The Official Contempt for Alberta Thread

petros

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Nationalize or invest fixed income funds like CPP to earn on what Gen Y blows on frivolity and on resources to earn 18% in one stinking year? I can't wait to fully retire to blow my Netflix earnings on casino junkets.
 

mentalfloss

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No, no.

If pipelines are bad for the environment then obviously rail is worse.

Rational people don't forgive one just because it's better than the other though.

That's like saying Conservatives are good because they are better than Liberals.
 

petros

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In other words you know as much about pipelines as you do politics.

You fake, hypocritical greens make me howl.
 

CDNBear

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Rational people don't forgive one just because it's better than the other though.
Rational people recognise that our personal feels don't mean squat when it comes to the fact that we are dependant on oil. It has to get to market. The best way at this point is pipeline. The only way at this point, because of feels, is rail.

Deal with it "Mr I'm for the people".

That's like saying Conservatives are good because they are better than Liberals.
They are better than the Liberals, and the NDP, therefore they are good.

Now please stop authoring idiotic contradictory posts.

You fake, hypocritical greens make me howl.
He just pretends to be green on the net. You and I likely live more green than he does and we drive trucks.
 

grainfedpraiboy

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If pipelines are bad for the environment then obviously rail is worse.

Pipelines properly built and managed have very little impact on the environment. Pipelines are the safest and most environmentally friendly way to move petroleum products. People trying to ban pipelines or even the oildsands have it wrong, their attention and efforts should be directed at changing the behaviour of the consumer and let the market react accordingly.
 

taxslave

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Pipelines properly built and managed have very little impact on the environment. Pipelines are the safest and most environmentally friendly way to move petroleum products. People trying to ban pipelines or even the oildsands have it wrong, their attention and efforts should be directed at changing the behaviour of the consumer and let the market react accordingly.

But then they would have only themselves to blame instead of the Big Bad Corps that force them to purchase kayaks made from petroleum.
 

mentalfloss

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Pipelines properly built and managed have very little impact on the environment. Pipelines are the safest and most environmentally friendly way to move petroleum products. People trying to ban pipelines or even the oildsands have it wrong, their attention and efforts should be directed at changing the behaviour of the consumer and let the market react accordingly.

Lol

No, there are not enough people that have the fortitude to make personal choices that would significantly reduce carbon emissions, just as it is unlikely that corporations will adopt environmental guidelines unless it bolsters profit.

There will be a slow, but necessary transition from fossil fuels to renewables and that will require a price on carbon.

And that price on carbon is inevitable for all provinces, so there is no use in being naive about it and just accept the reality.
 

captain morgan

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You'll need the green technology first, and as we have seen to date, it is hugely expensive and uncompetitive.

In terms of what you refer to as 'the price of carbon', that is code for more taxes... Piss and moan all you like, but the only real emitter of substance is the public at large.

That said, how do you feel a carbon tax will work in already overtaxed Ontario?
 

mentalfloss

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BC is doing just fine and they've implemented a carbon tax already.

Alberta also has a carbon tax but it's not doing so hot right now.
 

captain morgan

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No doubt about that, although the comment on BC is questionable.

On the upside for AB, we may actually qualify as a have-not province... Looking forward to my transfer payment and, btw, I'm still waiting on my petro industry subsidy cheque
 

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mentalfloss

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The policy that reflects the current economic status of that province is not the one that incurred them that prior debt.