The Tarriff Hype.

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Nope. Canada still won. We might finally have a govt that takes the border and immigration seriously after the last 9 years. Something the majority of Canadians have wanted for some time now.

Really, we are still riding the coattails of Uncle Sam and will never do what is really necessary to make Canada independent and build Energy East. We will always be defacto the 51st State.
 

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Really, we are still riding the coattails of Uncle Sam and will never do what is really necessary to make Canada independent and build Energy East. We will always be defacto the 51st State.
Take a good long look at Uncle Sam. Do you want to wake up next to that?
 

Ron in Regina

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With old Donnie rescinding his tariffs it gives him time to dream up further tariffs that he can in the next 30 days. He does not give up as he is compelled to get even if he cannot get his way. While he tries to make America more money he does not understand that his business model needs work. Reports from USA are that China have cancelled 680 BILLION dollars worth of sales with the policies that old Donnie and uncle Joe brought in.
Why are people saying Trump shot himself in the foot..

Every country folded and gave the USA concessions.

1. Columbia are send their own plans after refusing to take back deportees
2. Mexico sending 10,000 troops to the border, and giving the USA military airspace
3. New border czar, more money on the border, saying cartels are terrorists.
4. Panama cancelled contract with China

Sound like WINNING to me.. Trump won.

USA 4 - 0 Columbia, Canada, Mexico, Panama
How many times is this gonna happen consistently without every country he’s threatened or bullied coming up with contingency plans to diversify away from America? Is that a winning strategy?
 

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Really, we are still riding the coattails of Uncle Sam and will never do what is really necessary to make Canada independent and build Energy East. We will always be defacto the 51st State.
Oh we'll build Energy East. We'll cram the pipeline down Quebec's throat if we have to. They don't have a problem with pipelines anyway, it what feeds their refining industry. They just hate the RoC having anything so fuck 'em. If they don't like it, tell them to sign onto the Constitution and then cry about it. Or better yet, we could give Quebec to Donny as a US state and just be fucking done with them.
 
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I would venture to guess that more drugs are coming into Canada from the US, then from Canada to the US, and the same with guns, etc…
Don't be too sure about that. Port of Vancouver is largely unchecked. Precursor chemicals have easy entry to Canada with a government that is fuelling demand. Nobody really knows how much is coming in, or where it goes. What we do know is that the recent busts in BC garnered enough chemicals for everyone in Canada to OD. The official estimate is that they get 10% of illegal drugs, so where are the other 90%? It would be interesting to know how they come up with the 10% figure, too. Then BC is the money laundering capital of the world as well, so there must be a fair amount of trading going on.
 
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How many times is this gonna happen consistently without every country he’s threatened or bullied coming up with contingency plans to diversify away from America? Is that a winning strategy?
Lots of threats and bluster , we Canadians have been talking about diversifying away from America since the time of Pierre Elliot Trudeau , shit we even changed to the metric system to be in line with the rest of the world . How is that working ? 50 years later we are still talking of diversifying away from America .
 

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Old Donnie wants to stop the fentanyl income from Mecico. He has indicated that he is moving 10,000 military to that boarder. Then train them and present boarder officers to check every vehicle, in detail coming from Mexico, even if it takes 5-6 hours. If caught with fentanyl the first 30 years in jail in Alaska, working in the summer to cultivate vegetables for winter, will have some time to reflect on looking for different employment. Once these drug runners find out the rules, nobody gets through, truckers who try to traffic will be weeded out.

Also, make old Donnie know that he is part of the problem, making America great again has allowed their country to afford these drugs, and or what type of people are common in USA that, need the drugs? Maybe if I had to admit that old Donnie was my leader, I would be on drugs TOO.
 

Ron in Regina

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Nope. Canada still won. We might finally have a govt that takes the border and immigration seriously after the last 9 years. Something the majority of Canadians have wanted for some time now.
We didn’t win anything, we were just awakened is all. With a deadline looming, and Trump still dangling an ax over our necks, critics doubt Ottawa's measures will appease Trump, who on Tuesday described the pause of his threat to impose tariffs as a "short-term freeze" after Canada and Mexico agreed to be "very, very strong on the border." Etc…

"Protecting our border is for own good, but it should not be in any way seen as something that's going to appease Donald Trump when it is a made-up claim that there's any serious or significant threat to the United States coming from Canada.”

