THE RAPTURE, COULD BE COMING AROUND JUNE 25th
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Seeing as time is getting short those planning to leave may find this of use.
Christian service 'sends email from the dead' - Telegraph
Let us know how things get on..........
Christian service 'sends email from the dead' - Telegraph
Let us know how things get on..........
Hi everyone
First of all.....as to why any of us should worship God.
(How about......Because you are here
He created us in His image(body, soul & Spirit), therefore all of us are going to live forever. What a wonderful gift.
And He gave us a free will: (so we wouldn’t be just a bunch of robots). And because of our free will, we choose to sin.
Now this “terrible God”, that many of you have been describing, loves us, and doesn’t want us to destroy our lives with sin.
Therefore He sent His Son Jesus, to die in our place on the cross, to pay for our sins.
Now these are the facts. You can believe them or reject them, it’s your choice. And it’s God that has given you this choice.
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As for not eating in heaven. That is foolishness.
Yes it is true, spirits can’t eat, but we are going to be given glorified bodies, that will be able to enjoy all the pleasures of heaven, including eating and drinking.
As for sex orgies and drunken parties, this is what we go to heaven to get away from.
(No body in their right mind, enjoys these things.)
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As for not posting in the right place, on this sit. I’m okey being here.
First of all.....as to why any of us should worship God.
(How about......Because you are here
He created us in His image(body, soul & Spirit), therefore all of us are going to live forever. What a wonderful gift.
And He gave us a free will: (so we wouldn’t be just a bunch of robots). And because of our free will, we choose to sin.
Now this “terrible God”, that many of you have been describing, loves us, and doesn’t want us to destroy our lives with sin.
Therefore He sent His Son Jesus, to die in our place on the cross, to pay for our sins.
Now these are the facts. You can believe them or reject them, it’s your choice. And it’s God that has given you this choice.
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As for not eating in heaven. That is foolishness.
Yes it is true, spirits can’t eat, but we are going to be given glorified bodies, that will be able to enjoy all the pleasures of heaven, including eating and drinking.
As for sex orgies and drunken parties, this is what we go to heaven to get away from.
(No body in their right mind, enjoys these things.)
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As for not posting in the right place, on this sit. I’m okey being here.
Hi everyone
First of all.....as to why any of us should worship God.
(How about......Because you are here
He created us in His image(body, soul & Spirit), therefore all of us are going to live forever. What a wonderful gift.
And He gave us a free will: (so we wouldn’t be just a bunch of robots). And because of our free will, we choose to sin.
Now this “terrible God”, that many of you have been describing, loves us, and doesn’t want us to destroy our lives with sin.
Therefore He sent His Son Jesus, to die in our place on the cross, to pay for our sins.
Now these are the facts. You can believe them or reject them, it’s your choice. And it’s God that has given you this choice.
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As for not eating in heaven. That is foolishness.
Yes it is true, spirits can’t eat, but we are going to be given glorified bodies, that will be able to enjoy all the pleasures of heaven, including eating and drinking.
As for sex orgies and drunken parties, this is what we go to heaven to get away from.
(No body in their right mind, enjoys these things.)
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As for not posting in the right place, on this sit. I’m okey being here.
I am here because of science...you see the sperm went into my mummy and fertized her egg then 9 months went by and then I was born a miracle? Nope not really just a fact of science.
Pay for our sins? Hows about just learn from them Jesus didn't pay for our sins he threatened the beliefs of others so they killed him. So the STORY goes......
You mention these are facts...how do you know, were you there? What was Jesus saying?did you hear the crowd yell "nail him"?
Religious zealots should put more time into themselves and less time into story telling.
Hi dirtylinder
You said.........
“I am here because of science”
That’s fine: You put you faith in everything that “science” tells you:
-And I will put my faith, in everything the Bible tells me.-
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As I just got through saying......
“Now these are the facts. You can believe them or reject them, it's your choice.”
And how I know them to be facts? (Because of my faith in the Bible
-Because the powerful words in the Bible, are changing my life.-
Because I believe it’s author!
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Also you said.......
“Religious zealots should put more time into themselves and less time into story telling.”
It is true, that if you go about “telling the story of Jesus” to others, you must be living a life that reflects the change that He has made in you.
Hypocrites, really through a monkey wrench, into sharing the Gospel.
You said.........
