Hi Praxius
I understand most of what you said, and to this I can agree.....
“Anyone who ever nails down a date, for the return of Christ, is a false prophet.”
That's not exactly what I was saying, as I wasn't relating to you trying to claim to be a prophet... I was relating to God himself and the Bible we're all "supposed" to follow and the contradictions within the Bible and "His Words."
None of the false prophets throughout history, ever said, that they were “Speculating”. Every time, they nailed down a date, and every time they were wrong.
Of course, we're all still here arn't we? And in the same mentality, if one was true, then the end of time would have already occured, and there wouldn't be anybody around left to call them a prophet.
I did nail down a date, I simply made an educated guess, and I clearly called it “Speculation”.
Well no matter if you claim it to be true or you're just guessing, they're all just guesses and speculations until they actually come true, regardless if you're sure of the date or not.... so to me it's no different then nailing down a date for us to follow or just throwing it out there.
Notice the end of my post........
Oh by the way, today is June 8, 2008, and if we aren’t raptured within the next 17 days or so, then we can put this post away, for another year.
So what are we supposed to do? Continually freak out every June 25th of every year for the rest of our lives until it happens? Doesn't sound very logical and is about as accurate as trial and error.
As with many of my above examples of people claiming to know when the world is going to end, I'll just throw this one on the pile, because I've got more important things to do in my life then to continually worry when some God is going to kill me, when they haven't made their pressence noticed to me in my entire life.... if I screwed up in my life or I did things God doesn't approve of and won't let me into his heaven, then he can suck a lemon (Among many other things) because He hasn't been around to tell me how to properly live, and if he expects me to take my fellow man for his word on what God said (Humans being flawed and influenced with their own perspectives from the get go, including the humans who wrote the Bible).... then he has no position to dictate to me if I lived a good or bad life.
If you don't get involved in something, then you have no say in what occurs.... and this relates to God as well.
But we must always be expecting the Lord to return for us at any minute, so that we will be Ready.
Matthew 24:42
"Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."
Nice to talk to you
no prob... but that above line just sounds like a fearmonger to keep followers in check, to be forever fearful that they're going to either be sent to hell or heaven at any given time in their lives, therefore they are always trying to live based on what they understand in the Bible, continually second guessing their actions, wondering if what they're doing is right or wrong and before they know it, they haven't lived their lives to the fullest in which we're supposed to do, and missed out on a lot of things, based on fear and misunderstanding with no clear answers given besides what another human dictates as their own understanding of what something means, which still isn't the true answer.
All because they have no idea when this rapture is going to occur, so they're always living day by day in fear and repression.... if they give up on the religion, then the Rapture can occur the very next day and thus, even though they followed their entire lives the way they understood they should, that day before it occured they gave up and therefore, they're going to hell.... or purgatory if you will. So they remain in their religion out of fear from the unknown.... to be believing in faith that there's a chance it just might actually happen.
If there is a God in existence, then one would imagine he would want us to experience everything we very well can in our limited lifetimes in which he created. To restrict our experiences of certain things that God created, would be an insult of his creation and thus we'd limit ourselves in our overall understanding of what is surrounding us and then we would never come close to understanding God and his plan overall.
And what kind of life are you living when all you do is pray for your sins, ask for God to forgive you for the bad things you did, to spend the majority of your life worshiping a god you never see or hear from? If I was a God, I sure as hell would throw some lightning bolts up some arses for people doing that to me..... I'd go and tell them to get off their asses and live a little.... heck in my view, that's why they were given a life in the first place.... not to worship and thank me for their life everyday until they die.... I don't need a cheerleading squad, and I imagine God doesn't need one either.
I see it this way: This is our Earth... our planet. We have taken ownership of the Planet and overall, we have accepted responsibility for what occurs on this planet, both good and bad. God has not come down in a long time to "Guide" us, or dictate to us how we should live. We have created the lives and conflicts we now currently have, not God..... everything that is in existence today in relation to our societies has been created by our own hands, not God's.... and if he's got some smart-ass plan to end it all, wipe us all off the planet and devide us up between heaven and hell or whathaveyou.... then he can still kiss my arse.
If we're going to all be destroyed, then it better be by our own hands and by our own consequences of our actions, not by some big arsehole who pisses off for a couple of melinia only to come back and decide enough is enough.... like he's sick of his little grade 6 science project or something that he forgot to keep in check with and went sour.
I don't need a God to tell me how to live my life, and I sure as hell don't need some God to destroy my way of life whenever he deems fit. I have lived my life to the best of my ability as I would expect from anybody else, and if my way of life isn't good enough for him, then he can goto hell himself for all I care.
Come and destroy my Earth will ya? Not on my watch.... Praxius vs. God..... IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!
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