Seniors don't want to give up money for younger gen: poll

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CDNBear said:
So you turned down your publicly funded pay cheque and publicly funded retirement package?
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Of course not. What I'm saying is that contrary to what some idiot on a web forum thinks he knows, not all of my money comes from the public sector. I'm really not surprised that I have to explain it to you.
 
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DaSleeper said:
I like his dancing:lol:
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LOL...

I like him ragging on retirees that worked for private companies, that invested their own money for their future.While he has bragged about suckling at the gov't teat, and will enjoy a publicly subsidized retirement package that the bulk of the country can only dream about.

He takes being a hypocrite, to a whole new level.

Cannuck said:
Of course not.
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Hypocrite.
 
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JLM said:
"Nobody pays into OAS"???????????? Is there some other entity that puts up cash? :lol::lol::lol:
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You pay tax. Do you say you paid into the police or that you paid into defense or that you paid into Environment Canada? Why do you say that you paid into OAS?
 
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JLM said:
"Nobody pays into OAS"???????????? Is there some other entity that puts up cash? :lol::lol::lol:
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I f the gov. takes money from a surplus in let's say employment insurance to pay for a deficit in Canada post or teachers nobody cries...but it's OK to take it away from people who paid taxes all their lives but go right ahead and give it to immigrants who have been here only ten years...
Take it away from those immigrants and the same suspects will be the first to be outraged...
 
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DaSleeper said:
I f the gov. takes money from a surplus in let's say employment insurance to pay for a deficit in Canada post or teachers nobody cries...but it's OK to take it away from people who paid taxes all their lives but go right ahead and give it to immigrants who have been here only ten years...
Take it away from those immigrants and the same suspects will be the first to be outraged...
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You pay into the employment insurance fund.
 
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I didn't realize there were people still living in caves. The younger generation is more
giving and caring? When did that happen? Most of them are very good but the young
by and large even have their parents and grandparents going to job interviews with them.
Have you watched the generous young folks in traffic? They drive like they are possessed
with no regard for anyone. Many are self centered and believe they should start at the
top wage immediately out of post secondary, experience or not.
Yes the people who built this country are entitled to something, to start with its called
respect. In addition there are those who went overseas and fought the wars people cheer
about winning. Or they had to fight for years for a pension because the were merchant
marines that were not entitled to the same advantages as other soldier, sailors and airmen.
there is a long list of people put their lives on the line.
In addition there are those who worked the factories and mining sights when health and
safety regulations were not as they are today. Oh and they fought for those work place
benefits that so many younger people enjoy today. Those benefits didn't come because
governments and business people were nice folks, they were won at bargaining tables and
on picket lines. Today they are considered common benefits, without one shred of history
as to how they came about.
And finally while some are whining about all the mistreatment they being handed I don't
hear too many complaining about the money, jewellery, property, and other valuables they
will be getting when the old folks are gone. There is two sides to this, those who actually
worked for the benefits deserve some rewards, and those who have not yet earned their
place in the sun should stop bitching and get to work. creating a better place for their kids
and grand kids.
 
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Cannuck said:
You pay into the employment insurance fund.
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Along with EVERY other fund connected to Government>

damngrumpy said:
I didn't realize there were people still living in caves. The younger generation is more
giving and caring? When did that happen? Most of them are very good but the young
by and large even have their parents and grandparents going to job interviews with them.
Have you watched the generous young folks in traffic? They drive like they are possessed
with no regard for anyone. Many are self centered and believe they should start at the
top wage immediately out of post secondary, experience or not.
Yes the people who built this country are entitled to something, to start with its called
respect. In addition there are those who went overseas and fought the wars people cheer
about winning. Or they had to fight for years for a pension because the were merchant

place in the sun should stop bitching and get to work. creating a better place for their kids
and grand kids
marines that were not entitled to the same advantages as other soldier, sailors and airmen.
there is a long list of people put their lives on the line.
In addition there are those who worked the factories and mining sights when health and
safety regulations were not as they are today. Oh and they fought for those work place
benefits that so many younger people enjoy today. Those benefits didn't come because
governments and business people were nice folks, they were won at bargaining tables and
on picket lines. Today they are considered common benefits, without one shred of history
as to how they came about.
And finally while some are whining about all the mistreatment they being handed I don't
hear too many complaining about the money, jewellery, property, and other valuables they
will be getting when the old folks are gone. There is two sides to this, those who actually
worked for the benefits deserve some rewards, and those who have not yet earned their
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Exactly D.G. like I said earlier when we leave the planet and they inherit all this ill gained booty, they can sell it off and pay down the debt they are so concerned that WE ran up. :lol:

