Rogers apologizes for Maclean's Quebec cover

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Rogers apologizes for Maclean's Quebec cover - CTV News

MONTREAL — The company that owns Maclean's magazine has expressed regret over an issue that has caused an uproar in Quebec. Federal and provincial politicians have lambasted the magazine for this week's issue that tagged Quebec with the unflattering label of Canada's most corrupt province.

"The cover of this issue and the feature story clearly offended some readers, and this has been the subject of much debate," Brian Segal, president of Rogers Publishing (TSX:RCI), said in a statement Thursday.

"On behalf of the company, we sincerely regret any offence that the cover may have caused."

The magazine has steadfastly refused to apologize -- and says it's Quebec's politicians who should be sorry.

In fact, its answer to those politicians was defiantly stamped Thursday in an editorial on the front of the magazine website.

But Rogers has extensive business interests in Quebec, including its French-language magazine L'Actualite and cellphone shops. It was a little more contrite.

It sought to distance itself from the editorial choices of Maclean's staff.

"We value all of our customers and their perspective. Quebec is an important market for the company and we look forward to participating in the dynamic growth of the province and its citizens," Segal said.

"As a company we own a broad range of media properties across the country and editorial independence is an important cornerstone of our management philosophy.

"While challenging at times, this means we do not interfere with the editorial direction or content of our media properties in any way."

In its statement the company did not, however, use the words "sorry" or "apology."

Yet nowhere do I see any explanation about what the article consisted of or what particular aspect of the province they were focusing on, thus taken out of context or perhaps legit in their claims.

I hear nothing about whether or not the article was correct or somehow justified.... just a bunch of people getting all uppity because it doesn't compliment the province.

Maybe it was in relation to the courts/judges/police being corrupt or influenced by criminal activity...... maybe it was the politicians they were talking about....... maybe everything about Quebec...... but nothing is actually said.

Did anybody read this article or issue of the magazine to know what it's all about?
 

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The worst neighbourhood accompanied by crime statistics to back it up is plausible. I haven't seen how they decided to rank our provinces, to know that one is more corrupt than another, let alone if one is worst of all.

Govt construction costs are on average up to 30 % higher in Quebec compared to Ontario - Perhaps the invoices are translated differently

But Quebecers are full of it - They still think that they support the ROC - Wonder where that 8 Billion or so under equalization etc they got last year came from - Mostly AB.

But Nope - They support us and yes they are quite distinct in some ways that are not credible.
 

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My father told me about the Quebec corruption years ago, there
was a saying that started in Quebec, Vote early and vote often.
Duplessis of the old Union Nationale was extremely corrupt and he
used the Church to keep in power for years.
In Quebec, there is a long history of corruption, not only in the
political arena but almost everywhere else as well.
The Olympics in Montreal, the Centennial Exhibition in sixty seven,
they were all the same corrupt as hell. It is ingrained like long
standing tradition. Some of those same attributes have also
rubbed off on other Provinces, but like Huey Long in the southern
state of Louisiana, Quebec has always been known for its political
slight of hand. Indignation only comes to the fore when someone
actually points it out.
 

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Quebec is the only province with almost
a free press .
We can read news you can"t in the jewish
controlled press.
Wow - Another Anti Semite from Quebec- What a freaking surprise that is - perhaps you should read None is to many - it is available in French and see how Quebec influenced Canadian Govt policy prior to WW2 and the turning away of Jews.

Or as some veterans, from WW2 who have stated to me regarding Conscription - They either ran to the woods or suddenly became priests - And no I do know of those from Quebec who fought and died for Canada - not Quebec - But Canada.

Your post clearly show what a freaking loser you are. A racist to me is lower than whale shxt in the Marianas Trench.

But what more can you expect from a Province that thinks they support the rest of Canada.
 

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Well you can read the article for yourself at Quebec: The most corrupt province - Canada - Macleans.ca

I thought it was pretty reasonable, especially when there was a brief discussion that stated Quebec was not alone but rather the frequency of scandals was much higher.

Certainly, Quebec doesn’t have a monopoly on bad behaviour. It was in British Columbia that three premiers—Bill Vander Zalm, Mike Harcourt and Glen Clark—were punted from office in short order for a variety of shenanigans by their governments in the 1990s. In the mid-’90s, no less than 12 members of Saskatchewan Conservative premier Grant Devine’s government were charged in relation to an $837,000 expense account scheme. Sir John A. Macdonald, Canada’s first prime minister—and the first to go down in scandal, with his government forced to resign—came from Ontario. And the East Coast? “The record of political chicanery is so overflowing in the Maritimes that they could likely teach Quebec a few tricks,” Montreal Gazette political writer Hubert Bauch once wrote.