I really don’t think this is about border security at all (though for ourselves, tightening up our own border isn’t a bad thing), but about leverage to squeeze American allies in trade negotiations.

Speaking to reporters, Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Andrew Furey said the challenge is going to be “that there is such a small flow of fentanyl, specifically, into the United States from Canada that it will be tough to show the president that there’s been a gigantic reduction because there’s not a gigantic start to begin with.”

While Trump has said he was imposing tariffs on Canada over the flow of migrants and fentanyl into the U.S., Trudeau and other Canadian officials have consistently said that less that one per cent of each entering America comes from Canada.
Mark Weber, president of the Customs and Immigration Union, said his members have not been given any indication from the CBSA that their focus, which is on monitoring what's coming into Canada, is changing, and labelled efforts to appease Trump as "border theatre" with a "false premise."

"We have no ability to stop things going into the U.S.," Weber said in an interview. "That's not our job."
“The one consistency of Trump’s trade war is the lack of foresight. This would be easily avoidable if anyone knew what they were doing and proves yet again why our trade policy must come from the Congress,” Rep. Richard E. Neal (Massachusetts), the top Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee, told The Post.
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Trump is managing to unite nations and terrorist organizations to unite in a common voice and being reported upon as if they’re equals, so that’s something…
There just isn’t any instant solution to this ongoing threat posed by an aggressive and often irrational Trump administration that we’re going to have to deal with for the next four years, based on its first two weeks in office alone.

The idea that Canada, the world’s fourth-largest producer of crude oil and fifth-largest producer of natural gas, should voluntarily remove itself from global markets in favour of handing it over to some of the world’s most corrupt dictatorships is irresponsible and economic madness.

As the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers noted in the National Post, oil, natural gas and petroleum products account for one-quarter of all Canadian exports — with the vast majority of it, valued at $150 billion a year, exported to the United States.

Because we lack pipeline capacity to get these valuable resources to tidewater — meaning the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans — from their landlocked territory primarily in Western Canada, we have to sell them at a huge discount to the Americans because they are our only major customer.

That means the Canadian economy is losing tens of billions of dollars every year that could fuel our economic growth at home.
"The good news is that in our conversations over the weekend, one of the things we've noticed is that Mexicans are very, very serious about doing what President Trump said," White House National Economic Council Director Kevin Hasset said on CNBC.

"Canadians appear to have misunderstood the plain language of the executive order," Hasset added.

When asked what Canada and Mexico must do to lift their tariffs, Trump told reporters on Sunday they "have to balance out their trade, number one."
 

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We didn’t win anything, we were just awakened is all. With a deadline looming, and Trump still dangling an ax over our necks, critics doubt Ottawa's measures will appease Trump, who on Tuesday described the pause of his threat to impose tariffs as a "short-term freeze" after Canada and Mexico agreed to be "very, very strong on the border." Etc…

"Protecting our border is for own good, but it should not be in any way seen as something that's going to appease Donald Trump when it is a made-up claim that there's any serious or significant threat to the United States coming from Canada.”

I really don’t think this is about border security at all (though for ourselves, tightening up our own border isn’t a bad thing), but about leverage to squeeze American allies in trade negotiations.

Speaking to reporters, Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Andrew Furey said the challenge is going to be “that there is such a small flow of fentanyl, specifically, into the United States from Canada that it will be tough to show the president that there’s been a gigantic reduction because there’s not a gigantic start to begin with.”

While Trump has said he was imposing tariffs on Canada over the flow of migrants and fentanyl into the U.S., Trudeau and other Canadian officials have consistently said that less that one per cent of each entering America comes from Canada.
Mark Weber, president of the Customs and Immigration Union, said his members have not been given any indication from the CBSA that their focus, which is on monitoring what's coming into Canada, is changing, and labelled efforts to appease Trump as "border theatre" with a "false premise."

"We have no ability to stop things going into the U.S.," Weber said in an interview. "That's not our job."
“The one consistency of Trump’s trade war is the lack of foresight. This would be easily avoidable if anyone knew what they were doing and proves yet again why our trade policy must come from the Congress,” Rep. Richard E. Neal (Massachusetts), the top Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee, told The Post.
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Trump is managing to unite nations and terrorist organizations to unite in a common voice and being reported upon as if they’re equals, so that’s something…
There just isn’t any instant solution to this ongoing threat posed by an aggressive and often irrational Trump administration that we’re going to have to deal with for the next four years, based on its first two weeks in office alone.

