The left doesn't want to win the debate. They want to cancel the debate

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regarding our tolerant betters:

Over the weekend, I swung by Judge Jeanine's show to talk about one of the most malign trends of our time: the ever more open refusal by one side to permit those on the other side to speak. As I always say, I don't care what side you pick on the great questions of the age - climate change, gay marriage, Islam, transgendered bathrooms, whatever - but, if you're on the side that says the other guy isn't entitled to a side, you're on the wrong side.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali Tour Cancelled

Citing security issues, the Somalian-born activist calls off her scheduled Australian tour...


Let's just expand that "Somali-born activist" précis a little. She's not a dead white male like me or Charles Murray. As someone once said, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is everything the identity-group fetishists profess to dig: female, atheist, black, immigrant. But, because she does not toe the party line on Islam, her blackness washes off her like a bad dye job on a telly anchorman - and so do her femaleness and godlessness and immigrant status. And in the end she is Charles Murray, or Geert Wilders - or even David Duke. A black Somali woman is, it turns out, a "white supremacist".

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is someone who fled genital mutilation and arranged marriage in a backward, barbarous society to come to the west and live in freedom. Her first stop was the Netherlands. But the director of the film she wrote, Theo van Gogh, was murdered in the street, and the man who shot him then drove two knives through what was left of his chest pinning to it a five-page death-threat promising to do the same to Ayaan. So she was forced to leave the Netherlands, and has lived with round-the-clock security ever since. Now she has to cross Australia off the list, too. Where's next? Can she speak in Sweden? Or Canada? Ireland or Germany? She left Somalia to live as a western woman, only to watch the west turn itself into Somalia, incrementally but remorselessly, at least as far as free speech is concerned.

It began, as it always does, respectably enough. Four hundred Muslim women in Australia - academics, social workers, diversicrats, supposed "human-rights activists" - signed a petition objecting to her tour Down Under but all artfully crafted in the usual weaselly more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger shtick, concluding with:
Australia deserves better than this.
Aww, that's so cute! Did you all tilt your heads in unison and group-furrow your brows into concerned expressions? The petition title's a doozy too:
Ayaan Hirsi-Ali [sic] Does Not Speak For Us

read on kids

https://www.steynonline.com/7740/the-big-shut-up
 

mentalfloss

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The right needs to grow some balls and do something instead of whining like SJWs.
 

Danbones

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naw the right has to realize you can't argue with a sick mind
the left has to realize it's hive is infected
 

Johnnny

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regarding our tolerant betters:

Over the weekend, I swung by Judge Jeanine's show to talk about one of the most malign trends of our time: the ever more open refusal by one side to permit those on the other side to speak. As I always say, I don't care what side you pick on the great questions of the age - climate change, gay marriage, Islam, transgendered bathrooms, whatever - but, if you're on the side that says the other guy isn't entitled to a side, you're on the wrong side.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali Tour Cancelled

Citing security issues, the Somalian-born activist calls off her scheduled Australian tour...


Let's just expand that "Somali-born activist" précis a little. She's not a dead white male like me or Charles Murray. As someone once said, Ayaan Hirsi Ali is everything the identity-group fetishists profess to dig: female, atheist, black, immigrant. But, because she does not toe the party line on Islam, her blackness washes off her like a bad dye job on a telly anchorman - and so do her femaleness and godlessness and immigrant status. And in the end she is Charles Murray, or Geert Wilders - or even David Duke. A black Somali woman is, it turns out, a "white supremacist".

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is someone who fled genital mutilation and arranged marriage in a backward, barbarous society to come to the west and live in freedom. Her first stop was the Netherlands. But the director of the film she wrote, Theo van Gogh, was murdered in the street, and the man who shot him then drove two knives through what was left of his chest pinning to it a five-page death-threat promising to do the same to Ayaan. So she was forced to leave the Netherlands, and has lived with round-the-clock security ever since. Now she has to cross Australia off the list, too. Where's next? Can she speak in Sweden? Or Canada? Ireland or Germany? She left Somalia to live as a western woman, only to watch the west turn itself into Somalia, incrementally but remorselessly, at least as far as free speech is concerned.

