Shame on Canada! re: Propaganda and Canada's Support of Ethnic Cleansing.

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"Why would anyone want to live in pre 1948 Palestine", They wouldn't. Before WW-1 Palestine encompassed the whole area of what we now call Israel and Jordan. When WW-1 ended the British divided the Palestine part of the Ottoman Empire into two. Jews would only be permitted west of the Jordan river. The British had chopped off 75% of the originally proposed Jewish Palestine homeland to form an Arab Palestine nation called Trans-Jordan. This territory east of the Jordan River was given to Emir Abdullah (from Hejaz, now Saudi Arabia) who was not even an Arab-"Palestinian!" This portion of Palestine was renamed Trans-Jordan. Trans-Jordan and would again be renamed "Jordan" in 1946. In other words, the eastern 3/4 of Palestine would be renamed TWICE, in effect, erasing all connection to the name "Palestine!" However, the bottom line is that the Palestinian Arabs had THEIR "Arab Palestinian" homeland. The remaining 25% of Palestine (now WEST of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then nor now.

On May 14, 1948 the "Palestinian" Jews finally declared their own State of Israel and became "Israelis." On the next day, seven neighboring Arab armies... Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Yemen... invaded Israel. Most of the Arabs living within the boundaries of the newly declared "ISRAEL" were encouraged to leave by the invading Arab armies to facilitate the slaughter of the Jews and were promised to be given all Jewish property after the victorious Arab armies won the war. The truth is that 70% of the Arab Palestinians who left in 1948 – perhaps 300,000 to 400,000 of them – never saw an Israeli soldier! They did not flee because they feared Jewish thugs, but because of a rational and reasonable calculus: the Jews will be exterminated; we will get out of the way while that messy and dangerous business goes forward, and we will return afterwards to reclaim our homes, and to inherit those nice Jewish properties as well. They guessed wrong; and the Arab Palestinians are still tortured by the residual shame of their flight. Their shame is so great because in their eyes running from Jews was like running from women. So much for the blatant lie about Jews throwing out all the [Palestinian] Arabs! The Jewish people have no other place to go, Israel was given to them and now they must defend it. Most of us (hopefully) will never be forced to or have to understand what and why they have to do what they do. Just enjoy your little piece of the world and stop criticizing others. They are trying to exist.
 

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Can I ask something? We can't even get people in the former Yugoslavia back to homes they owned 15 years ago. Why on earth would someone think it was possible or even reasonable to return "Palestine" to the way it was before 1948?

That'a a very good point Tracy. How about Israel pay every displaced Palestinian reparations same as Jews displaced in WW11 have demanded and gotten.
 

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"How about Israel pay every displaced Palestinian reparations same as Jews displaced in WW11 have demanded and gotten. "

Why should Israel pay them anything, they were not the ones who persuaded them to leave. Most of them left by their own decisions, or were forced out by the Arabs.
 

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That'a a very good point Tracy. How about Israel pay every displaced Palestinian reparations same as Jews displaced in WW11 have demanded and gotten.

We had a very interesting discussion about that about a year or so ago in a thread here somewhere. It turns out the vast majority of "Palestinians" (I put it in quotes because in 1948 a Palestinian was a Jew) were tenants. Most of the non-Jewish landowners were absentee landlords. So, Ironically, most of the reparations would be going to Emirs and Sheiks in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, SA, Turkey etc. who never set foot in Palestine for generations before 1948.
 

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That'a a very good point Tracy. How about Israel pay every displaced Palestinian reparations same as Jews displaced in WW11 have demanded and gotten.

Actually, I think reparations are an excellent idea.....after a peace has been agreed to..........and as soon as the Arab countries pay reparations to the 800,000 Jews they disposessed and expelled after 1948.

Fair is fair.

i wonder who owes more......care to guess?????
 

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That'a a very good point Tracy. How about Israel pay every displaced Palestinian reparations same as Jews displaced in WW11 have demanded and gotten.