The idea that Canada, the world’s fourth-largest producer of crude oil and fifth-largest producer of natural gas, should voluntarily remove itself from global markets in favour of handing it over to some of the world’s most corrupt dictatorships is irresponsible and economic madness.

As the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers noted in the National Post, oil, natural gas and petroleum products account for one-quarter of all Canadian exports — with the vast majority of it, valued at $150 billion a year, exported to the United States.

Because we lack pipeline capacity to get these valuable resources to tidewater — meaning the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans — from their landlocked territory primarily in Western Canada, we have to sell them at a huge discount to the Americans because they are our only major customer.

That means the Canadian economy is losing tens of billions of dollars every year that could fuel our economic growth at home.
"The good news is that in our conversations over the weekend, one of the things we've noticed is that Mexicans are very, very serious about doing what President Trump said," White House National Economic Council Director Kevin Hasset said on CNBC.

"Canadians appear to have misunderstood the plain language of the executive order," Hasset added.

When asked what Canada and Mexico must do to lift their tariffs, Trump told reporters on Sunday they "have to balance out their trade, number one."
It was all aboot Mexico. Mexico took their time.

Why did you fall for the hype? You knew we met spec. You knew we made Homan smile. You knew it was a good chance for pre-election flexing and you knew Mexico was ass dragging. It stank of propaganda from day 1.
 

Ron in Regina

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It was all aboot Mexico. Mexico took their time.

Why did you fall for the hype? You knew we met spec. You knew we made Homan smile. You knew it was a good chance for pre-election flexing and you knew Mexico was ass dragging. It stank of propaganda from day 1.
I personally don’t do threats well. The threat isn’t gone, just postponed until next time, which might be in 28 days, or 28 months, or who knows? We, as a nation, need to get our shit together to do what we can to minimize (comparatively) the ability to be threatened like this going forward.

It won’t be fast, & it won’t be fun, but it’s gotta happen.
 
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I personally don’t do threats well. The threat isn’t gone, just postponed until next time, which might be in 28 days, or 28 months, or who knows? We, as a nation, need to get our shit together to do what we can to minimize (comparatively) the ability to be threatened like this going forward.

It won’t be fast, & it won’t be fun, but it’s gotta happen.
It's gone dude. The threat was gone 6 weeks ago.

Unification. Get adjusted to that and see the light. Trump will make perfect sense once you do.

Globalization died outside Kyiv on February 26 2022.

Slava Ukraini suka!

You're gung ho on levelling Iran. Now you know why you are.
 

Ron in Regina

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It's gone dude. The threat was gone 6 weeks ago.

Unification. Get adjusted to that and see the light. Trump will make perfect sense once you do.

Globalization died outside Kyiv on February 26 2022.

Slava Ukraini suka!
I’ve got 80 trailers (so far at this point) still in the US on top of the normal ongoing flow coming offline that I’ve got to get at least out of the US before this 30 days expires (even if they’re just into holding yards in Ontario), in the event that this isn’t over…so for me, this sure isn’t over…
 
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petros

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I’ve got 80 trailers (so far at this point) still in the US on top of the normal ongoing flow coming offline that I’ve got to get at least out of the US before this 30 days expires (even if they’re just into holding yards in Ontario), in the event that this isn’t over…so for me, this sure isn’t over…
Why panic over nothing unless your smuggling migrants in those trailers.

The round up has begun and the threats are gone.
 

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I’ve got 80 trailers (so far at this point) still in the US on top of the normal ongoing flow coming offline that I’ve got to get at least out of the US before this 30 days expires (even if they’re just into holding yards in Ontario), in the event that this isn’t over…so for me, this sure isn’t over…

Why do you have to get them out of the USA??

What kind of trailers? 53', dry box, refer?

Regardless if more tariffs hit us March 1st, and little secret, if you have refer you're still working..

In a funny thing, but people in Canada still have to eat, so TE bonded trailers from Texas, Arizona and California will still be bring duty free food from Mexico
 
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