I also agreed with some (not all) of what Andrew Coyne had to say ( http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/09/24/what-lies-beneath-quebecs-scandals/ ) in particular this gem:

The scandal is what’s legal. Outright corruption, as Michael Kinsley’s aphorism suggests, is only the tip of the ethical iceberg. People in politics are given to seeking refuge behind the law: so long as you do not actually commit a crime, you haven’t done anything wrong. Mere patronage or pork-barrelling is excused, so long as you don’t actually pocket the money.
In any case, it’s a false distinction. Once you get in the habit of spending the public’s money as if it were your own, it’s all too easy to forget whose money it really is. And, ethical standards having been so easily breached, you may find the guard rail of legality incapable of braking your momentum.


I don't think MacLeans has/had anything to apologize for, but rather did a preliminary pass at an important facet of Canadian political culture... but then again I'm from Alberta so I'm a biggoted redneck by default...
 

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Bush has now been thrown out in this Thread....but nothing about Nazis. I'm confused.
Usually it's Nazis, then Bush....or even sometimes in the same sentence, but...variety
is the spice of life I guess.

Oh yeah. This Thread has nothing to do with Bush or Nazis. Yeah...thats right, I think...

 

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Gadfly, leave the church alone? The church orchastrated most of the corruption.
The churched preached, the Union Nationale, was blessed and should be in
charge of the province. Duplessis was owned lot stock and barrel by the church.
I am a retired Catholic myself and I heard the rhetoric about the extoling the
virtues of the conservative agenda. The staus quo, is all important.
Today the power brokers in Quebec are divided, some in the Tory camp and the
Federal Liberals, and the Bloc as well. Imagine, the Liberal Premier is a former
Progressive Conservative MP. what does that tell you?
Corruption is not limited to Quebec however. we see the courts looking into the
problems in BC with Basi Virk, and we are also looking at the problems with the
Nova Scotia members expense accounts and those cross party lines.
Quebec is just better at it than most, and usually it does not see the light of day.
 

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Rogers apologizes for Maclean's Quebec cover - CTV News



Yet nowhere do I see any explanation about what the article consisted of or what particular aspect of the province they were focusing on, thus taken out of context or perhaps legit in their claims.

I hear nothing about whether or not the article was correct or somehow justified.... just a bunch of people getting all uppity because it doesn't compliment the province.

Maybe it was in relation to the courts/judges/police being corrupt or influenced by criminal activity...... maybe it was the politicians they were talking about....... maybe everything about Quebec...... but nothing is actually said.

Did anybody read this article or issue of the magazine to know what it's all about?


Yes, I read it. The article claimed "all of the above".

2 nations in one country. Remember the French
came first to Canada and with them the Church emissaries
who were the only ones ,grosso modo, who knew how to
write and read.The Church had the mission to convert the
natives and also the double mission to save the french language and
the Catholic faith.

In the 50ths we had la revolution tranquille ....Things started to change.


Yes the Church caused probles....The Romans would say....
Consider --tempora et mores--Now we have a Prime Minister
the prototype of idiocy...in love with the fascist state of America
and -vox populi- he still makes love the missionary way.

My man was Pierre Trudeau.
An anedocte about him.
Was sitting in a table in a restaurant
with my wife ...Trudeau with a girl was
sitting in a table near us but there was an empty table
in between us.
2 hippy types with registrator in their back
tried to seat in the empty table.
My wife put her purse on the empty table
and told the guys the place was taken...we were expecting friends to join us.
The hippies started to complain ,while Trudeau with his 2 arms crossed
on his chest and a smile was watching .
The hippies went away..Trudeau told my wife
"thanks ,blondie, a hundred times but I would had thanked you
a thousand times if you would had let them sit ...
because I felt like sending both of them on the floor"

He sent us 2 glasses of wine...what a cheap millionaire..

Why let facts get in the way? It is not that Quebec is populated mostly by French speaking people, that the rest of Canada has a problem with. In fact most of us think the French culture has added emensely to the fabric of our Nation.. It is the fact that Politicians, the Press, and judges, play that card to cover up the rotten core and to continue to perpetuate it, that we object to. Has worked well for them. They are all wealthy and have the protection of the Courts.

We love the French citizens, they just have dishonest leadership.
 

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2 nations in one country. Remember the French
came first to Canada and with them the Church emissaries
who were the only ones ,grosso modo, who knew how to
write and read.The Church had the mission to convert the
natives and also the double mission to save the french language and
the Catholic faith.