I don't think that that is a bad idea, nor do I think there would be any serious opposition to it in Israel. But I can't see the nations who are using the "palestinian refugees" as a way to make a whole heap of their citizens second class go along with it.
 

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More Zionist distortions of the facts. Zionist Jews have no claim to Jordan for the same reason they have no claim to Saudi Arabia. No Jews lived in either of these places in 1948.

Even dividing Palestine the way the UN proposed in 1947 was skewed in favor of the Zionists. The population of the area being divided was 2/3 Arab and 1/3 Jewish. Yet the UN gave 56.47% of the land to Jews and 43.53% of the land to the Arabs. Also the Jewish part included most of the arable land and control of most of the water. If it was fair, about an equal number of Jews and Arabs would have been displaced as a result. Instead the UN partition involved relocating 325,000 Arabs and only 10,000 Jews.

History of Israel: 1947 UN Partition Proposal

Also the Zionist ethnic cleansing campaign did not start in 1948. Zionists began their ethnic cleansing Palestine of Palestinians in December 1947 before Israel claimed independance. By the time neighboring Arab states got involved, Zionists had already cleansed Palestine of most Palestinians. The choice faced by the unarmed Arab civilians was stay and face Deir Yassein like massacres or flee. 800,000 Palestinians chose to flee. Many who remained behind were slaughtered mercilessly.

Zionists gangs whose leaders later became prominent leaders in the Israeli government committed serious war crimes and crimes against humanity. Their actions resulted in Arab reprisals which were also war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Killings and massacres during the 1948 Palestine War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Neither side can justify slaughtering unarmed civilians, not even in revenge.

Understandably, most civilians in the war zones which were threatened chose to flee. The Zionists thugs who slaughtered unarmed civilians and raped women and young girls should be ashamed. The Arabs who committed similar atrocties should also be ashamed. Unarmed civilians should not be ashamed of evacuating their homes and villages for safety reasons.

Jewish Israeli Historian Benny Morris Interview in an Israeli Newspaper
Survival of the fittest - Haaretz - Israel News

Quote by Ilan Pappe. Israeli historian and senior lecturer at Haifa University. Academic Director of the Research Institute for Peace at Givat Haviva and Chair of the Emil Touma Institute for Palestinian Studies.
...David Ben-Gurion, Israel's first prime minister, met with leading Zionists and young Jewish military officers on March 10, 1948 to finalize plans to ethnically cleanse Palestine that unfolded in the months that followed including "large-scale (deadly serious)intimidation; laying siege to and bombarding villages and population centres; setting fire to homes, properties and goods; expulsion; demolition; and finally, planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled inhabitants from returning."


The final master plan was called Plan D (Dalet in Hebrew) following plans A, B, and C preceding it. It was to be a war without mercy complying with what Ben-Gurion said in June, 1938 to the Jewish Agency Executive and never wavering from later: "I am for compulsory transfer; I do not see anything immoral in it." Plan D became the way to do it. It included forcible expulsion of hundreds of thousands of unwanted Palestinian Arabs in urban and rural areas accompanied by an unknown number of others mass slaughtered to get it done. The goal was simple and straightforward - to create an exclusive Jewish state without an Arab presence by any means including mass-murder.
Once begun, the whole ugly business took six months to complete. It expelled about 800,000 people, killed many others, and destroyed 531 villages and 11 urban neighborhoods in cities like Tel-Aviv, Haifa and Jerusalem.


The action was a clear case of ethnic cleansing that international law today calls a crime against humanity for which convicted Nazis at Nuremberg were hanged. So far Israelis have always remained immune from international law even though names of guilty leaders and those charged with implementing their orders are known as well as the crimes they committed.


They included cold-blooded mass-murder; destruction of homes, villages and crops; rapes; other atrocities; and massacres of defenseless people given no quarter including women and children...


