SPLIT thread: Why to do anything about global warming
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Re: What to do about global warming
I knew exactly what I was referring to JLM. It was simply a tiny lighthearted comment stating that I see no evidence of "global warming" where I live. Like Hermite - this is one of those areas I have avoided. I also agree with her that we are into climate change and nothing else. "Weather" records from 50 - 60 years ago show the same thing happened then as is happening now.
While I no longer use Telus as my provider, I still use their homepage. I set the weather page to Nanaimo so if you want to look at it just go to that page and edit the page to Nanaimo - all you will see is that we are getting rain and more rain. Hmm - now I am thinking you want to see where I am looking at records from maybe 50 - 60 years ago. I don't remember right now if that is where I always read them or not. I'll have to look. It used to be at least (and I think that's the one unless it was when I used Canada.com as my homepage) that it showed the coldest and hottest day on record at the same time as it showed the current reading. I used to study it a little because it seemed very interesting that such extremes occurred.
It's the www.canada.com page.
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May 29As I said previously, there is no such thing as a greenhouse gas, let along a greenhouse gas effect
NASA covered up for forty years proof that the greenhouse gas theory was bogus. But even worse, did the U.S. space agency fudge its numbers on Earth’s energy budget to cover up the facts?
As per my article this week, forty years ago the space agency, NASA, proved there was no such thing as a greenhouse gas effect because the ‘blackbody’ numbers supporting the theory didn’t add up in a 3-dimensional universe:
"During lunar day, the lunar regolith absorbs the radiation from the sun and transports it inward and is stored in a layer approximately 50cm thick....in contrast with a precipitous drop in temperature if it was a simple black body, the regolith then proceeds to transport the stored heat back onto the surface, thus warming it up significantly over the black body approximation..."
Thus, the ‘blackbody approximations' were proven to be as useful as a chocolate space helmet; the guesswork of using the Stefan-Boltzmann equations underpinning the man-made global warming theory was long ago debunked. If NASA had made known that Stefan-Boltzmann's numbers were an irrelevant red-herring then the taxpayers of the world would have been spared the $50 billion wasted on global warming research; because it would have removed the only credible scientific basis to support the theory that human emissions of carbon dioxide changed Earth’s climate. Source
Louis Hissink's Crazy World - Windows Live
"During lunar day, the lunar regolith absorbs the radiation from the sun and transports it inward and is stored in a layer approximately 50cm thick....in contrast with a precipitous drop in temperature if it was a simple black body, the regolith then proceeds to transport the stored heat back onto the surface, thus warming it up significantly over the black body approximation..."
Thus, the ‘blackbody approximations' were proven to be as useful as a chocolate space helmet; the guesswork of using the Stefan-Boltzmann equations underpinning the man-made global warming theory was long ago debunked. If NASA had made known that Stefan-Boltzmann's numbers were an irrelevant red-herring then the taxpayers of the world would have been spared the $50 billion wasted on global warming research; because it would have removed the only credible scientific basis to support the theory that human emissions of carbon dioxide changed Earth’s climate. Source
Louis Hissink's Crazy World - Windows Live
Tell that to Greenlanders. They won't believe you.
Greenland ice - Google Search
Then there's this stuff:
http://climateprogress.org/2010/05/13/arctic-ice-volume-nsidc-polar-science-center/
Massive Arctic ice cap is shrinking, study shows; Rate accelerating since 1985
Canada's Shrinking Ice Caps: Arctic Science Journeys Radio
As Arctic sea ice shrinks faster than 2007, NSIDC director Serreze says, “I think it’s quite possible? we could “break another record this year.” Climate Progress
Notice a couple of those links are from this month, this year.
I see a overall drop in the amount of global ice here:
Polar Sea Ice Cap and Snow - Cryosphere Today
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Yes, that's what I was looking at. Specifically I wanted to see how the climate has changed since the 60's. It's not which year was the hottest or coldest on this day that matters for climate, but the long term average weather.
Try this Statistics: Princeton, British Columbia - The Weather Network hope it works for you.
Statistics: Merritt, British Columbia - The Weather Network
The site is a little tricky, you might have to play around with it to ger a specific historic date.
OK- Go to "home", "province", "city", "weather", "statistics". It doesn't appear that you can get complete statistics for all stations, but there must be a brighter candle on the cake than me.................LOL HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP Somebody.
I see what the graph appears to be saying, however, while our winter probably would fit into it, what we have had so far for summer like weather is starting to feel like it will be the year without summer. I call it the year without winter (2009). I was at my GP's office today and it was really busy so a number of people were sitting in the waiting room. Normally, people sit there in complete silence, no one talking much to anyone. Today however, people were the most chatty I have ever seen. All they could talk about was how cold it's been. People are wearing attire like shorts but the majority are still bundled up. It rained so hard here this afternoon, the water was just bouncing off the pavement.I found this, but the data stops in 1990:
Here's what I get in excel, with a trend line:
The trendline is rising at about 0.3°C per decade.
That's about double the global trend.
If Ton does get some of that info from Princeton, maybe I can at least help to confirm some of it. I cannot tell him what the weather was like 60 years ago. I'm sure I was paying more attention to a baby bottle than the weather but it did not change so fast that I wouldn't know something about it. Princeton was darn hot when I was a kid and it's darn hot now. Merritt too.
Vernon is getting the same for the past week, but we really need and I am not complaining in the least, except for the coolness- carrots and beets are hardly moving, but the beans and cukes are starting to come on.
The panic is real.
It is clear that Canada isn't doing anything about so called global warming.
See.
It is clear that Canada isn't doing anything about so called global warming.
See.