Right-wing extremist pleads 'not guilty' to massacre

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"Right wing" (hate that term) extremism" is an oxymoron. As ridiculous as saying conservative is extreme!
 

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It's rooted in paranoia and xenophobia driven by TV and various other forms of media.

TV/Media are simply tools and technology. It's the content (or the information) which is pervasive and may lead to unrealistic assumptions about the world around us.

"Right wing" (hate that term) extremism" is an oxymoron. As ridiculous as saying conservative is extreme!

It's the action taken to propel a certain view that forms the extremism.

You didn't understand my post.
 

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Then the alarm clock goes off....

 

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Has Norway slipped beyond any kind of reason? This guy has blown up a number of people, he then casually shot another sixty or so men women and children. He gave himself up before police could shoot him. Now people are talking about setting this lunatic free. It doesn't sound like Norway can handle a crime of this magnitude....perhaps the UN should step in and execute this animal.
 

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Anders Behring Breivik: 'I would have done it again'

OSLO - The Norwegian anti-Islamic gunman who massacred 77 people said in court on Tuesday his shooting spree and bomb attack were "sophisticated and spectacular" and that he would do the same thing again.

Anders Behring Breivik, 33, has pleaded not guilty and said he was defending his country by setting off a car bomb that killed eight people at government headquarters in Oslo last July, then shooting another 69 people at a youth summer camp organized by the ruling Labour Party.

Taking the stand at his trial for the first time, the high school drop-out read from a statement for an hour, ignoring pleas from the judge to stop and sparking criticism from victims he was being allowed to use the trial for violent propaganda.

The killer, a former business fraudster who lived with his mother, invoked Native American warriors such as Sitting Bull, raged against Islam and multicultural "hell" and warned of "rivers of blood" in Europe.

"I have carried out the most sophisticated and spectacular political attack committed in Europe since the Second World War," Breivik told the court in a monotonous, unemotional voice, seated with one hand on his papers and another on his leg.

"The July 22 attacks were preemptive attacks to defend the Norwegian people and the Norwegian ethnicity."

"Yes, I would have done it again, because offences against my people ... are many times as bad," he said.

His attacks were "based on goodness, not evil," he added.

While he will likely be kept behind bars for the rest of his life, Breivik's main objective is to prove he is sane, a court judgement that he sees as vindicating his anti-Muslim and anti-immigration cause.

He has said being labelled insane would be a "fate worse than death".

If found guilty and sane, Breivik faces a maximum 21-year sentence but could be held indefinitely if he is considered a continuing danger.


Before Tuesday's statement, Breivik had promised to be sensitive to victims and tone down his rhetoric. But the court audience, including survivors, shifted in their chairs, rolled their eyes, and murmured with impatience during his speech.

He ignored the repeated pleas of an angry judge to stop talking. When Breivik started talking about Japan and South Korea as role models, the judge asked him "to limit himself to Norwegian issues."

Breivik's testimony, which will go on for five days, will not be broadcast on television due to concerns that the gunman could use the trial as propaganda for his violent cause.

"He is getting what he wants and I don't want to be a part of that," survivor Hildegunn Fallang said.

The day began in controversy when the court dismissed a lay judge because he posted a comment on a Facebook page days after the massacre saying the gunman should face the death penalty.

Two professional judges, as well as three lay judges chosen from civil society, preside over the court. The judge, who will be replaced, posted "The death penalty is the only just outcome of this case" on a Facebook page.

"PROPAGANDA"

Breivik appeared for the first time in court on Monday, giving a clenched-fist salute, smirking at the court and pleading not guilty in a trial that threatens to showcase his anti-Islamic views.

Breivik listened impassively for hours as prosecutors read out an indictment detailing how he massacred teenagers trapped on a island resort outside Oslo. He only shed tears when the court later showed one of his propaganda videos.

Breivik shot most of his victims several times, often using the first shot to take down his target then following up with a shot to the head. His youngest victim was 14. He later surrendered as "commander of the Norwegian resistance movement".

The trial is scheduled to last 10 weeks.

More than 200 people sat in the specially built courtroom while about 700 attack survivors and family members of victims watched on closed-circuit video around the country.

His defence team has called 29 witnesses to argue Breivik was sane, including Mullah Krekar, the Kurdish founder of Islamist group Ansar al-Islam, who was recently jailed in Norway for making death threats, and "Fjordman," a right-wing blogger who influenced Breivik.

Breivik is scheduled to testify for about a week.

Video: Anders Behring Breivik: 'I would have done it again'
 
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Has Norway slipped beyond any kind of reason? This guy has blown up a number of people, he then casually shot another sixty or so men women and children. He gave himself up before police could shoot him. Now people are talking about setting this lunatic free. It doesn't sound like Norway can handle a crime of this magnitude....perhaps the UN should step in and execute this animal.

Oooooooh!! When was the last time the U.N. executed anyone? :lol:
 

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I know that most of us enjoy a good polarized arguement, but....

If any claimed that I was as insane as this psycho, i would quickly put him on ignore. Just saying...
 

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I know that most of us enjoy a good polarized arguement, but....

If any claimed that I was as insane as this psycho, i would quickly put him on ignore. Just saying...

It depends on how far you would go to impose your views on others.
 

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Has Norway slipped beyond any kind of reason? This guy has blown up a number of people, he then casually shot another sixty or so men women and children. He gave himself up before police could shoot him. Now people are talking about setting this lunatic free. It doesn't sound like Norway can handle a crime of this magnitude....perhaps the UN should step in and execute this animal.

I think Norwegians should be proud that their criminal justice system never turned this into a circus. I have confidence Breivik will be found guilty and get the maximum sentence. In 21 years, he'll still remain a threat to society and get an additional 5 years. Repeated until he's an old man. His only chance at freedom will come after Europe becomes Eurabia and Europeans are enslaved in Dhimmitude.
 

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I think Norwegians should be proud that their criminal justice system never turned this into a circus. I have confidence Breivik will be found guilty and get the maximum sentence. In 21 years, he'll still remain a threat to society and get an additional 5 years. Repeated until he's an old man. His only chance at freedom will come after Europe becomes Eurabia and Europeans are enslaved in Dhimmitude.

I've known and know a few Norwegians, they are cool, calm and collected people, but I doubt if they will spend a million Krona studying this lunatic. :smile:
 

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"Right-wing extremism" is to denote that the original influence is based on right-wing ideology to such a degree that the individual is willing to take extreme measures (such as violence) to enforce that ideology.

The source of Breivik's malaise is either rooted in some form of conservatism or christian theology. Extremism is an important modifier as we could have islamic extremism, atheist extremism - hell, even buddhist extremism.

Oh give it a break!

Breivik's views are not of a political nature, even extremism requires some sort of coherent linear thought leading to rational, if twisted, conclusion.

Breivik managed none of that.

He is cookoo, whacky, crazy, bananas, psycho, nuts, looney, batty, whatever the hell you want to call it.

Even HE denies that he is a Christian.

Read the bloody manifesto,