The Eight Worst Mistakes Made by the Allies in WWII

[Blackleaf]

Your version of it certainly is.

Since when has my version been wrong? Since you travelled back in time and changed history?

Unlike you (and this much is obvous) I did the relevant research before I posted.

You obviously didn't, and then you try to tell me I'm wrong.

There is no way you are going to prove me wrong here. I'm fully armed. So I'd give up if I were you before I embarrass you.

 

[taxslave]

Since when has my version been wrong? Since you travelled back in time and changed history?

Unlike you (and this much is obvous) I did the relevant research before I posted.

You obviously didn't, and then you try to tell me I'm wrong.

There is no way you are going to prove me wrong here. I'm fully armed. So I'd give up if I were you before I embarrass you.

Your version of pretty much everything is wrong. But carry on we are all having a good laugh.

 

[Blackleaf]

Your version of pretty much everything is wrong. But carry on we are all having a good laugh.

I'm not carrying on. Unless you show me anything "inaccurate" in what I posted, and then I'll correct you.

 

[taxslave]

i'm not carrying on. Unless you show me anything "inaccurate" in what i posted, and then i'll correct you.

rolflmao

 

[petros]

Blechloaf, you're insane.

 

[DaSleeper]

I'm not carrying on. Unless you show me anything "inaccurate" in what I posted, and then I'll correct you.

 

[Blackleaf]

So nobody can find any "inaccuracies" in any of my posts on this thread?

So what's the problem then?

 

[petros]

We found too many to list.

 

[Blackleaf]

We found too many to list.

So what bit was wrong? The FACT that Germany declared war on the US and started attacking the US, thereby honouring the Tripartite Treaty, because the US declared war on Japan? Was that wrong?

Or what about the FACT that Hitler had been hostile to the US since the early 1930s and that he saw the USA as a racially mixed, and therefore inferior, society and that this was the opposite of his view of Britain because the British are mainly a Germanic race and therefore the Nazis admired the British (and, as he even said in Mein Kampf, their Empire) and saw them as a superior race? Was that bit wrong?

Or was the FACT that between April and May 1942, German U-Boats sank 348 Yank ships in Yank waters, with the Yanks only managing to sink two U-Boats, with them evantually have to call on help from the Royal Navy? Was that wrong?

Which bit was wrong? Because I can't see any wrongness. I just see historical facts which I actually RESEARCHED myself before posting.

It would help if you actually googled each of the facts which i have posted in order for you to see that I'm right.

 

[lone wolf]

It would help if you didn't get into a Brit snit when challenged

 

[Blackleaf]

It would help if you didn't get into a Brit snit when challenged

It'd help if someone told me what was wrong instead of keep posting silly comments.

Of course, we all know the reason why they can't point out any inaccuracies.

 

[petros]

So what bit was wrong?

We found too many to list.

You need to do some googling. LOTS of googling.

 

[lone wolf]

It'd help if someone told me what was wrong instead of keep posting silly comments.

Of course, we all know the reason why they can't point out any inaccuracies.

Perhaps a wider view might be of assistance....

 

[talloola]

the first mistake made was 'showing up at all'.

'what if there was a war, and nobody came', thank you john lennon, i'll never forget.

 

[JLM]

You really need to wake up and smell the coffee, instead of keep coming out with romantic claptrap.

Germany declared war on the United States (which you always seem to keep forgetting) and after they did so they started torpedoing Yank ships in Yank waters, even within sight of cities such as New York and Boston.

Between April and May 1942, German U-Boats sank 348 Yank ships in Yank waters, with the Yanks only managing to sink two U-Boats.

In fact, this represented a QUARTER of all wartime sinkings - 3.1 million tons.

Careful Blackleaf, you're starting to "change your tune", suggesting them backwood Canadian savages actually contributed to winning the war...............not just you can a couple of your buddies! -

#9- Paying the slightest attention to Neville Chamberlain.

 

[Goober]

Since when has my version been wrong? Since you travelled back in time and changed history?

Unlike you (and this much is obvous) I did the relevant research before I posted.

You obviously didn't, and then you try to tell me I'm wrong.

There is no way you are going to prove me wrong here. I'm fully armed. So I'd give up if I were you before I embarrass you.

Since when you ask has your version been wrong - Just about every time you post on the War- it would be every time, but it is remotely possible you got one post right.