It began, as it always does, respectably enough. Four hundred Muslim women in Australia - academics, social workers, diversicrats, supposed "human-rights activists" - signed a petition objecting to her tour Down Under but all artfully crafted in the usual weaselly more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger shtick, concluding with:
Australia deserves better than this.
Aww, that's so cute! Did you all tilt your heads in unison and group-furrow your brows into concerned expressions? The petition title's a doozy too:
Ayaan Hirsi-Ali [sic] Does Not Speak For Us

read on kids

https://www.steynonline.com/7740/the-big-shut-up

The media is more inclined to believe things that people have always assumed to be correct, when those beliefs are truncated, well you get this...
 

Dixie Cup

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Unfortunately, they don't like to hear the truth (because god forbid they might be wrong) and Ms.Hirsi Ali is a very competent woman who not only speaks the truth it but has lived and experienced what she talks about. These other so-called "women" are so totally out of touch and so brain-washed that they don't know that they stand for the opposite of what they think they believe.


I admire this woman greatly as I do others who speak out.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Unfortunately, they don't like to hear the truth (because god forbid they might be wrong) and Ms.Hirsi Ali is a very competent woman who not only speaks the truth it but has lived and experienced what she talks about. These other so-called "women" are so totally out of touch and so brain-washed that they don't know that they stand for the opposite of what they think they believe.


I admire this woman greatly as I do others who speak out.
Sounds like a good reason to take the vote away from them.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Sure. Here's the logic:

These other so-called "women"
So they're not real women.

are so totally out of touch and so brain-washed
I.e., not capable of making a reasonable decision.

that they don't know that they stand for the opposite of what they think they believe.
Again, not competent to cast an informed, intelligent vote.

Ergo, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Nice job of leaving the conclusion to the reader.
 

Danbones

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Wow a strawdog argument
:0
frikin' hillarious

so glad you are on the other side
;)
really
 

taxslave

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Sure. Here's the logic:


So they're not real women.


I.e., not capable of making a reasonable decision.


Again, not competent to cast an informed, intelligent vote.

Ergo, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Nice job of leaving the conclusion to the reader.

That logic would apply to almost every lefty.

The Liberals approve of female genital mutilation.

Only if done by muslims. Not to be performed by white christians.
 

petros

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The left ran a 100 mile race and fell backwards at the finish line and lost all while claiming a win for "trying".
 

Dixie Cup

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Sure. Here's the logic:


So they're not real women.


I.e., not capable of making a reasonable decision.


Again, not competent to cast an informed, intelligent vote.

Ergo, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Nice job of leaving the conclusion to the reader.


Oh, so you took my "so called women" literally. ah. Yes, they are of the female persuasion but sometimes they can fool you and act like a man LOL.


I just meant that you would think they would "identify" with other women who have gone through some really tough times and have lived (aka survived) long enough and have the courage enough to actually speak about their experiences. I mean, after all, women are still low on the totem pole and are discriminated against horribly and don't get paid well etc., etc. Those are the "women" I was referring to mostly. But being "hard done by" they can't see the forest for the trees so individuals like Ms. Ali have no idea what these "women" go through on a day to day basis because living in Canada is simply so hard and unjust! People like Ms. Ali simply don't know what they're talking about.


I know, I know, I should have used the term "humans" instead but then maybe you wouldn't have responded in such a disparaging way right? LOL

Oh, so you took my "so called women" literally. ah. Yes, they are of the female persuasion but sometimes they can fool you and act like a man LOL.


I just meant that you would think they would "identify" with other women who have gone through some really tough times and have lived (aka survived) long enough and have the courage enough to actually speak about their experiences. I mean, after all, women are still low on the totem pole and are discriminated against horribly and don't get paid well etc., etc. Those are the "women" I was referring to mostly. But being "hard done by" they can't see the forest for the trees so individuals like Ms. Ali have no idea what these "women" go through on a day to day basis because living in Canada is simply so hard and unjust! People like Ms. Ali simply don't know what they're talking about.


I know, I know, I should have used the term "humans" instead but then maybe you wouldn't have responded in such a disparaging way right? LOL
Also, I'm not sure where the "voting" part came in - who said anything about women not being able to vote? Talk about making assumptions - huh. I can't but you can. Verrry interestink!