Seeking Man's Favor: The Root of Religious Unbelief!
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Quite a few of the Cardinal sins it doesn't follow: pride, envy, etc.
No more crooked than any government of any nation, neither are held accountable. The RCC has never been without a lot of political clout. They act as a law unto themselves as do the governments that listen them. They also twist the Bible to mean something that it never supported, governments have no moral restraints on how it treats the common people. People can do those very same acts without religion playing any part at all. Christianity may claim the moral high ground, only slightly behind Judaism in arrogance, any denomination falls well short of perfection.
In the decimation of the Native children of Canada was the Government or the RCC the authority that allowed the abuses? It's fine to 'make the Church responsible' but that could be letting the real culprits off. Those abuses would have had the nod from the Gov, perhaps even a set of 'orders' in that it was the Gov that ran the wars and created the Treaties that set up the RCC as being the 'guardians' of the children.
I have come home. I have entered humanhood, bound to rocks and plants, men and women, rivers and sky. I shall be with you in this and other worlds. When the cat arches in the doorway, think of me. I have sometimes been like that. When two men greet each other in the street, I am there speaking to you. When you look up, know I am there - sun and moon pouring my love around you. All these things I am, portents, images, signs. Though apart, I am a part of you. One of the million things in the universe, I am the universe, too. You think I disguise myself as rivers and trees simply to confuse you? Whatever I am, woman, cat or lotus, the same god breathes in every body. You and I together are a single creation. Neither death nor spite nor fear nor ignorance stops my love for you...[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Excerpted from "Awakening Osiris - The Egyptian Book of the Dead." Copyright © 1988 Normandi Ellis.[/SIZE]
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You're right about that much, but wrong about everything else, in particular where those spiritual influences come from. Read Jill Bolte Taylor's book, My Stroke of Insight, or just look at her speech about it here: Jill Bolte Taylor's stroke of insight | Video on TED.com
It seems perfectly clear to me from those that what we identify as religious or spiritual influences come entirely from inside our own heads. Assorted religious and spiritual rituals, like chanting and singing and the saying of rosaries, have a sort of auto-hypnotic effect that suppresses some of the higher cognitive functions of the brain's left hemisphere and allow the right hemisphere a little more control.
The roots of religious unbelief are simply knowledge of how things really work.
Other Gods mean squat to God. How could this verse be mistranslated into being something other than what it says? Just so you don't twist this, it means those emotions are felt until you are back where you belong even if you want to remain with the enemies of God. Be thankful you just get tuned in rather than really being pushed away from Him. If that concept bothers you sin right then and there and it will be changed as your heart desires, poof into the lake.
Na:1:2:
God is jealous,
and the LORD revengeth;
the LORD revengeth,
and is furious;
the LORD will take vengeance on his adversaries,
and he reserveth wrath for his enemies.
lmao Yeah, right.
Commandment #1:
You shall have no other gods before me.
If this vain, murderous creep was number one and not afraid of the others, why would would it have to even say that? Why hasn't it gotten rid of all the others? oooo I'm tough because I say so.roflmao
But anyway, it can't even follow its own commandments and it is supposed to be perfect, so how in the hell can it expect us imperfect ones to follow them? That's just the apex of stupidity.
Yes.
As far as I know, no gods write books. Plenty of gods have books written about them, though.
So if you reject God then does that mean that when Neb's son had the men killed that plotted to have Daniel eaten by lions meets with your approval of the way to remedy a situation? Should we kill the members of our Governments when they plot to do things that affect our lives in a negative way? How about if we followed his example even more closely, he had all the members of their families killed also.
Some dead elected officials might be enough to turn the rest into honest people working for the tax-payers. A few dead families would almost guarantee that the ones keeping them in line would be their very own family members.
I'm sure Christ has the mandate to punish all Shepherds that have gone astray. I suppose you will even find an objection to that, cry that He isn't interacting and cry even louder about the way He says that interaction begins. Some people will just never be happy it seems.
Isa:56:11:
Yea,
they are greedy dogs which can never have enough,
and they are shepherds that cannot understand:
they all look to their own way,
every one for his gain,
from his quarter.
Isa:56:12:
Come ye,
say they,
I will fetch wine,
and we will fill ourselves with strong drink;
and to morrow shall be as this day,
and much more abundant.
Some dead elected officials might be enough to turn the rest into honest people working for the tax-payers. A few dead families would almost guarantee that the ones keeping them in line would be their very own family members.
I'm sure Christ has the mandate to punish all Shepherds that have gone astray. I suppose you will even find an objection to that, cry that He isn't interacting and cry even louder about the way He says that interaction begins. Some people will just never be happy it seems.
Isa:56:11:
Yea,
they are greedy dogs which can never have enough,
and they are shepherds that cannot understand:
they all look to their own way,
every one for his gain,
from his quarter.
Isa:56:12:
Come ye,
say they,
I will fetch wine,
and we will fill ourselves with strong drink;
and to morrow shall be as this day,
and much more abundant.
Who said anything about rejecting any gods? I didn't. And I don't. I just think they are irrelevant.
Not mine personally.
Nah.
I am not a jealous, murderous hypocrite so why should I follow such a god's example? I am fine with being me.
Go ahead if you want to follow your god's example. I won't because I respect life.
Assuming about me again? Tsk tsk tsk.
Why did you post that? What relevance has it? Or did you mean that it describes me?
Yea, I say unto thee, lop off a few transgressing politicians' heads and bring about good, honest government. "If thine hand offends thee, lop it off. If a politician offends thee.....!"
Anna as nice as a person as you most likely are in person I have to say this. I do not think there are any verses in any part of the Bible that are about you, in even a small role. Those Shepherds are the men in the Nations that have been able to order their sword (military forces) around in an attempt to fight evil forces. When the motive changes to concern for themselves over concern for the ones they were meant to keep safe then those are the shepherds that will be howling at Christ's arrival. That would cover all Governments for all Nations for the last 2,000 years. That is who those verses are meant for. Same as these ones in the verses below so unless you are the Queen of England I wouldn't worry too much about what befalls them.
Jer:25:33:
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.
Jer:25:34:
Howl,
ye shepherds,
and cry;
and wallow yourselves in the ashes,
ye principal of the flock:
for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are accomplished;
and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel.
That is how it was handled far in the past, whole families still sometimes pay the price even today.
God is quite willing to idlely stand by while His People are being killed by the same sword that was meant to protect them. All because of this transgression far in the past.
Jer:26:8:
Now it came to pass,
when Jeremiah had made an end of speaking all that the LORD had commanded him to speak unto all the people,
that the priests and the prophets and all the people took him,
saying,
Thou shalt surely die.
Jer:26:9:
Why hast thou prophesied in the name of the LORD,
saying,
This house shall be like Shiloh,
and this city shall be desolate without an inhabitant?
And all the people were gathered against Jeremiah in the house of the LORD.
The sins of the fathers, is it? Nice guy, punishes people for things their ancestors did. What about the promise in Matthew 7, ask and it shall be given, seek and you shall find, and all the rest of it in verses 7-11? And you wonder why I reject this stuff as nonsense?
Well, actually I doubt that you wonder about that at all, I'm sure you believe you know why I reject it, you've got it all neatly rationalized based on assorted biblical references about doubters and questioners and fools. And I'm also sure you're completely wrong about why I reject it, there is no biblical reference that'll correctly explain it.
Well if you were a bit more lucid as to what you were referring to, people might understand you easier. I just asked for clarification and you ASSume I thought you were talking about me. Have another sniff of glue.
Thank you for clearing that up. Finally.:roll:
Yup, there's sure an awful lot of nasty stuff done by your loving and caring god.