“I am here because of science”
That’s fine: You put you faith in everything that “science” tells you:
-And I will put my faith, in everything the Bible tells me.-
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As I just got through saying......
“Now these are the facts. You can believe them or reject them, it's your choice.”
And how I know them to be facts? (Because of my faith in the Bible
-Because the powerful words in the Bible, are changing my life.-
Because I believe it’s author!
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Also you said.......
“Religious zealots should put more time into themselves and less time into story telling.”
It is true, that if you go about “telling the story of Jesus” to others, you must be living a life that reflects the change that He has made in you.
Hypocrites, really through a monkey wrench, into sharing the Gospel.
That’s fine: You put you faith in everything that “science” tells you:
-And I will put my faith, in everything the Bible tells me.-
Whatever you want, but the bible is a belief system, science are proven facts.
very different from each other.
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And how I know them to be facts? (Because of my faith in the Bible
you believe they are facts, you don't know, or cannot prove that.
Hi everyone
First of all.....as to why any of us should worship God.
(How about......Because you are here
My being here and existing had nothing to do with God. He has not helped, advised, influenced or flicked a snot in my driection my entire life, My parents brought me into this world and their parents brought them into the world.... If God wants the thanks you claim he should get, then maybe he should get off his lazy ass and do something for a change.
God looks like a Monkey? And just because we might be created in his image, doesn't mean we're going to live forever.... those are two seperate things all together.
I can make an image of myself out of playdoh, and then smash the hell out of it.... it didn't live forever.
All other living creatures have free will too, we're not anymore special then they are, as we all survive on the traits in our DNA.... for us, it is our intelligence... for other animals it can be their instincts, their claws, wings.... etc.... but just because they can't speak english and don't build nuclear bombs, doesn't mean they don't have free will either.
Then why did God create Sin in the first place and gave us the ability to commit "Sin"? He created everything didn't he? He gave us "Free Will" didn't he? Therefore if he gave us free will, then he knew fully well we'd sin, since he also created that as well..... so how the hell does that prove he "Loves" us when he would rather.... here let me use a very good quote to explain it:
John Milton: "Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, fu*kin' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER!"
No, humans didn't like the thought of some guy thinking he was the son of god and dictating to everybody how to live, so they killed him.... kinda like that guy in Wacco.
Don't claim those are the Facts... you can't use the term "Fact" on something you can not prove or test..... oh wait... I forgot... I'm supposed to have "Faith" that those are the "Facts" how silly of me.
Speaking of foolishness, How can you claim he's going to give us "Glorified Bodies that we can eat with" and at the same time admit that the Spirit can not Eat? Isn't our spirit the thing that goes up to heaven when we die and our spirit is the thing in which we become after this life? Or do you mean he's going to give us Super Human Spirderman bodies in heaven that could do more things then the bodies we have now? If that's the case, what would be the point? We wouldn't need one in the first place, because we would be dead and in Heaven.
That's where everybody goes to get away from them? Jesus, and here I am wasting my time not spending my entire life having orgies and drunken parties while I can..... not in heaven? Jeez.. that sounds like hell.... who'd want to go there if that was the case?
What is there to do in Heaven if you can't have wild orgies and drug yourself up..... read books and knit?
So let me get this straight:
We have this entire big universe, planet, environment, people, plants, food, choices, everything at our complete disposal.... everything in which "God" created for "Man" as they say.... and yet we're not supposed to experience everything in which he has created for us because he deems those things as sins or evil, and then when we die we'll have even less to experience except worship God and Jesus for all eternity?
Oh wait.... and read books and knit?
Screw that, God can still lick my sac'de lure.
How do you know the rapture has not already happened and we are the souls left in this eternal hell?
Well if that's the case, then those who went to heaven got jipped.... and that also means that we no longer have to worry about the rapture, and thus there's no foreseeable threat or consequence for any of our actions now in the afterlife since God has already abandoned us.
LET THERE BE GLOBAL ORGIES AND DOPE FOR EVERYONE!!!
ALL HAIL PRAXIUS.... THE NEW SELF-PROCLAIMED GOD WHO WILL LET YOU DO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT!!!!
HAIL!
HAIL!
HAIL!!
In the devil guesture please....
*everyone makes devil horns with their fingers*
HAIL!!
HAIL!!!!
HAIL!!!
