By not being dirty and accepting the retaliation for being dirty.
I really have my doubts you've ever hit the ice.
I really have my doubts you've ever hit the ice.
Should Shawn Thornton face more than a suspension?
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Exactly what "old time" hockey rule did the hit on Eriksson break to be defined as dirty?
How did he not accept retaliation? He wasn't ever put in a situation where he could accept or turn down any sort of retaliation.
If you can't think of a single incident like this other than Bertuzzi in the last 10 years,(attacking someone from behind and driving their head into the ice) it doesn't sound like this is a normal part of hockey.
Lol, what is exactly you mean?
You are saying that because James Neal took a cheap shot on a player at the other end of the ice, Orpik should grow eyes in the back of his head so he can be prepared to be jumped by a player coming up behind him?
Vancouver fought back. But what was the point. Aaron Rome threw a clean hit on Nathan Horton, and he starts doing the funky chicken on the ice, and Rome gets suspended for a clean hit.
Sure! For that type of paycheck... every night I would!
A. He's in the NHL
B. He's in the middle of it.
C. His name is Orpik
Drawing penalties is part of the game too.
If you've played the game you know that it's not just hits that will get you levelled. Opening your yap and beaking somebody off will too.
Vancouver is a team of whiners though. I remember all kinds of people crying because
during their series with Boston the refs put the whistle in their pocket and let the teams
play. My son and my grandsons all whined the Boston was too rough. If that is the case
get rid of the Sedin Sisters and a few others and get some Canadian boys who can hit
and fight.
I think the refs etc likely do pick on Vancouver cause no matter what sport it is they whine
or have excuses for every sport the lose and they lose a lot. should I say it ya why not
(GO RIDERS) Oh that's football, but then the lions lost that sport too.
during their series with Boston the refs put the whistle in their pocket and let the teams
play. My son and my grandsons all whined the Boston was too rough. If that is the case
get rid of the Sedin Sisters and a few others and get some Canadian boys who can hit
and fight.
I think the refs etc likely do pick on Vancouver cause no matter what sport it is they whine
or have excuses for every sport the lose and they lose a lot. should I say it ya why not
(GO RIDERS) Oh that's football, but then the lions lost that sport too.
lmao
A draw. If he had a concussion the air pressure changes from flying would hurt worse than the hit.
People do that all the time. No team ever lost a game that wasn't the refs fault, and no team ever credited bad reffing for their win.
The myth at the time was that Vancouver was a tlaented team that lost to a lunchbucket team, but I never saw it that way. Boston had a lot of talent--Lucic, Chara, Thomas.
I got a lot of time for the Sedins myself. They're getting on a bit now, but I have greatly enjoyed see them play over the years, esepcially the tight little "spin cycles" they do in the corners. They have changed the way the game is played--you see a lot of teams now doing those short little 5' passes.
Then again, I'm a Vancouver fan. As for being a whiner--you're the one doing the whining here. :lol:
Being in favor of big hits and being against sucker punching people from behind means I never played hockey? Exactly what game do you think hockey is?
This is the lowest form of talking about sports, but it really doesn't sound like you have ever played hockey.
I have never met a person in my years playing hockey or being a hockey fan that ever thought anything from behind was ok. Hitting someone from behind is dirty enough, sucker punching someone from behind is about a low as you can go.
If you are going to fight someone, you fight. You drop the gloves and square off. If you have to sucker punch them from behind so they have no chance to fight back, you are a huge coward.
Lol, if you were going through that every night you'd better spend that money quickly.
Exactly what precedent is there that if you are in the NHL you need to be ready to be jumped and sucker punched from behind? Nobody here seems to be able to find any other incident like this in the last 10 years other than Bertuzzi, so how exactly can this be considered part of the game?
There is no evidence that Orpik wouldn't have agreed to fight had he had a chance. At very least he would have had the opportunity to turtle and protect himself. Unless Thornton actually wanted to inflict serious injury on Orpik, that should have more than accomplished what he set out to do.
Hating the Canucks is pretty easy. They are probably my least favorite team in the NHL for exactly this reason. They wine constantly about how everyone is being too mean to them, but they also have some of the dirties players who will unabashedly dive all over the place and take any cheap shot they can get away with.
Hockey is a physical game so you need some grit and guys who can hit hard. What Thornton did has no place in this though. It was a cowardly, dirty, attack.
The extent of an injury is a poor way to judge someone's actions. In the Bertuzzi incident, with a little luck Moore could have walked away almost completely unscathed, or with a little less luck, he might be paralyzed now or worse. Someone shouldn't have to lose their career or worse for incredibly stupid actions like that to be punished for what they are.
If you played, you might have considered getting punched out for trash talk but you've never played.
No, I would never sucker punch someone from behind for "trash talking". You have to be a real piece of **** to consider doing something like that.
Lots of people get involved in fights over that kind of stuff, but it is face to face, you know, actually a fight.
BTW, Thornton came in from the other end of the ice and doesn't pause before doing this, so clearly couldn't hear anything that he was saying.
Have you been reading this thread? There is one obvious comparison, which is what Bertuzzi did to Steve Moore.
Do you have any other comparable events?
Seriously? Bertuzzi? That's your best example? That was ten years ago. Get with the program.