The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe

Under international law, refugees who flee violence have a right to return to their homes when the violence subsides. Apparently Israel is the sole exception. Israel violated international law and their terms for acceptance by the UN by refusing to allow Arab refugees to return home. Instead Israel illegally seized their homes, property, bank accounts... and so on. They awarded Arab property to Jewish immigrants, many of who moved into fully furnished Arab homes. All they had to do was put the Arab family portraits out with the trash and move in. In some cases the beds were still made. More than 4 million Palestinians remain refugees today.

BTW, Zionist ethnic cleansing has never stopped. It continues to this day:

Illan Pappe:
Palestine 2007: Genocide in Gaza, Ethnic Cleansing in the West Bank
 

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Actually, I think reparations are an excellent idea.....after a peace has been agreed to..........and as soon as the Arab countries pay reparations to the 800,000 Jews they disposessed and expelled after 1948.

Fair is fair.

i wonder who owes more......care to guess?????

I would go even further than that. I would say any Jew who was not adequately protected by their country of origin and was forced to flee violence and persecution deserves compensation. That includes Europe and likely Canada and the US. Don't forget Canada was pretty anti-Semitic during the 1930's. I'm sure some of the thousands of Canadian and American Jews also ended up in Israel after WW II were also fleeing persecution.

But if these people could have remained safely in their host country, sold their property and chose to immigrate to Israel, they aren't refugees. They are immigrants. That probably describes most of the 800,000 Jews who came to Israel from Arab countries. Remember the Israeli refrain, "Let our people go"? Many Arab countries didn't what to loose their Jewish population. For many Arab countries it was a major intellectual and economic drain.

On the other hand, its clear that most of the 800,000 Palestinians who fled Palestine in 1947-48 and became refugees had no other safe choice.
 

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But again, why is 1948 the issue? It simply isn't realistic to move them back anymore than it is to return Jews to the countries they were chased out of. If they spent 1/10th of the time working to improve their lives that they spend trying to get back something they will never get back, they'd be doing a lot better right now. Dozens of ethnic/religious/cultural groups have gone through this (Armenians, Jews, Palestinians, Croats, Serbs, Rwandans, Cambodians, etc). All of them at some point have to accept reality and move on if they want any hope of something better.
 

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Earth As One :
I would go even further than that. I would say any Jew who was not adequately protected by their country of origin and was forced to flee violence and persecution deserves compensation. That includes Europe and likely Canada and the US. Don't forget Canada was pretty anti-Semitic during the 1930's. I'm sure some of the thousands of Canadian and American Jews also ended up in Israel after WW II were also fleeing persecution.

I think European Jews have been reasonably well compensated for their persecution during World war Two.......and that dwarfs any other claims they might have.........As for North America, there is a HUGE difference between state persecution and simple bias.......Jews here have had the vote, and have enjoyed equal protection under the law for a long, long time. No compensation due, IMHO.


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But if these people could have remained safely in their host country, sold their property and chose to immigrate to Israel, they aren't refugees. They are immigrants. That probably describes most of the 800,000 Jews who came to Israel from Arab countries. Remember the Israeli refrain, "Let our people go"? Many Arab countries didn't what to loose their Jewish population. For many Arab countries it was a major intellectual and economic drain.

An education for you EAS
The Jewish exodus from Arab lands refers to the 20th century expulsion or mass departure of Jews, primarily of Sephardi and Mizrahi background, from Arab and Islamic countries. The migration started in the late 19th century, but accelerated after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.
856,000 Jews left their homes in Arab countries from 1948 until the early 1970s; 260,000 reached Israel in 1948-1951, 600,000 by 1972.[1][2][3] The Jews of Egypt and Libya were expelled while those of Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and North Africa left due to physical and political insecurity.[4] Most were forced to abandon their property.[2] By 2002 these Jews and their descendants constituted about 40% of Israel's population.[3] The World Organization of Jews from Arab Countries (WOJAC) estimates that Jewish property abandoned in Arab countries would be valued today at more than $300 billion[5][6] and Jewish-owned real-estate left behind in Arab lands at 100,000 square kilometers (four times the size of the State of Israel). [1][6]

Jewish exodus from Arab lands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Earth As One
On the other hand, its clear that most of the 800,000 Palestinians who fled Palestine in 1947-48 and became refugees had no other safe choice.

