The Tarriff Hype.

[B00Mer]

For those keeping score:

Colombia caved in 6 minutes.

Mexico caved in under 48 hours.

What’s your guess on when Canada will cave?

Place your bets...

 

[petros]

3PM we will all be Yankees

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886499165301301468

EU style relationship is coming. Live/work no visa, free flowing business investment, zero hors tax, regulations, and same currency etc.

 

[harrylee]

 

[petros]

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Mosquito trench in summer.

 

[Ron in Regina]

What a Fucking Looney Tune.
This has not been a fun day in logistics in the trucking industry.

OTTAWA — Canada has agreed to deploy its $1.3-billion border enhancement plan, along with thousands of frontline personnel to strengthen security on the U.S. boundary in exchange for the White House pausing 25-per-cent tariffs for at least 30 days.

Trump said in a statement he was “very pleased with this initial outcome” and that the issue of an economic deal with Canada would be revisited after 30 days.

This should be a real wake up call for Canada to diversify away from America as much as possible (we can never fully decouple). For the next real government that comes in (sooner the better), we need to be hammering pipelines both directions across Canada, a complete workaround Eastern Canada having to rely on line 5 in Michigan, and diversify away from the USA as much as possible so that we will never be held hostage again like this.

America will always be our neighbour, but eyes wide open now.

 

[petros]

What a Fucking Looney Tune. View attachment 27283
This has not been a fun day in logistics in the trucking industry.

Surprised?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Surprised?

Somewhat, yes.

 

[petros]

Somewhat, yes.

Im thinking it goes beyond border security.

Months ago I said something like "Democrats want to document the 20 million undocumented and Trump wants to deport them. Either way 20 million people need to be rounded up."

Its 40 below and I dont give fuck, gotta heater in my truck and we're off to the rodeo.

We have our own 5 million to wrangle.

 

[petros]

 

[Ron in Regina]

Im thinking it goes beyond border security.

Oh, I’m listening, & it definitely has more to do with more than the excuse of border security, be it fentanyl or migrants, illegal or otherwise. Trump said in a statement he was “very pleased with this initial outcome” but also noted that the 30-day period was “to see whether or not a final Economic deal with Canada can be structured”.

Opposition Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has called on Trudeau to send military troops, helicopters and surveillance to the border, something that Gen. Jennie Carignan, Canadian Forces Chief of the Defence Staff, has said she was prepared to do. Huh….& somewhere in this forum, somebody proposed the same thing months ago, & to dump money from defunded nonsense programs right into our military, and then deploy our military to secure our border…& that would also get us that much closer to a minimum of 2% of our GDP for military spending…

Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe also suggested there is a role for the military to play at the Canada-U.S. border.

“Right at the border crossing, it is the responsibility of the CBSA and the Government of Canada. And I would say that if they brought that under the military arm, we could have our military present there as well,” Moe told reporters on Monday.

BREAKING: U.S. tariffs on hold 30 days after Canada commits to beefing up border security — National Post

Canada has agreed to deploy its prior $1.3-billion spending plan and nearly 10,000 frontline personnel to the border

apple.news

 

[B00Mer]

EU style relationship is coming. Live/work no visa, free flowing business investment, zero hors tax, regulations, and same currency etc.

Hope so long over due..

Well trade war suspended for 1 month, I still have a job.

That was touch and go..

 

[Ron in Regina]

Opposition Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has called on Trudeau to send military troops, helicopters and surveillance to the border, something that Gen. Jennie Carignan, Canadian Forces Chief of the Defence Staff, has said she was prepared to do.

 

[B00Mer]

 

[Ron in Regina]

Well, this has been absolute bullshit. Canada has made concessions, but what concessions has America made? Are they gonna beef up their border? For an ending flood of people coming across Roxham Road for example…they were coming from somewhere, & I would venture to guess that more drugs are coming into Canada from the US, then from Canada to the US, and the same with guns, etc…

We need to diversify our trade as fast and aggressively as possible. We’re always gonna be vulnerable to the US because of geography, but we could be a whole lot less vulnerable going forward and in the future.