 

[WLDB]

Biggest mistake was America getting involved in the European war.

There wasnt really much they could do to avoid it when Hitler declared war. Well, not unless they cut off all supplies to Britain.

Again, that's not true. As early as December 1939, the British and New Zealanders were defeating the Germans in battles such as the Battle of the River Plate off the coast of Argentina and Uruguay, the first naval battle of WWII and the only part of the war to take place in South America.

The battle saw three Royal Navy cruisers - HMS Exeter, HMS Achilles and HMNZS Ajax (part of the New Zealand Division of the Royal Navy, which later split from the RN and became the New Zealand Navy) - sustain critical damage to the Admiral Graf Spee. The battle saw 72 British Empire sailors killed and 36 German sailors killed, but it was a British victory.

True - but those battles took part far away from Europe and had no major impact on the German war machine. Attacking Germany itself on land would have been a lot more useful than sinking a single battleship thousands of miles away. The Germans were unprepared in the west at that time. They chose to sit back and wait for the Germans to come to them rather than taking the fight to the Germans.

#9- Paying the slightest attention to Neville Chamberlain.

Indeed. That guys inaction was disastrous.

'what if there was a war, and nobody came', thank you john lennon, i'll never forget.

Unfortunately there is always at least one side ready to show up. So long as that happens the other side has to as well or just surrender to their enemies.

 

[Blackleaf]

You need to do some googling. LOTS of googling.

I've done the research.

You haven't.

 

[JLM]

Which bit was wrong? Because I can't see any wrongness. I just see historical facts which I actually RESEARCHED myself before posting.

It would help if you actually googled each of the facts which i have posted in order for you to see that I'm right.

With your recent history of correctness or lack thereof on this forum, that last statement is sadly in doubt which I think many here can attest to. -

 

[Blackleaf]

There wasnt really much they could do to avoid it when Hitler declared war. Well, not unless they cut off all supplies to Britain.

As I've already said - and I'm fed up with repeating myself, so hopefully it'll get through this time - the Germans had a Tripartite Agreement to abide by, and as long as the US was fighting the Japanese the Germans had to help their Japanese allies and fight the Americans.

And you and the ludicrous Tecumsehbones' wish that America - a country which supposedly sticks up for freedom and democracy around the world - bribed the most heinous, evil and despicable regime in history by cutting off supplies to a US ally, one which millions of Americans have family ties to, just so the US could get out of fighting that heinous, evil and despicable regime is just a sorry and cowardly state of affairs.

True - but those battles took part far away from Europe and had no major impact on the German war machine. Attacking Germany itself on land would have been a lot more useful than sinking a single battleship thousands of miles away. The Germans were unprepared in the west at that time. They chose to sit back and wait for the Germans to come to them rather than taking the fight to the Germans.

You're just trying to get around the fact that I proved wrong the comment that the Allies did nothing for eight months.

By the way, after the Battle of the River Plate, the new town of Ajax, Ontario was named after HMS Ajax. Many of its streets are named after Admiral Harwood's crewmen on Ajax, Exeter and Achilles.

Indeed. That guys inaction was disastrous.

Yeah. And at the same time, of course, the US president had ordered American troops to get stuck in, hadn't he? As early as 1936 the Yanks were up to their necks in muck and bullets whilst the cowardly British appeasers stood idly by.

Nah, we all know that the opposite is the reality and that the Yanks appeased the Germans for far longer than the British did until, disastrously for the Yanks, the Germans suddenly appeared on their doorstep and sank hundreds of their ships.

You cannot complain about British "appeasment" of Hitler - which was nothing of the sort, merely a way for Britain to rearm enough to fight the Germans - whilst the US undertook a policy of real appeasment and for a longer period of time, which you wish the US had stuck to. It's blatant hypocrisy. The US Sentate was determined to do nothing to stop Hitler. American industrialists such as Henry Ford and Irenee du Pont actively financed Hitler. And America still didn't go to war with Germany even when it broke out. How's that for appeasment?

As Chamberlain said to his Cabinet in October 1938: "It would be madness for the country to stop rearming until we were convinced that other countries would act in the same way. For the time being, therefore, we should relax no particle of effort until our deficiencies had been made good."

So as early as 1938 the British were preparing for war with Hitler.