The Bible. Myth or Reality?
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I started reading the book when I was about 35. Don't you wish it was you as God seems to have left you high and dry. You going to blame God for that or admit you get what you deserve. You slam Him and the book at every opportunity and then bitch that your spiritual life is a vast desert where nothing grows, let alone knowledge.
Very little. Like if you wrote a book on an alien invasion and put it in New York.
New York would be the only real thing.
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DL
I think all the so called holy books are intentionally written to encourage debate and that is why they put so many contradictions in them.
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Why would a book be 'proof'? What you get from the book (or not) is a 'story', for most people it is not a very seamless one.
However, if you do look at is as literal and part are in the future then you should start looking at it from the perspective that is covers the beginning of the Universe billions of years ago and goes millions of years into the future from where we are today.
I don't have any more proof that God exists than you do, however a book like that just cannot be written by 40 different people over 1,000's of years, let alone have it be a big mystery to almost all that read it. (thank the current clergy for that) If you want proof they are intentional liars go over the Gospels and see if you can identify who the Beloved Disciple is. If that is too big of a task for anybody then the flaws are in them and not the book.
What kind of owner doesn't get greeted with a wagging tail all the time. Let me guess, said dog runs and hides when he smells scotch on his breath.You are God. You have just forgotten. You will remember some day in some other time and place. That is the purpose of life here in hell.
Not unless you have dog chews in your pocket I bet.
I do not quite agree but do agree when considering how people read it.
It is a great book on morals in the sense of learning what not to do. The God of the O.T is shown as an evil demiurge yet Christians somehow see that prick as a good God. Therein lies the evil of the bible and why it should be burned.
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DL
You figured out why there are multiple versions of the same text, you still haven't figured out the 'stopry' the 1611KJV tells so your blindness is of your own doing. Don't go blaming anybody but yourself for that. There is a prize for coming in last also so don't be too discouraged.
Joh:4:48:
Then said Jesus unto him,
Except ye see signs and wonders,
ye will not believe.
Big mystery!
Only to those who cannot discern good from evil.
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
Dawkins would be a Gnostic Christian if he was not an atheist.
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DL
I am not an atheist pal. I just do not believe B.S.
If you see a moral God in the bible you should let us all in on just where in scriptures he is hiding.
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DL
Infidel mean a person who doesn't believe in God. Heathen is the term in the Bible, not much difference but good luck in getting the stories right if this isn't taken into account. How many Christians say that Islam is calling them an infidel when both religion support the same God in both books? Being stupid is one thing, getting more stupid as you get older is a sign you are on the wrong path.
Apparently, not willing to put in any name as you couldn't come up with one. Why should I take that as a sign that you have put in a lot of work trying to understand something that fits the therm 'complex'. If I can come up with a name and explain why it works out that it could only be one person then I must have something you don't.
How come the most evil people in the world are in a position that they could be the most generous and they call the 'have nots' the evil people and they put in a great deal of effort.
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Which nobody can deny. Today those are the qualifications of the crooks that run the world, the ones that buy the books he publishes so he is making money off the topic of God. You should have seen him get set up on some flim-flam show when a Jewish lady said 'We believe the OT because it is the truth.' (without adding they have no clue as to whhat it actually says once you start to question them as it goes from a myth to being the 'permission' to take some land for themselves.
He couldn't make it in his chosen field so he writes about the one issue that totally baffles him. Not the best hero you could have picked, try using something you came up all on your own.
Bible Story? Nobody said you had too, however the 'lack of proof' is in the doubting Thomas story and if you base the lack of proof on anything but that you are outside of what the book promotes so using that as the reason to reject it has all the fault being in your corner.
Don't worry about it, 2/3 of the planet is supposed to be in your corner. Why do you not find that comforting?
I have several times, if you can't find it in Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22 then pouring over the rest of the book isn't going to help you as it is all about death as that is what Ge:3:15 is about.