 

[B00Mer]

Well, this has been absolute bullshit. Canada has made concessions, but what concessions has America made? Are they gonna beef up their border? For an ending flood of people coming across Roxham Road for example…they were coming from somewhere, & I would venture to guess that more drugs are coming into Canada from the US, then from Canada to the US, and the same with guns, etc…

We need to diversify our trade as fast and aggressively as possible. We’re always gonna be vulnerable to the US because of geography, but we could be a whole lot less vulnerable going forward and in the future.

Did he though?? As much as I hate Trudeau, he played it well

Government of Canada announces its plan to strengthen border security and our immigration system - Canada.ca

Today, the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc, Minister of Finance and Intergovernmental Affairs, along with the Honourable Marc Miller, Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship and the Honourable Ya'ara Saks, Minister of Mental Health and Addictions and Associate Minister of Health, released...

www.canada.ca

 

[Ron in Regina]

Oh, I’m listening, & it definitely has more to do with more than the excuse of border security, be it fentanyl or migrants, illegal or otherwise. Trump said in a statement he was “very pleased with this initial outcome” but also noted that the 30-day period was “to see whether or not a final Economic deal with Canada can be structured”.

After Canada’s announcement of retaliatory tariffs, Mr. Trump posted a statement on Truth Social that made no mention of the border or fentanyl. “We pay hundreds of Billions of Dollars to SUBSIDIZE Canada,” he wrote. “Therefore, Canada should become our Cherished 51st State.”

Shopify CEO Lütke says Canada’s tariff response ‘the wrong choice’ — The Globe and Mail

Lütke appeared to take at face value Trump’s insistence that he is punishing the country with tariffs because of lax border controls and fentanyl smuggling

apple.news

Migrants & fentanyl where the excuse to use America’s EIEIO Emergency clause, for Trumps economic threats & bullying in advance of negotiating, & renegotiating, trade deals the he signed the last time he was in office.

We need to diversify our trade as fast and aggressively as possible. We’re always gonna be vulnerable to the US because of geography, but we could be a whole lot less vulnerable going forward and in the future.

In a series of statements and videos posted to social media, Poilievre is laying out a clear path to Canadian prosperity that includes not relying so heavily on the American economy. No matter what we do, the United States will always be our biggest trading partner but through laziness, and bad policy decisions, we have become overly reliant on them — and Poilievre says we can fix that.

In responding to the Trump tariff threats, Poilievre not only said we should retaliate on tariffs dollar for dollar, as most politicians said, he also laid out plans for adjusting our economy going forward.

LILLEY: Poilievre charts path forward as Trudeau stumbles — Toronto Sun

Beyond tariffs, Trump is looking to change the American economy. Canada needs to change as well or fall behind.

apple.news

“We must immediately scrap the Liberal anti-energy laws C-69 and green light job-creating projects now. That includes LNG plants, pipelines, mines, factories, port expansions, so that we can get our products to overseas markets without going through and profiting the United States,” Poilievre said Sunday.

This should be a real wake up call for Canada to diversify away from America as much as possible (we can never fully decouple). For the next real government that comes in (sooner the better), we need to be hammering pipelines both directions across Canada, a complete workaround Eastern Canada having to rely on line 5 in Michigan, and diversify away from the USA as much as possible so that we will never be held hostage again like this.

“We are the second-biggest landmass in the world — 41 million brilliant people. The third-biggest supply of oil. The fifth-biggest supply of natural gas, the biggest supply of uranium and potash. We have the biggest supply of fresh water anywhere on earth. The fifth-biggest supply of farmland. We should be the richest nation on Earth,” Poilievre said.

Now we can watch the British, EU, China, BRICS, & everyone else Trump is also currently threatening & bullying react to his tariff threats this week.
I believe that in less that two weeks that he’s been back in office, Trump has opened the eyes of much of the world to diversify away from America as fast as they possibly can so that their threats will have less significance the next time they happen.

Quebec Premier François Legault complained that "what's annoying" about dealing with Trump "is that there's always this sword hanging over our heads."

He believes the events of the last few days emphasize the importance of diversifying markets and limiting Canadian dependence on American exports.

Despite tariff pause, uncertainty hangs over Canadian economy — The Canadian Press

Uncertainty still hangs over the Canadian economy despite U.S. President Dona

apple.news

I’m sure after the last couple of days, this is something the world should be taking to heart.