I would say the movement of Palestinians from Israel and Jews from the Arab lands amounts to an exchange of populations........however, Palestinians in Israel usually fled because of political and physical insecurity, they were rarely expelled.....and, as it turns out, the Arabs still in Israel enjoy a reasonably good life.....unlike Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.

Why is that?

Because the worst persecutors of the Palestinian people by far have been their Arab "brothers", who refuse to accept them into their countries, refuse to help them with anything but encouragement shouted from the safety of their own lands, refuse to take any responsibility for them.

Meanwhile Israel has absorbed the refugees that came to them.

Compensation?

Let's just say if Israel paid fair compensation for everything lost to every Palestinian that fled Israel........and then the Arab countries paid fair compensation to every Israeli Jew that fled their lands....Israel would be ahead by a few billion dollars.

Here's a novel plan: Why don't the Arab nations spend the compensation they owe Jews integrating their Palestinian "brothers" into those nations where they belong........Egypt and Jordan?

Don't hold your breath.
 

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Yes the Palestinians who fled as you said were not chased out by the Jews, but out of fear they would get caught up in the so called slaughter of the Jews the Arabs were promising. Those who left, were hoping to return after it was all over and live in the luxury of the Jewish community or what was left of it. Their still waiting.
 

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Jewish Israeli historians claim their research of Israeli government archives prove Zionists ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Palestine by force:
Benny Morris, Ilan Pappé, Avi Shlaim, Tom Segev, Hillel Cohen

But if you disagree with these Jewish Israeli historians, perhaps you can reference some Arab Palestinian historians to back up your points. Quoting Zionist propaganda proves nothing.

Regarding the Jewish exodus from Arab countries. Their story is far more complex and diverse than the posts above indicate. I'm sure some are entitled to compensation. But others immigrated to Israel for the same reasons Jews left Canada and the US for Israel: a chance for a better life, an opportunity to live in a Jewish nation, religious and messianic aspirations...


This Arab Jewish refugee myth has not only been thoroughly discredited in Israel, it has angered many Israelis of Arab origin:

Israeli Newspaper Haaretz
Hitching a ride on the magic carpet
By Yehouda Shenhav

Any analogy between Palestinian refugees and Jewish immigrants from Arab lands is folly in historical and political terms

An intensive campaign to secure official political and legal recognition of Jews from Arab lands as refugees has been going on for the past three years. This campaign has tried to create an analogy between Palestinian refugees and Mizrahi Jews, whose origins are in Middle Eastern countries - depicting both groups as victims of the 1948 War of Independence. The campaign's proponents hope their efforts will prevent conferral of what is called a "right of return" on Palestinians, and reduce the size of the compensation Israel is liable to be asked to pay in exchange for Palestinian property appropriated by the state guardian of "lost" assets.

The idea of drawing this analogy constitutes a mistaken reading of history, imprudent politics, and moral injustice...

...In a bid to complete the analogy drawn between Palestinians and Mizrahi Jews, WOJAC publicists claimed that the Mizrahi immigrants lived in refugee camps in Israel during the 1950s (i.e., ma'abarot or transit camps), just like the Palestinian refugees.

The organization's claims infuriated many Mizrahi Israelis who defined themselves as Zionists. As early as 1975, at the time of WOJAC's formation, Knesset speaker Yisrael Yeshayahu declared: "We are not refugees. [Some of us] came to this country before the state was born. We had messianic aspirations."

Shlomo Hillel, a government minister and an active Zionist in Iraq, adamantly opposed the analogy: "I don't regard the departure of Jews from Arab lands as that of refugees. They came here because they wanted to, as Zionists."

