The 2006 Murder of Canadian Forces Major Paeta Hess-Von Krudener

[earth_as_one]

Its pretty hard to prove or disprove an answer like "Sgt, 22nd, 3rd Bat" unless you also served in the same regiment.

CB doesn't have to answer G's question, but I don't have to believe what someone claims about themselves either. Without something more convincing I remain skeptical about CB's claims.

 

[einmensch]

He hasn't responded because he already did previously..........and/or he sees no reason to have to justify himself to you guys.......manners would, after all, demand you accept what he says he is......unless you have some solid evidence to the contrary.

YA! don't be mean to CNB-he is one of Colpy's brothers--so nice of you colpy to stick up for the teddy-full of it or not-

 

[Goober]

He hasn't responded because he already did previously..........and/or he sees no reason to have to justify himself to you guys.......manners would, after all, demand you accept what he says he is......unless you have some solid evidence to the contrary.

Colpy

When you make statements that you are something it is not hard to prove at times, not all the time but in this case – not hard – Cdn Bear states that he is well known as being ex military on other forums – so why is this different? You are correct he does not have to reply as he believes he has answered, just as I believe he has not -

But when I read a statement from the Bear posted below– It smells and stinks to high heaven:

“Canadian Forces and the rest has been posted before. But I've been in close quarters with the IDF, as well as Syrian and Jordan Forces. I agree that the IDF have a bit of a disdain for the UN. It does occasionally transfer to UN Troops.”

UN troops were constantly harassed by Israel – they want documented incidents to show that the UN is not impartial –

Friends of mine in the Mid East on UN tour when being under rifle fire – info relayed all the way back to New York that troops under fire – and the UN Officer in New York’s typical response was how close were they landing – 2 or 3 feet from the soldier did not count and returning fire was denied. Just some little known facts – and at that time a common occurrence.

 

[Colpy]

Colpy

When you make statements that you are something it is not hard to prove at times, not all the time but in this case – not hard – Cdn Bear states that he is well known as being ex military on other forums – so why is this different? You are correct he does not have to reply as he believes he has answered, just as I believe he has not -

But when I read a statement from the Bear posted below– It smells and stinks to high heaven:

“Canadian Forces and the rest has been posted before. But I've been in close quarters with the IDF, as well as Syrian and Jordan Forces. I agree that the IDF have a bit of a disdain for the UN. It does occasionally transfer to UN Troops.”

UN troops were constantly harassed by Israel – they want documented incidents to show that the UN is not impartial –

Friends of mine in the Mid East on UN tour when being under rifle fire – info relayed all the way back to New York that troops under fire – and the UN Officer in New York’s typical response was how close were they landing – 2 or 3 feet from the soldier did not count and returning fire was denied. Just some little known facts – and at that time a common occurrence.

I don't see where CDN Bear disagrees with that....he simply does not put the same emphasis on it that you do.......and if your friends came under fire from the IDF they were probably in a different place at a different time than when Bear served.....I stand on my point that it is an issue of manners....one does not casually accuse another of being a liar, especially on the issue of who, and what, they are.........

As for the IDF and the UN.....well, the UN ain't exactly Israel-friendly, just in case you missed the news over the past 20 or 30 years.........like the Nuremburg-type Rally held in Durban in 2001....etc.

 

[Goober]

I don't see where CDN Bear disagrees with that....he simply does not put the same emphasis on it that you do.......and if your friends came under fire from the IDF they were probably in a different place at a different time than when Bear served.....I stand on my point that it is an issue of manners....one does not casually accuse another of being a liar, especially on the issue of who, and what, they are.........

As for the IDF and the UN.....well, the UN ain't exactly Israel-friendly, just in case you missed the news over the past 20 or 30 years.........like the Nuremburg-type Rally held in Durban in 2001....etc.

Colpy – I did not accuse him of lying – I asked to put up some proof – because his statements just did not have a good ring for me – Not EAO – but for me – There is a difference –
As to the UN – it is mostly useless and definitely Anti-Semitic – How Canada can sit on the Human Rights and not stand up and publicly state that the commission is biased and resign – And the rest of the Democratic countries few that are on it should do as well – Miss Arbour was a waste of rations -

 

[earth_as_one]

Saying I'm skeptical of CB's claims isn't the same as accusing him of being a liar. It means the jury is still deliberating.

 

[lone wolf]

Saying I'm skeptical of CB's claims isn't the same as accusing him of being a liar. It means the jury is still deliberating.

A man's personal life is his own. No matter how he cares to talk it up or talk it down is a matter for his own conscience. None of us are God....

P.S.... Same goes for the ladies....

 

[Zzarchov]

You have my word I won't harass CB provided he answers your questions honestly. Even if he admits to having exaggerated about having served in the Canadian military he gets amnesty as far as I'm concerned.

But if gets caught in a web of lies...

This is utter crap. What Proof is there Goober served in the Military, hell you gonna call me a liar for my time served too? You only care because his claim contradicts what you want to hear. And for the record, no disrespect to Goober for his time served or any claims that he's being untrue.

Just because served in the military doesn't mean we are idiots. You want us to post our name and ranks? Maybe our birthdate and social security number too? Hell why not our full mailing address and atm PIN so we can save some people some time and money.


Is your legal name Mr. Earth A. One , of the Toronoto One's?

For christs farking sake, this is utterly insulting and ridiculous.


But hey, how about you post all of your personal details online too. See what scam artists and lunatics from this forum pester you at home,

And we've had nutballs here pester people before.