 

[petros]

After Canada’s announcement of retaliatory tariffs, Mr. Trump posted a statement on Truth Social that made no mention of the border or fentanyl. “We pay hundreds of Billions of Dollars to SUBSIDIZE Canada,” he wrote. “Therefore, Canada should become our Cherished 51st State.”

Shopify CEO Lütke says Canada’s tariff response ‘the wrong choice’ — The Globe and Mail

Lütke appeared to take at face value Trump’s insistence that he is punishing the country with tariffs because of lax border controls and fentanyl smuggling

apple.news

Migrants & fentanyl where the excuse to use America’s EIEIO Emergency clause, for Trumps economic threats & bullying in advance of negotiating, & renegotiating, trade deals the he signed the last time he was in office.

In a series of statements and videos posted to social media, Poilievre is laying out a clear path to Canadian prosperity that includes not relying so heavily on the American economy. No matter what we do, the United States will always be our biggest trading partner but through laziness, and bad policy decisions, we have become overly reliant on them — and Poilievre says we can fix that.
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In responding to the Trump tariff threats, Poilievre not only said we should retaliate on tariffs dollar for dollar, as most politicians said, he also laid out plans for adjusting our economy going forward.

LILLEY: Poilievre charts path forward as Trudeau stumbles — Toronto Sun

Beyond tariffs, Trump is looking to change the American economy. Canada needs to change as well or fall behind.

apple.news

“We must immediately scrap the Liberal anti-energy laws C-69 and green light job-creating projects now. That includes LNG plants, pipelines, mines, factories, port expansions, so that we can get our products to overseas markets without going through and profiting the United States,” Poilievre said Sunday.

“We are the second-biggest landmass in the world — 41 million brilliant people. The third-biggest supply of oil. The fifth-biggest supply of natural gas, the biggest supply of uranium and potash. We have the biggest supply of fresh water anywhere on earth. The fifth-biggest supply of farmland. We should be the richest nation on Earth,” Poilievre said.

Now we can watch the British, EU, China, BRICS, & everyone else Trump is also currently threatening & bullying react to his tariff threats this week.
View attachment 27290I believe that in less that two weeks that he’s been back in office, Trump has opened the eyes of much of the world to diversify away from America as fast as they possibly can so that their threats will have less significance the next time they happen.
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Quebec Premier François Legault complained that "what's annoying" about dealing with Trump "is that there's always this sword hanging over our heads."

He believes the events of the last few days emphasize the importance of diversifying markets and limiting Canadian dependence on American exports.

Despite tariff pause, uncertainty hangs over Canadian economy — The Canadian Press

Uncertainty still hangs over the Canadian economy despite U.S. President Dona

apple.news

I’m sure after the last couple of days, this is something the world should be taking to heart.

Its far simpler. Its the round up and bringing home manufacturing. America is fully capable making its own fentanyl and meth.

Its time for this conversation to continue on a Great American Alien Round Up thread.

 

[justfred]

With old Donnie rescinding his tariffs it gives him time to dream up further tariffs that he can in the next 30 days. He does not give up as he is compelled to get even if he cannot get his way. While he tries to make America more money he does not understand that his business model needs work. Reports from USA are that China have cancelled 680 BILLION dollars worth of sales with the policies that old Donnie and uncle Joe brought in.

 

[B00Mer]

Why are people saying Trump shot himself in the foot..

Every country folded and gave the USA concessions.

1. Columbia are sending their own plans after refusing to take back deportees
2. Mexico sending 10,000 troops to the border, and giving the USA military airspace
3. New border czar, more money on the border, saying cartels are terrorists.
4. Panama cancelled contract with China

Sound like WINNING to me.. Trump won.

USA 4 - 0 Columbia, Canada, Mexico, Panama

There is a new sheriff in town..

 

[Jinentonix]

Why are people saying Trump shot himself in the foot..

Every country folded and gave the USA concessions.

1. Columbia are sending their own plans after refusing to take back deportees
2. Mexico sending 10,000 troops to the border, and giving the USA military airspace
3. New border czar, more money on the border, saying cartels are terrorists.
4. Panama cancelled contract with China

Sound like WINNING to me.. Trump won.

USA 4 - 0 Columbia, Canada, Mexico, Panama

There is a new sheriff in town..

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Nope. Canada still won. We might finally have a govt that takes the border and immigration seriously after the last 9 years. Something the majority of Canadians have wanted for some time now.