In a Knesset hearing, Ran Cohen stated emphatically: "I have this to say: I am not a refugee." He added: "I came at the behest of Zionism, due to the pull that this land exerts, and due to the idea of redemption. Nobody is going to define me as a refugee."

The opposition was so vociferous that Ora Schweitzer, chair of WOJAC's political department, asked the organization's secretariat to end its campaign. She reported that members of Strasburg's Jewish community were so offended that they threatened to boycott organization meetings should the topic of "Sephardi Jews as refugees" ever come up again...

Hitching a ride on the magic carpet - Haaretz - Israel News

Also from Israeli Newspaper Haaretz:
..."I think - I can't prove it - that there was an understanding between the Iraqi government and the Israeli government. An understanding, not an agreement.Israel asked Iraq to let the Jews immigrate, the Iraqis said: We are not opposed, but the Jews are filling central positions here in the Iraqi economy, so Israel said: Leave the Jewish property in Iraq. That accords with the behavior of the Iraqi government. Immediately after the grenade was thrown, the Jews of Iraq started to panic, and then the government issued a law that any Iraqi - they wrote `Iraqi' rather than `Jew' specifically - who wanted to leave the country, could leave if he registered by a certain date, but would have to surrender his citizenship.

"Out of the 130,000 Jews in Iraq, 100,000 registered, including my father. And then, immediately afterward, a new law was issued, to the effect that any Iraqi who had given up his citizenship was giving up all his other rights, including property rights. My father was sure that he would have enough time to sell his property, but then it turned out that he had lost everything: a house and warehouses and merchandise worth half a million pounds sterling at the time. In the end, he was even forced to cross the border illegally on a mule, because he was the guarantor of the debts of another Jew who had disappeared. I, my mother and my sisters, with our British citizenship, left Iraq on a regular flight to Cyprus, and met up with my father in Israel."

Then you in effect agree with the members of the Mizrahi Democratic Rainbow, who say that the Jews were brought from the Arab countries to provide "raw material" to shore up Zionism in Israel?

"That theory is very convincing. We won the War of Independence and founded a state, but the number of inhabitants was very small, fewer than 1 million. For Ben-Gurion, the top priority was aliyah (immigration), and the large reservoir of Jews was no longer in Europe, but in the Arab countries. We are not refugees, nobody expelled us from Iraq, nobody told us that we were unwanted. But we are the victims of the Israeli-Arab conflict."

No peaceful solution - Haaretz - Israel News

I challenge those of you who believe all Israeli Jews who originate from Arab countries suffered a similar experience as Palestinian refugees, to reference Arab and Muslim news sources to back up your points.
 
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Jewish Israeli historians claim their research of Israeli government archives prove Zionists ethnically cleansed Palestinians from Palestine by force:
Benny Morris, Ilan Pappé, Avi Shlaim, Tom Segev, Hillel Cohen

But if you disagree with these Jewish Israeli historians, perhaps you can reference some Arab Palestinian historians to back up your points. Quoting Zionist propaganda proves nothing.

Regarding the Jewish exodus from Arab countries. Their story is far more complex and diverse than the posts above indicate. I'm sure some are entitled to compensation. But others immigrated to Israel for the same reasons Jews left Canada and the US for Israel: a chance for a better life, an opportunity to live in a Jewish nation, religious and messianic aspirations...


This Arab Jewish refugee myth has not only been thoroughly discredited in Israel, it has angered many Israelis of Arab origin:

Israeli Newspaper Haaretz


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..."I think - I can't prove it - that there was an understanding between the Iraqi government and the Israeli government. An understanding, not an agreement.

EAO, I have absolutely no doubt that some Palestinian refugees were forced to flee at gunpoint by Israelis. I have absolutely no doubt that ethnic cleansing took place in the 1948 war, nor do I doubt that the numbers of Palestinians forced to flee was very significant. I do not think Israel's history is pure as the driven snow, so to speak.

I also have no doubt that many Palestinians fled at te urging of the invading Arab armies.....but were not allowed to return by Israel.