Now just the women.....
hail!!!
hail!!!
hail!!!
Now the old guys in the back.... come on... let me hear ya.... OR ELSE!!! *shakes fist*
Ok ok..... you guys look a little winded, never mind....
Wait a minute! If the above is true, then that would mean all these religious people constantly pointing their fingers at us have also been abandoned by their God and they've just been wasting our time and their own!
Let's sacrafice them all to our God!!!
Oh wait, that's me..... Hmmm.... Sacrafice them anyways.
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People who believe so strongly in something that can not be proven to be fact are living in a darker place than those of us who are enlightened enough to know that believing in yourself, family, friends, Mother Earth (it's people) and sometimes the weatherman before any God is more beneficial....we are all here factually...the Bible written by John Smith has nothing to do with me!
And i believe that you are a idiot and this proves it as you fail to answer the question.? Or even debate it instead you in your childish manor choose to Micky take.!!! As you low intellect is unable to comprehend anything other grow up ITCH
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Then we find that as the years pass by less and less people believe in god and the world becomes god less this is exactly what has been fortold will happen ,and half of the people here,all want proof of god before they believe in a god , yet the bible as we know it has been proved time and time again to be true ,things written then 2000 years ago are now being shown to have occurd ,many of the people here who deny there is a god do so because that would mean they would have to become responsible ,and reading half of the comments made i can see that they are the opposite, and are irresponsible, as written in the bible no proof shall be given other then the miracle of Jonas,i think the days of the rapture are getting significantly closer as the building of the third temple proves,the world has become less believing in god unlike before where people would attend church more pray before meals be observant of there actions towards others , all these things are now forgotten, and people would rather worship moneys(baal or Moleck) and rather then celebrating Christ mass tend to worship the presents that they receive , they also love to blame god for things which are born of Satan such as sin .!!!
Re: Things written about in history really did occur? How NOVEL. Should we worship Hitler too? He was also written about and had a following.
Assuming we who disagree with you are irreresonsible because we don't pray before meals or go to church is an opinion and opinions are like A holes, everyone has one.
Heres mine: I believe that being grateful is important, I am grateful that I don't have to sit in a church every Sunday. I am grateful that I get to spend Sundays with my family!
Blaming anything or anyone for my actions? Not me, but eh if you need to go to church to learn how not to do that..have at er!
How assumptious to insinuate that non believers worship presents or money, it is true that most churches seem to....I have been to the Vatican, talk about material it's all about wealth and power...I absolutely love myself for many glorious reasons one is...not being a part of such greed.
What if the churches and true believers (like yourself) were really the Satan of the universe? What if you were so brainwashed that even you didn't realize you were actually working for Satan and sitting in his pews...oh my, what if?
are you talking out of yours now as you have taken all ive said out of context
once again taken out of context as you know perfectly well what im saying ,and that is people work more nowdays to earn a living ,to slave away at there jobs instead of helping one another in the world slaves to there work and the riches that it brings even tough this will not make them happy
I never said you had to another part taken out of context i myself do not go to church any longer as i fail to see how listening to some old fool preaching on to me how i should live does any good ,when i would rather i as i do go out and help people cope with the problems they face in there everyday lives, hands on rather then being told this is how to behave by the church who pratic little of what they preach them selfs
What a bunch of Satan worshipping C**ts that lot are
like i said previously i dont ok
I don't believe in the Rapture as put forth by Christianity.
I am a Christian but believe that as soon as I expire, I will be raptured, do not pass goal, and go straight to Jesus.
There are some here who know what I believe and I am comfortable with what they want to believe to.
But since the question is out there, I felt like responding.
Now, how about this, since the Jews were blinded to Jesus about 29AD, meaning Jesus crucifixion, add 2,000 years to that and we arrive at 2029AD.
Now, there's a target date if you want one, to where the Jews will finally recognize Jesus as their Savior and will change the worlds prescription of them.
The bible speaks of the ark of the covenant and how the nation of Israel carried it to wherever they went.
Well, the ark is a similitude for Jesus by which the Nation of Israel had to carry all these years as a burden.
Refer to the 2,000 years:
Jos 3:4 Yet there shall be a space between you and it, about two thousand cubits by measure: come not near unto it, that ye may know the way by which ye must go: for ye have not passed this way heretofore.
