a plane in half. Tazers might be an option for flight crews though.

I'm becoming less and less impressed with tasers. Could be mistaken, but when they were first introduced about 20 years ago I took them to be a non lethal remedy to developing potentially lethal situations.
 

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There already are armed air marshals.

But what if he's overpowered? Think of it as a form of mutually assured destruction. If hijackers know that bullets might end up decompressing the cockpit, they might think twice about hijacking the plane. Be
 

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Does the Second Amendment really protect assault weapons? Four courts have said no.

Almost exactly a year ago, a federal appeals court considered whether a Maryland law banning assault weapons was unconstitutional.
The law was passed in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook massacre, which left 20 first-graders and six adults dead after a man bearing an AR-15-style weapon stormed the school in Newtown, Conn.
“Nine terrified children ran from one of the classrooms when the gunman paused to reload, while two youngsters successfully hid in a restroom,” Judge Robert B. King of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit wrote in the majority opinion. “Another child was the other classroom’s sole survivor. In all, the gunman fired at least 155 rounds of ammunition within five minutes, shooting each of his victims multiple times.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...r-courts-have-said-no/?utm_term=.561a49875f81
 

JLM

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Nowhere in North America do public schools educate better than homeschooling. A link when and if I remember where I saw it this week past.


15 t0 25% better results in homeschooled pupils they quoted,

Children are actually being fukkedup in public schools. I know I was.

Don't you think a lot would depend on who is doing the home schooling? Believe it or not there are a few very good school teachers out there. Like any profession, there are experts and there are duds!
 

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I'm not arguing for or against air marshals I am just noting that they exist.

MEC to decide whether to drop outdoor brands owned by U.S. gun manufacturer - British Columbia - CBC News

Interesting development on the trade bans as MEC tries to decide how to purge its store of American shooting related doo dads.

Also of interest is that MEC has an actual membership of 5 million - which is what the NRA claims to have.

Oddly MEC does not hire legal teams to threaten and intimidate law makers into making certain decisions.
 

Walter

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Gun's on a plane isn't really a good idea. One little hole in the fuselage can rip a plane in half. Tazers might be an option for flight crews though.
We already have air marshals on planes.