And some simply feared living in Israel.

But the other side of the coin is exactly the same. Jews were disposessed, and forcibly expelled.....hundreds of thousands of them......and some left simply because they didn't want to live under Arab rule, and some left because they felt they were in danger, and have would not be allowed to return.

This turned out to be a population exchange: that is the reality of it. There are two very equivalent sides to this coin, except for two things: First, if reparations for lost possessions were paid, Israel would be tens, if not hundreds of billions of dollars ahead.

Secondly, were are the Jewish refugee camps, the Jewish breeding grounds for Jewish terror world-wide against Islam?

they don't exist.

Because the Jews of Israel took refugees into their societies, they fully absorbed them, to the point some are insulted when they are refered to as "refugees".

Meanwhile, partly by chance, partly by design, and whole-heartly by cold-heartedness, the Palestinians have been left to bake in the sun by their Arab and Persian "brothers", used as a club with which to beat Israel.......and otherwise ignored.

It is time people started expecting the Arab nations to take care of their own.
 

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Colpy;1055991It is time people started expecting the Arab nations to take care of their own.[/quote said:
I could not agree with this more. As much talk as people give to the Israelis closing borders, they ignore Gaza's shared border with Egypt. Let Egypt allow international aid to cross. Let them send food and medical supplies. Why would you expect the people you're at war against to do it rather than your Arab/muslim brothers? It makes no sense.
 

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Colpy, that was a reasonable response. Most people who defend Israel on this forum have never acknowledged that Israel has ever done anything wrong. Some people defending the Palestinian cause refuse to recognize that some Palestinians have also committed war crimes and crimes against humanity.

I disagree that Israel's neighbors are 100% responsible for a refugee problem resulting from Israel's creation and ongoing ethnic cleansing policies. But yes I would agree that many Arab nations also share responsibility.... along with Israel, other nations including Canada and the UN which also contributed to creating this problem and making it worse.

Technically Jews and Palestinians are "brothers". They are closer to each other genetically than either group is to Arabs or Persians. But that's besides the point. Its wrong for a state to seize personal property regardless who does it. That's not going on anymore in Arab nations but its been going on for more than 60 years now in Israel and the Occupied Territories and it shows no sign of ending anytime soon.

Israel can probably mitigate some of their liability for the Palestinian refugee problem by their absorption of Jewish refugees.

Zionists started the ethnic cleansing war, not Arabs and Muslims. All of these groups contributed to both Palestinian and Jewish refugee problems.

Israel has no intention of becoming secular or a Jewish minority, nor do they have any intention of returning land they've taken by force from the Palestinians or continue to take by force.

Would Canada accept millions of Palestinian refugees? Why would you expect other countries to do this?

Palestinians and Israel's neighbors have repeatedly offered peace in return for a return to the 1967 borders:

Arab nations approve peace plan | World news | guardian.co.uk

Hamas won't oppose Arab peace plan, Palestinian says | Reuters

The ball's been Israel's court for some time but Israel's actions indicate they would rather continue to use force to create "facts on the ground" which undermine peace. Israel will not be interested in peace until they've managed to take as much of Palestine as possible.

Israel's vision for the future is to bomb Palestinians into submission and imprison them behind a series of walls which are efectively open air prisons. Do you support this policy?
 

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Amnesty International has accused Israel and Palestinian militant groups of war crimes and calls on the world to impose an arms embargo on the belligerents.

PRESS RELEASE
February, 19 2009


Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territories: Evidence of misuse of US-weapons reinforces need for arms embargo

Both Israel and Hamas used weapons supplied from abroad to carry out attacks on civilians, Amnesty International said today as it released fresh evidence on the munitions used during the three-week conflict in Gaza and southern Israel and called on the UN to impose a comprehensive arms embargo.