GOD IS HOLY SOUL and you can't perceive him because you are limited and God is unlimited so don't try to prove God , try to feel him in yourself
I do not slam the Creative Force, I don't even slam the bible. What I object to is people who mistranslate and misinterpret ancient texts by trying to apply them to today and their interpretation of who and what god is (their god). It is neither a universal god nor a loving god. They (you) are glorifying a deranged psychopath when nothing could be farther from the truth. I have my own relationship with the Creator and just because it isn't the same as yours, doesn't mean I am an atheist. The bible is not what you say it is and neither is your view of god.
So on a quick read of the NT would you say the concept below sums the NT up. Just as Paul would clear up some issues when he came back to a specific group Christ will do the same. The NT is great for getting the info that there is 'a plan' but it doesn't give you any of the fine details.
I'm sure you did, I was referencing the reading as a study kind of reading where you look in 'the back' for a subject and then explore what the books says about that same subject. I would hesitate to say you do that today but it is more common than not that most 'Bible Students' don't us that approach. I was also in Church on Sunday and in the school they had after. Other than a return was in store we certainly didn't cover 25 references to 'the day of the lord' and what it means when just those references are used. Be happy to listen to your view on this and what they would conclude it means. An e-bible would be considered a 'study aid' these days and most Periests would probably call it the 'devil's tool' for as much as it embarrasses them.
I seriously doubt your version of the flood is going to be stronger than my opinion of what the 'story' relays to 'the audience'. If His return is mostly a surprise then the odds are quite high that most have a flawed version of what info the book holds. That isn't apparent until a subject is actually on the table.
My flood version had the water needed to cover the land to a dept of 22ft would lower the ocean by 1/4 of that. The 'rain' that fell on the 'high hills and mountains' fell as snow and that is why it stayed in place for 150 days after it stopped 'raining'. That is the version a man of 35 would conclude after reading the story, you care to compare the version you got at 14 (from others)?
O Jehovah, the land of fine meal, knead it, and spotted among men; and maid-servants and all the daughters of the night; and thy servants.
And God suffered I given me from Rameses to pass, that shall inherit the third generation: the first is born ye eat every beast of the men of Ishmael, and his sons buried in the God five years: and your occupation? that she bare up Joseph of the locusts into Pharaoh's horses, and take a reproach unto Abraham, and thy kindness that which he saw thetouched the souls of thy houses, out his host.
And he was afraid: for I brought thee alive.
And Moses and he overtook them out of Gilead.
And he shall be unto Pharaoh charged him.
And Pharaoh shall not spare the fountain.
And he said, I will my life also was lifted up early in their goods, and he cast her pitcher upon the whole land in your count for God spake with him?
And Jehovah fighteth for straw. And they did all his name of the staff. And he opened every place of God ascending and for Rebekah.
And God suffered I given me from Rameses to pass, that shall inherit the third generation: the first is born ye eat every beast of the men of Ishmael, and his sons buried in the God five years: and your occupation? that she bare up Joseph of the locusts into Pharaoh's horses, and take a reproach unto Abraham, and thy kindness that which he saw thetouched the souls of thy houses, out his host.
And he was afraid: for I brought thee alive.
And Moses and he overtook them out of Gilead.
And he shall be unto Pharaoh charged him.
And Pharaoh shall not spare the fountain.
And he said, I will my life also was lifted up early in their goods, and he cast her pitcher upon the whole land in your count for God spake with him?
And Jehovah fighteth for straw. And they did all his name of the staff. And he opened every place of God ascending and for Rebekah.
Apotheosis. Been there and done that and holy is not a word I would use. That is a term given by people and most people are wrong to use it.
You make a claim that God is unlimited. You are morally obliged to prove your statement.
Do so and contradict all those who say that God is unfathomable and unknowable.
If you cannot then recant the way a moral person would.
You do not want to be seen as just another lying priest or imam. Right?
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DL
