Yes it does. Your right to follow your cult's indoctrination ends when it impinges on anyone else's religion . Non religious people have the right to be free of your dogma.
Tempers Flare Over School Prayers In Toronto
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Yes it does. Your right to follow your cult's indoctrination ends when it impinges on anyone else's religion . Non religious people have the right to be free of your dogma.
No, because I can see where morons like you would take it if it was true. Soon, you'd be complaining about having to walk by the local Parish and how it infringes on your "rights".
Gerry is correct on that - Read up on it
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.
Someone help out the ignorant (and too lazy to google) here..
Is this just casual praying? Like, during recess or out of class?
Or does this actually affect the curriculum?
Is this just casual praying? Like, during recess or out of class?
Or does this actually affect the curriculum?
I don't have any problems with a prayer time in school as long as it doesn't interfere with the other students' study time.
I could be wrong but I understand that the prayer time is 1:00PM and it last 40 minute and that could disrupt the classes for the other students....so one solution is to shift lunch break to one o'clock for all the students and those that want to pray can have 20 minutes left for lunch...:smile:
I could be wrong but I understand that the prayer time is 1:00PM and it last 40 minute and that could disrupt the classes for the other students....so one solution is to shift lunch break to one o'clock for all the students and those that want to pray can have 20 minutes left for lunch...:smile:
Improve your knowledge of what rights were guaranteed to each / some Provinces when they entered Confederation.
I'd say taxslave is correct according to what you posted. Freedom of conscience, thought, belief, opinion, and expression, surely extend to being free of any religious beliefs or any compulsion to respect them in others.
Then if that is the case I can't see a problem as long as the school accords the same courtesy to any faith group that want to hold a meeting on school property.
So, yea, if someone decides to pray during recess.. is that a bad thing?
Or is this really affecting the curriculum?
Or is this really affecting the curriculum?
How do the Christians and Muzzies manage to run schools with two different religions? Like in Iraq and other countries around the globe?
If we could do away with the time slot system, and give kids a free range of courses and worshops in schools, it would be a lot easier to accomodate religious customs like that. The time slot system was invented to mimic factory work 100 years ago.
I am pretty sure that no where in our Constitutions/Charters does it say you are protected from religion. That just wasn't the thing to say when they were drawn up. Some today may interpret that as so, and they may get away with it but they wrong. You are just guaranteed to be able to practice any religion you want.
Charter: "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms prohibits discrimination on the grounds of race; national or ethnic origin; colour; religion; gender; age; and mental or physical disability. Sexual orientation has recently been recognized as a prohibited ground for discrimination under the Charter. The Charter protects you from discrimination in actions taken by the Government of Canada, the government of any province or territory, and actions taken by government agencies, such as hospitals, schools, or Human Resource Centres."
Canada and Human Rights
Charter: "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms prohibits discrimination on the grounds of race; national or ethnic origin; colour; religion; gender; age; and mental or physical disability. Sexual orientation has recently been recognized as a prohibited ground for discrimination under the Charter. The Charter protects you from discrimination in actions taken by the Government of Canada, the government of any province or territory, and actions taken by government agencies, such as hospitals, schools, or Human Resource Centres."
Canada and Human Rights
I'm not a Torontonian (for which I am eternally thankful) but this whole thing (the Islamic prayer in cafeterias issue) seems like it has been mishandled from the onset. Issues I would have would revolve around a) the inability of non-muslim students to use the cafeteria during their lunch, b) the inability to opt out of the prayer meetings if a student desires and c) the discriminatory practices involved (i.e. sexist, particularly towards girls who are menustruating) as alluded to in a prior thread. The school boards does not have to grant the islamic community permission to conduct these meetings and honestly I don't see an up side to doing so, as there are far too many landmines with other segments of the population, be they Sihk, Hindu, Buddhist, any of the Christian denominations, or Atheist. As a parent, I think my kids learning about other religions is well and good: it can promote some understanding and tolerance but a relgious meeting that is exclusionary on school premises, during school hours, seems problematic at the very least.
As for the Roman Catholic issue, its totally seperate. Whether we agree or not, as was mentioned by others on many occasions, it is enshrined in the constitution (to placate the French Catholics in Quebec, that follows policy initiated from the original British take over of Lower Canada after the Plains of Abraham), thus its not up for debate without constitutional ammendments. the SCC can't do anything about it, even if they wanted to. While we may think it is perhaps discriminatory, it is what it is: no one HAS to send their kids to Catholic school, but the option is available, and if you do send your kids there, you accept the religious content as well (which in Alberta, to be perfectly honest, is minimal and quite often more than offset by an improvement in the quality of education).
As for the Roman Catholic issue, its totally seperate. Whether we agree or not, as was mentioned by others on many occasions, it is enshrined in the constitution (to placate the French Catholics in Quebec, that follows policy initiated from the original British take over of Lower Canada after the Plains of Abraham), thus its not up for debate without constitutional ammendments. the SCC can't do anything about it, even if they wanted to. While we may think it is perhaps discriminatory, it is what it is: no one HAS to send their kids to Catholic school, but the option is available, and if you do send your kids there, you accept the religious content as well (which in Alberta, to be perfectly honest, is minimal and quite often more than offset by an improvement in the quality of education).