“Israeli forces used white phosphorus and other weapons supplied by the USA to carry out serious violations of international humanitarian law, including war crimes. Their attacks resulted in the death of hundreds of children and other civilians and massive destruction of homes and infrastructure,” said Donatella Rovera who headed Amnesty International's fact-finding mission to southern Israel and Gaza. “At the same time, Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups fired hundreds of rockets that had been smuggled in or made of components from abroad at civilian areas in Israel. Though far less lethal than the weaponry used by Israel, such rocket firing also constitutes a war crime and caused several civilian deaths.”...

...“We urge the UN Security Council to impose an immediate and comprehensive arms embargo on Israel, Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups until effective mechanisms are found to ensure that munitions and other military equipment are not used to commit serious violations of international law,” said Malcolm Smart. “In addition all states should suspend all transfers of military equipment, assistance and munitions to Israel, Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups until there is no longer a substantial risk of human rights violations.

Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territories: Evidence of misuse of US-weapons reinforces need for arms embargo

I agree. The entire world should adopt this policy regarding arming the belligerents in this conflict.

Related:

UCLA professor helps launch boycott of Israel
Nearly 200 US professors follow suit; others cite need for pressure on Palestine, too

...The call is “inspired by the struggle of South Africans against apartheid and in the spirit of international solidarity, moral consistency and resistance to injustice and oppression,” according to its mission statement.

Although there have been local efforts to boycott and divest from Israeli companies in the past, this is the first attempt in the United States to organize an academic and cultural boycott on a national level, Hale said.

The U.S. boycott was largely provoked by the recent attack on Gaza, in which hundreds of children were killed, Hale said.

“The bombing of the Islamic University of Gaza was an important impetus,” she added. “That made us think Israeli academics should take a stand and put pressure on their universities, which are highly implicated in the developing of weapons through scientific research, not unlike other universities.”

However, the boycott is institutional and is not aimed at individual academics and cultural figures, Hale said....

The Daily Bruin - UCLA professor helps launch boycott of Israel

As long as it remains institutional and not aimed at individual academics and cultural figures, I would agree.

The ban should not affect the ability of Israeli citizens to travel and immigrate to Canada or interfere with sporting events.
Israeli tennis player caught in Mideast politics

Israeli pro Shahar Peer was denied a visa to compete at this week’s Dubai Tennis Championships.

Tournament organizers insist Israeli barred over safety worries, not Gaza
TheStar.com | Columnist | Israeli tennis player caught in Mideast politics

If security was a concern, they should have cancelled the event rather than penalize and individual player.
 

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Hard core? Yes.... For the rest? You sound like just another user. All those new Muslims and Africans might help stack a referendum to your favour. You'll blame those immigrants when the new nation falls on its face.

Pretentious, that is what you are.
 

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Tien donc,voilà mon débile de fondamentaliste.:roll:





Let's see; just for starters:

Harper is not in the habit of having opponents shot, knee-capped, tortured or thrown from the top of high buildings........although, in your case, that could be seen as quite unfortunate.


Harper kept Omar Khadr in Guantanamo , the only nation who did it.

Harper gave 200 billions to the Canadian bank. wow you like to get ****ed in your ass right?






He didn't use the phone.....he prefered the message be sent by missile :roll:, but you essentually have the message correct.


Yeah , those missiles who couldnt even reach their target, yeah i know those, how many israelis are dead frrom those heavy missiles?

Do you have an idea how many missiles were sent by Israel in the first 20 minutes of aggression by Israel?





No, most sane people don't wish to be bombed.....Hamas wants the Palestinians bombed.......that is especially true of the Hamas leadership........which lives in Damascus, Syria.

Of course , like i said it is all hamas fault. It is their fault that Canadians are still living(like loosers) under monarchy rules.






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Unwrap the tinfoil, snub out the joint, have your psychiatrist increase your meds.......that is about the most ridiculous thing you have written, and that is going some.....
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What can i expect from a fundamentaliste christian like you are?

So i have a question for others..



Why israel( A nation who believe god that a god gave them à land)funded Hamas in the first place ,when arafat was in power?​