Maybe before Ron comes on shift we should just continue to discuss the issue in a neutral way without referring specifically to any idiots. Now I would suggest as a senior I still pay all the taxes the young folks do and these taxes are largely on money that was already taxed at the time I saved it (except for a small amount I draw in RRIFs)
 
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JLM said:
Maybe before Ron comes on shift we should just continue to discuss the issue in a neutral way without referring specifically to any idiots.
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It's interesting that the only ones on this thread throwing around names are the seniors. It's pretty clear which generation lacks respect.
 
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Baby boomers living good life while their children hit blockade
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He examined household incomes in 1976 and compared them with incomes of young couples today, and adjusted for inflation. In Canada, young couples today have household incomes only slightly higher — five per cent — than young couples in 1976. Median household income in 2010 was $68,580 up $3,000 from $65,360 in 1976.

Meanwhile, housing costs rose an average 76 per cent and daycare costs these days are like a second mortgage — when you can find it.
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There are 3 points I would like to make:
1- This character Kershaw is fictitious made only for the purpose of this article. If not and he is real then education in BC is in deep poop. Whoever wrote that article is not qualified to talk about that subject let alone teaches it. He compares inflation-adjusted income in 1976 and in 2010. Then marvels at the percent increase of house price for same years. I just wonder if he understands the meaning of “adjusted for inflation” or what does it mean to him?
2- Baby Boomers have done a lot of great things (we will examine the facts bellow) but miserably failed in one and that is they raised self centered, greedy and spoiled offspring (generation me, although I do not believe in labeling) Almost all bad things are attributed to Baby Boomers. I am surprised that the demise of dinosaurs and WWI are not blamed on them, or are they? Now to the facts; with the exception of the wealthy:
a. Since creation parents’ role (even in animals) is to raise their offspring to adulthood and let them start their own life.
b. Offspring stands on its own feet and become independent.
c. When parents get old offspring provide help if needed.
d. Young people of all generations since creation struggled at the start; that is life. The article even admits that the previous generation was poor. That means baby boomers struggled at the beginning also then supported their parents and kids at the same time. They understood that and accepted it because they did what they had to do.
e. This generations relationship continued until the ‘me’ generation that wanted the parents to support them indefinitely. That notion has migrated through and now kids do not even want to move out of their parents’ homes!!!
f. Baby boomers gave their offspring good opportunity to a higher education that they did not have themselves.
g. Who generated the wealth the article talks about? The article admits to the fact that parents of baby boomers were not rich meaning that baby boomers generated their own wealth, now it is your turn to do the same instead of free loading and complaining!!
h. Baby boomers made huge changes in science, political and social arenas some of which are social benefits that did not exist before. They paid for that and their parents who did not pay a cent for that benefited too.
i. As for the ‘Environment’ science of the day was not sophisticated as now. Again that is not the fault of baby boomers alone. You enjoyed driving your car when you were young and still do, don’t you? Having said that even now many people from newer generations still not convinced. It is not dry cut and may be because we are not being told the truth but that is another story.
j. Your grandchildren will be poor not because of baby boomers. Wake up and smell the coffee, look for the real reasons of middle class slow demise. Does your head hurt to think for yourself?
k. Previous generations retired at age 55 then 60 and now 65, OK? Get your facts straight.
3- I have reservations and lots of doubts about the real reason and motive behind that article. I am sure we all know and saw it in movies if a mob wants to do a big job without police interference they create a diversion. That is exactly what this ‘baby boomers’ crap is all about? Put it out there and turn the heat on and let these morons fight between themselves. The article says that they are ‘leaving larger government debts’, REALLY and who is responsible about that debt genius? Most baby boomers are still working and generating wealth. Leave the real culprit and bite the victim. The article is full of misleading information, deceitful tricks, half-truths and even out right lies and that is why I believe that article is nothing more than a badly written diversion.
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