This is a measure of 2,000 years given to Israel double and were not to come near it until the time appointed, for they have not experienced knowing Jesus before that date.
The about two thousand cubits, that is to be between seeing the ark with the Levites bearing it, and the children of Israel removing from their place, and going after it. Is a time period of about 2,000 years: from seeing Jesus as the ark and the Levites bearing him up upon a cross.
I mean, there is no such rapture as perceived, but there is an end to all things in its time.
peace>>>AJ
I am a Christian but believe that as soon as I expire, I will be raptured, do not pass goal, and go straight to Jesus.
There are some here who know what I believe and I am comfortable with what they want to believe to.
But since the question is out there, I felt like responding.
Now, how about this, since the Jews were blinded to Jesus about 29AD, meaning Jesus crucifixion, add 2,000 years to that and we arrive at 2029AD.
Now, there's a target date if you want one, to where the Jews will finally recognize Jesus as their Savior and will change the worlds prescription of them.
The bible speaks of the ark of the covenant and how the nation of Israel carried it to wherever they went.
Well, the ark is a similitude for Jesus by which the Nation of Israel had to carry all these years as a burden.
Refer to the 2,000 years:
Jos 3:4 Yet there shall be a space between you and it, about two thousand cubits by measure: come not near unto it, that ye may know the way by which ye must go: for ye have not passed this way heretofore.
This is a measure of 2,000 years given to Israel double and were not to come near it until the time appointed, for they have not experienced knowing Jesus before that date.
The about two thousand cubits, that is to be between seeing the ark with the Levites bearing it, and the children of Israel removing from their place, and going after it. Is a time period of about 2,000 years: from seeing Jesus as the ark and the Levites bearing him up upon a cross.
I mean, there is no such rapture as perceived, but there is an end to all things in its time.
peace>>>AJ
Yeah. People used to worship all kinds of things. Actually still do. I think I prefer to celebrate life instead of wasting my time worshipping things from someone else's imagination.Hi everyone
First of all.....as to why any of us should worship God.
(How about......Because you are here
Yes, imagination and its products are wonderful gifts.
Speak for yourself, pilgrim.
Loving? According to the Bible, Satan killed 10 people. Your god killed tens of thousands as a result of jealousy, temper tantrums, etc.
Therefore He sent His Son Jesus, to die in our place on the cross, to pay for our sins.
Facts? Facts are provable. This is mere opinion and always has been and always will be.
You people can't even prove your Jesus existed let alone all you mentioned that I've quoted you on.
So if there are bodies in heaven can we take a spaceship there and see what it's like first?
No-one in their right mind likes sex orgies? My wife and I would beg to differ. We have our little sex orgies and enjoy them quite well. No you aren't invited. It's just between the two of us. I would suggest that anyone who doesn't enjoy sex isn't practising it properly.
Really? Instances? Women came from men's ribs? lmao Bushes that talk while they are burning without being burnt? Sorry, this is giving me a severe case of the chuckles.
Again, no evidence? Just your say so? How gullible do you think we are? Perhaps as much as you?
Satan came from your god too, didn't he/she/it? Your god made EVERYTHING, remember? Your god is omniscient and omnipotent, remember? Nothing happens without its say so, remember?
You know, there is a word for things that don't make sense. Wanna know what it is? NONSENSE.
BTW, things of faith are not necessarily factual. Fact simply is. Faith is simply hope that what you believe is true.
Also, about the responsibility thing you mentioned, I am atheist and ulimately responsible for me. (My parents are responsible for my existence and yes, births are miracles, but they are miracles of life; not miracles of superstitious origin). Anyway, being atheist means that I do not believe in gods let alone blame them or give them credit for things. Only people that believe in that nonsense do that sort of thing.
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Around the 25th is not specific enough for me as I wouldn't want to be doing something unimportant and miss the whole dang thing.:-(
Why did you pick June 25th, one day after St. John the Baptist Day?
Why "speculate" on this matter at all???
Is not the calling of every Christian to work towards establishing the Kingdom of God on earth?
That being the case, should we not be about the master's work should he return?
Why "speculate" on this matter at all???
Is not the calling of every Christian to work towards establishing the Kingdom of God on earth?
That being the case, should we not be about the master's work should he return?
The master's work? Praying? Reading the bible? Worshiping?
If it's about helping people, being kind, and no prejudice...I am already doing it.