I know that.;-) What I meant was that it probably won't be a huge increase. And who knows? Perhaps he is using his neighbour's electricity to power his marijuana crop.;-):lol:
The earth Hour is back!
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I know that.;-) What I meant was that it probably won't be a huge increase. And who knows? Perhaps he is using his neighbour's electricity to power his marijuana crop.;-):lol:
WWF approves of green agriculture!
That is due to the fact that it mellows them out.;-):lol:
I had a second look at the data posted here and all that is to be found is propaganda by wwf....hardly unbiased;-)
even on the internet I couldn't find anything from ontario hydro for last year or previous years....
even on the internet I couldn't find anything from ontario hydro for last year or previous years....
Quite so. Talk of cutting off one's nose to spite somebody. They are the ones who will have to pay for higher usage. And they think that gave it in the neck to Earth Hour.
Perhaps we should have Earth Hour where we switch off heating for one hour. Then watch all these yahoos putting the heat up to 90 or 100 degrees in response to that, and swelter in heat, sweating like a stuck pig. But hey, they will have given it in the neck to Earth Hour. Or maybe they will crank up the heat to 100 degrees and put on air conditioning. That will really send a message to earth hour.
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And what has that got to do with anything? They said that it was cooler this year compared to last year, so heating usage was higher this year. That accounts for the lower drop this year. The absolute number is not really important. The fact is that many people participated in Earth Hour, in spite of some conservative hysterical anti-environmental voices here.
LW you are wasting your time and so am I...the guy has a reading problem...the link I posted compares the usage with another saturday night with similar overall temperature...
And by the way my heating bill this winter is much lower than last year....it's a wonder his is higher with all the hot air coming out:lol:
I found this by using the search function on IESO's webpage, the graph for Earth Hour 2009.
Compare that to Earth Hour 2010:
It's clear that the predicted energy consumption was very different.
Coincidentally, IESO also has some market research if you search their website, asking Ontarians about what they plan to do, during Earth hour, and what they can do about energy efficiency. If people are already implementing energy saving measures as a result of previous Earth hours, or otherwise, then the yearly gains on one day would be expected to be less.
Thanks Toni when I tried accessing some sites through google two different sites tried to upload some malicious script on my computer so I said Fock it ...but those screen shots confirms what my friend at the power station up north told me.
I missed my chance last summer ...they put one of them power saver meters while I was out of town...I could have had a receiver inside the house to be able to monitor power usage...but they will soon implement a schedule when you can dry your clothes and other high energy use equipment during off peak hours for cost saving.
Right now that option is only available to industry.
The paper mill here uses certain high power draw machinery only during off peak hours ......Although the paper machines run 24 hrs
I hear that option will be available to everybody soon.....maybe they have it down south already..
Nice options to have. I doubt PEI has that, though I haven't looked into it. Most of the power on the Island comes from NB anyways. Jamie and I use the clothes drier most often after midnight. She's not in bed til late anyways, she's an owl...lol
In Ontario they actually had to overturn city bylaws so people could hang laundry on clotheslines.
With all that neat fancy electronic equipment you can plan better...my thermostat turns the the heat down 2 celcius degrees at 11pm and turns it back up at eight am....that power meter they installed can be red from the hydro office 80 miles away (no more meter readers) and my gas and hydro bill com online I have comparison charts for only two years since they only started that the winter of 2009.
Were only starting to have the tools for intelligent cost saving...(or energy saving if you're an environmentalist):lol:
Were only starting to have the tools for intelligent cost saving...(or energy saving if you're an environmentalist):lol:
That is why I say that one hour a year is just a (feel good) thing for city folks that is just a spit in the ocean..... while some of us do it all year around albeit to save money, but we still do it........
Well you got one thing kinda right. Human beings do come first. I will (and have) kill a chicken and eat it. Wouldn't dream of doing that to a human. I will swerve into traffic to avoid hitting a child. Won't do that for a dog. I'll try to avoid it, but not to any extent that would involve property damage to me.
And you sort of got it right in saying that conservatives support very few environmental initiatives. That's becasue most initiatives are political and only masquerade as environmental.
:lol: Is everyone keeping up with SJP's unilateral revising of the definition of "environmental"? Have the dictionary publishers been notified? Has Wiki been updated? Have the environmental activist groups been told to modify their activities to conform to the new paradigm?
What a pathetic attempt to maintain your illusiory view that conservatives don't care about the environment.
I'm very much in favor of conservation of endangered species. I'm very much opposed to taking an act that is supposed to protect endangered species and using it to further political goals.
Try one of those timer thingies?
Energy Savers: Install a Timer and Use Off-Peak Power for Electric Water Heaters
http://www.nextag.com/electrical-timer/stores-html
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