Well I would argue the Natives and even the Norse came to Canada long before the French but thats kind of tangetal. The mission of the Church was to convert the "heathen" natives and "civilize" them. This talk of saving the French language is not something the Church would have officially sanctioned or adopted. It also has nothing to do with the culture of corruption that has arisen in Quebec.

In the 50ths we had la revolution tranquille ....Things started to change.

Thats all well and good except nothing really changed except the perception that Francophones held more seats in the "circles of power" than they had previously. Graft, influence peddling and corruption didn't decrease, but rather seemed to become more the norm.

Yes the Church caused probles....The Romans would say....
Consider --tempora et mores--Now we have a Prime Minister
the prototype of idiocy...in love with the fascist state of America
and -vox populi- he still makes love the missionary way.

This is confusing to me. How is the Church responsible for the corruption in Quebec? Did the Church buy politicians' support on issues? The claim of "America" (I understand this to be directed at the United States and not the entire 2 continents that make up America) being facist is a stretch. And what has Harper's supposed infatuation with the US or his sexual habbits got to do with Quebec corruption, other than the fact that he (or at least members of his party) has joined a long line of politicians and plays into to it, to a degree.

My man was Pierre Trudeau.
An anedocte about him.
Was sitting in a table in a restaurant
with my wife ...Trudeau with a girl was
sitting in a table near us but there was an empty table
in between us.
2 hippy types with registrator in their back
tried to seat in the empty table.
My wife put her purse on the empty table
and told the guys the place was taken...we were expecting friends to join us.
The hippies started to complain ,while Trudeau with his 2 arms crossed
on his chest and a smile was watching .
The hippies went away..Trudeau told my wife
"thanks ,blondie, a hundred times but I would had thanked you
a thousand times if you would had let them sit ...
because I felt like sending both of them on the floor"

He sent us 2 glasses of wine...what a cheap millionaire..

So... you revere the memory of arguably the worst Prime Minister in Canadian history but you thought he was cheap because he only bought you and your wife a drink rather than rewarding you more for eliminating a situation that might have become embarassing to him at some point? What did you expect: a medal? A new car?
 

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So... you revere the memory of arguably the worst Prime Minister in Canadian history but you thought he was cheap because he only bought you and your wife a drink rather than rewarding you more for eliminating a situation that might have become embarassing to him at some point? What did you expect: a medal? A new car?
Well you missed our most corrupt PM from quebec, the cretin, but turdeau was right up there.
 

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Well you missed our most corrupt PM from quebec, the cretin, but turdeau was right up there.
(a little off topic, but...) I'm a little confused. From reading your posts I have surmised that you are both conservative and anti-American. Trudeau and Cretien were the only PMs that stood up to the Americans and did not cow tow to their wishes. Meanwhile, conservative PMs have sold out Canada's resources and sovereignty (Free Trade) to the Yanks.
 

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In answer to Risus, Gadfly didn't really bring up Chretien except in that myth about him refusing to do what the Americans wanted with Iraq (except they never asked us for troops... our ships in Persian Gulf can't really refuse to screen the American carriers etc when they do Iraqi missions instead of Afghan ones).

(a little off topic, but...) I'm a little confused. From reading your posts I have surmised that you are both conservative and anti-American. Trudeau and Cretien were the only PMs that stood up to the Americans and did not cow tow to their wishes. Meanwhile, conservative PMs have sold out Canada's resources and sovereignty (Free Trade) to the Yanks.

Don't kid yourself: they both wanted to sell us off to others instead. Trudeau wanted us to be closer to the Soviets and was always kissing Brezhnev's butt. Chretien wanted us sold in part to his relations in France and mostly to China. Given those choices I'll gladly accept the Yanks.
 

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Hmm... The scandals he mentions were all caused by Quebec federalists. There seems to be a pattern here.

Perhaps I should right an article on how federalists are corrupt.
 

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Bush has now been thrown out in this Thread....but nothing about Nazis. I'm confused.
Usually it's Nazis, then Bush....or even sometimes in the same sentence, but...variety
is the spice of life I guess.

Oh yeah. This Thread has nothing to do with Bush or Nazis. Yeah...thats right, I think...


ROTFLMAO!

The Quebecois were fascist supporters of Mussolini in the 30s.......including our national hero, Trudeau.

Close enough, or do I have to dig up AH himself?

BTW, the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth:

David Frum: Quebec’s outrage is understandable. The truth hurts | Full Comment | National Post