It may be tough to imagine, but the other posters here are human beings, not puppets to dance to the string.

Lots of people in this country have served in the military, and there are probably many more on this site who just don't tell people they were in the military for obvious reasons that you are now exemplifying, you are either a dirty a liar or recieving hate mail for killing babies in Afghanistan.

 

[Goober]

This is utter crap. What Proof is there Goober served in the Military, hell you gonna call me a liar for my time served too? You only care because his claim contradicts what you want to hear. And for the record, no disrespect to Goober for his time served or any claims that he's being untrue.

Just because served in the military doesn't mean we are idiots. You want us to post our name and ranks? Maybe our birthdate and social security number too? Hell why not our full mailing address and atm PIN so we can save some people some time and money.


Is your legal name Mr. Earth A. One , of the Toronoto One's?

For christs farking sake, this is utterly insulting and ridiculous.


But hey, how about you post all of your personal details online too. See what scam artists and lunatics from this forum pester you at home,

And we've had nutballs here pester people before.


It may be tough to imagine, but the other posters here are human beings, not puppets to dance to the string.

Lots of people in this country have served in the military, and there are probably many more on this site who just don't tell people they were in the military for obvious reasons that you are now exemplifying, you are either a dirty a liar or recieving hate mail for killing babies in Afghanistan.

Zzarchov
Why there is no proof what so ever that I ever served – and that is what I stated earlier – Now if people feel that I was to up front by asking for some idea that he served, well that is what I did, no apologies for it –

Are you referring to me as a nutball or EAO? As I prefer the term Nutbar myself – another Army term as you know full well – same as Numpty – another Army term – we can throw these around all day.

Now you would also be familiar with the term Goober as it is used in the Army as well – It can be considered when used either condescending or as a backhanded compliment – That is why I choose the specific moniker.

Yes I know that EAO is possibly more pro Hezbollah/Hamas – Both of whom I consider terrorists and as far as I am concerned the more they take out the better –

I am Pro Israeli myself – But the post where the Major was stationed was deliberately targeted – that is the crux of the disagreement which some have seen fitting to forget – A fine man died that day and it was murder – a War Crime in fact – But then again I was just a dumb ass 911 trade – what would I know? The truth is the correct answer – and not the BS the Cdn Bear was telling – It seems that fact has gotten lost as people take sides with attacks against each other – that often happens – the truth gets set to the side –
So is it the truth you are interested in or not?

 

[Zzarchov]

By Nutball I refer to some of the people who have taken grudges from this forum off it, and harassed some of the members of this forum, scroll through the archives you'll see a few gripes about it.

It was not an insult directed at either your not EAO, who despite his naive nature (in my opinion) is not one to do ill unto others.

 

[CDNBear]

Thanx to those that had my back on this. I would have said 'six', but that would have been taken as an attempt to look Army. :roll:

And for the record, those that know me and know me well. Know that I've been more then willing to discuss my service. In private. I have a distinctive name. I post else where on the net, with open private information. I've been through two bought's of the internet interfering in my real life. Some members of this forum, including two Mods witnessed that first hand. If I so chose to put my entire service record out here. It would be far to easy to pin point me else where out here and accumulate enough info to piss me off in real life...No thanx, I'm not up to speed at the moment. It is as simple as that. That's not an opinion, that is a fact. If that isn't good enough for you, I just don't give a ****.

My presence in Golan Heights was a stop on an assigned detail, as were many other places in both Europe and the Middle East. It was my pleasure to meet IDF Officers, NCO's and Troopers. Not once was I made to feel out of place. Yes, they had sharp words for the UN, and rightly so. They also had issues with Soldiers from other Nations, saluting fallen terrorist leaders. But so do I and about a million other people. This does not make me an expert by any means. And it surely doesn't make them capable of indiscriminant murder. And I can understand why they felt the way they do. That's my opinion.

There are no facts in evidence anywhere, that the IDF targeted the UN compound. I don't need to know any Drop shorts, or have any back ground in military equipment, to prove that ordinance do not always land where it was intended too. That's simple stats and facts.

Israeli Troops train along side Canadian personnel in the US and in other places. Incident free. Military comradery is multi uniformed. That to is a simple fact.

The IDF is not the political wing of Israel. They are Soldiers first. As are most Soldiers.

Now, if Israel feels it's in its best interest to not comply with an investigation. It could be based on any number of reasons. They've already accepted responsibility. I don't need much more then that. But that's me.

I just finished defending the Canadian Gov't's position on not assisting with a Polish led investigation into the taser death in BC. I'm not about to do an about face just because I was upset about the person involved. I don't micro manage my ideologies.

 

[Goober]

By Nutball I refer to some of the people who have taken grudges from this forum off it, and harassed some of the members of this forum, scroll through the archives you'll see a few gripes about it.

It was not an insult directed at either your not EAO, who despite his naive nature (in my opinion) is not one to do ill unto others.

I do not know EAO well enough to say naïve but I have been here long enough to agree with the statement that he would do no ill unto others -

 

[DaSleeper]

Who bumped this necro with a vote in the poll?????

 

[Goober]

Who bumped this necro with a vote in the poll?????

I was wondering the same thing-

 

[winniethepooh]

I did, I was looking up info on the BOI report as for some reason the writer for the Ottawa Citizen has resurrected the issue. 4 years later he's reporting the the BOI eport was 'quietly' removed, not sure why he's bringing it up now or why 4 years later it's that important. It apparently shouldn't have been there because it was classified, but they will repost a redacted version. I suspect the writer has an axe to grind.

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