The Flotilla....IDF Actions Validated!

earth_as_one

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RTC: Backing up your points with references to reputable sources is called doing your own research.

I have no problem with Jewish sources of information regarding this conflict as long as they are qualified and objective. Your sources aren't exactly historians.

Here is an example of an article on this subject by a peer reviewed Jewish Israeli historian:
.::JERUSALEM QUARTERLY

MHz: Let me rephrase my comment another way. Its racist to blame an entire group of people for the actions of individuals. That logic applies to Jews, Muslims and any other recognizable group. You should re-evaluate your comments and consider that the overwhelming majority of Jews and Muslims in Israel and the Occupied Territories want peace, freedom and justice. I support holding all criminals accountable for their crimes. But I am against punishing innocent people because someone who claims to belong to the same faith is a criminal.
 
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Goober

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The personal attacks need to stop. Calling someone "fart face"? Really? That's just childish.

Not to start an argument but fart face is quite mild compared to what has been on many threads. So childish is a matter of opinion, it is quite mild when compared against other posts as I have mentioned.

It is also a very very old and well used Army term. It can be used in either way as an insult or as humor.
 

CDNBear

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There seems to be a very strong correlation between the right and fighting "anti-semitism".

Hmm.. I wonder why that is... Hmmm...
I'm 'left' and I fight the usual Jew hating suspects at every turn.

Are you trying to use a UN document as an authority to counter the authority of a UN document? Hmm, it's hard to decide who is right in this situation. Is it the UN or the UN?
I tried using quotes from actual international law, but facts aren't what the usual suspects run on.

The old "attack Israel's critics with anti-Semitism" smear. It even has a reference in wikipedia:
Criticism of the Israeli government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You don't criticize the Israeli gov't. You criticize Israel.

Shall I provide thousands of posts as proof?

While some criticism of Israel is based on anti-Semitism, I reject religious based discrimination/oppression.
But you defend a group whose very political platform adheres to a religion and hates using that religion?

I fact that's why I oppose the Zionist state of Israel, which openly practices religious based discrimination, oppression and injustice.
Although Israel is far from perfect, they beat your hero's hands down.

A person's religion is their personal business, not mine. I judge people by their actions, not their race, religion, sex, sexual orientation...
But you defend a group that does, chastise a group that doesn't and think you're morally superior?
 

Goober

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I don't have to know who specifically blocked and shot at ambulances, or who bombed Gaza hospitals or the many incidents listed by every report made by independent humanitarian organization which have investigated this conflict to know that Israelis commit war crimes and crimes against humanity. Canada should condemn all war crimes and crimes against humanity even when Israelis commit them. When war criminals enter Canada they should be arrested, even when they are Israelis. Instead our leaders ignore Israeli war crimes and crimes against humanity and express unshakable support for Israel. I have a problem with these policies.

While few aspects of Israel's embargo of Gaza can be justified as self defense, most aspects of it are crimes against humanity.

I answered your question repeatedly, now answer mine. How does Israel's blockade of Gaza exports like cut flowers and strawberries or and its withholding taxes collected on goods and services entering and leaving Gaza make Israel safer? I see these aspects of Israel's blockade as purely collective punishment.

Also, if people stink up this place with personal attacks I report it, just like I report Spam and other violations of forum rules.

A govt the Israeli's do not like - Really - What would your opinion be if some group promised to kill your whole extended family. Oh yeah, I guess they do not like me and the family. The blockade has been declared as legal. So put a sock in it. Legal regardless of your view - Legal in all the sense of the word.

Now those other questions posed by others.

1 - What Israeli War Criminals is Canada supporting.

2 - Please name their supporters, not just use the word Canada as that implies all 33 million or so are then complicit. Yep even you.

3 - Where have they been indicted for War Crimes.

4 - Weapons would increase to Hamas if the Blockade is lifted - Anyone with an ounce of sense would see that.

I noted you get upset about certain words or phrases. Now please try and answer the quesions or run and hide behind your wifes skirt.
 

petros

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One day, people will be able to figure it out for themselves.

I hope my kids see it.
A semite is a semites is a semite. Perhaps some of the "newcomers from near east and the west" best learn that the Israeli culture is the same as the Palestinian culture.

Islam saved the Jewish Religion from the onslaught of Christians. They have more in common with each other than we do with either.
 

earth_as_one

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How does Israel's export blockade of Gaza producers' cut flowers and strawberries affect the ability of Palestinian militants to smuggle or import arms again? I can't figure out how blocking exports affects imports.
 
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petros

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How does export blockade of Gaza producers' cut flowers and strawberries affect the ability of Palestinian militants to smuggle or import arms again? I can't figure out how blocking exports affects what's coming in.
Arms can maybe be seemingly innocent items. To someone without a chemistry background cement is for building new homes and doing repairs. To someone with chemistry knowledge it is source for making things that go boom.
 

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Arms can maybe be seemingly innocent items. To someone without a chemistry background cement is for building new homes and doing repairs. To someone with chemistry knowledge it is source for making things that go boom.
Do flowers and strawberries go boom?
 

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Flowers and strawberries must be a threat, otherwise the Israeli war criminals wouldn't be so concerned about them.
 

petros

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Flowers and strawberries must be a threat, otherwise the Israeli war criminals wouldn't be so concerned about them.
If we could trust them with fertilizer they could produce more crops but as anybody with a slighest bit of chemistry knows....more things that go boom.

I have an evil lair. It's in the back of the quonset.

Things that go boom can be neat.
 

petros

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I'm going to send a Floatilla to Winnipeg via Wascana Creek, the Qu'Appelle River and Assiniboine River.
A box of condoms, a bottle of Ampicillin and $10 in Canadian Tire money.

Be at the Forks in around two weeks and look for the bright yellow Prestone jug marked "Regina Peace Floatilla ".
 

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How does Israel's export blockade of Gaza producers' cut flowers and strawberries affect the ability of Palestinian militants to smuggle or import arms again? I can't figure out how blocking exports affects imports.

It deprives Hamas of taxes - thus funds to purchase arms. Economy Basics 00.00000001 - Basic course - I achieved 100 % on that test. Guess you failed.