Right-wing extremist pleads 'not guilty' to massacre

willqccan

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I'm reading a book about serial killers right now and I think he fits well in one of the types mentionned.
There are 4 types of serial killers:
- The ones that want to feel they are dominating and all-powerful (ex: rapists)
- The ones that kill for pleasure (ex: to get high or for money)
- The ones that think they have a special mission (like getting rid of certain people for the good of the society, mostly racists like Mr. Breivik here)
The killers from those 3 categories are not insane but they have behaviour problems, like anyone with violence problems.

The last category concerns the ones hearing voices or having visions and those are insane.

Source: Nadia Fezzani, Mes tueurs en série (My serial killers)
 

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Breivik's mission is to save Norway from becoming part of a greater Eurabia. Breivik came to fear Muslim immigration after reading Islamaphobic books and blogs. His fear became anger when he came to the conclusion that Norway's political elite are wittingly or unwittingly contributing to and accelerating Muslim colonization of Norway. Anger drove Breivik's murderous rampage, not insanity.

People who share Breivik's fear and hate of Muslims don't want to believe Breivik is sane. Otherwise they'd have to consider where their personal fear and hate could lead... and that makes them uncomfortable.

Breivik's actions were undoubtedly extreme, but extreme actions do not prove insanity.
 
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Breivik accuses experts of lies as he pleads for his sanity

OSLO — Anders Behring Breivik, who wants to be found accountable for his massacre of 77 people in Norway last July, on Wednesday accused a team of psychiatric experts of making things up to prove him insane.

Breivik is seeking to convince an Oslo court that he is sane so that his anti-Islam ideology will be taken seriously and not considered the ravings of a lunatic, even though it would mean a prison sentence rather than psychiatric care.

The 33-year-old right-wing extremist has already said that being sentenced to closed psychiatric care would be "worse than death".

A first psychiatric evaluation last year concluded that he was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia, but a second opinion found him of sound mind.

On Wednesday, he challenged the first examination, which he claims contains "more than 200 lies" in a diagnosis he has called "the ultimate humiliation."

"These are ill-willed fabrications," Breivik told the court Wednesday, referring to passages from the report.

He later added: "They may not be ill-willed, but they are in any case wrong."

Psychiatrists Synne Soerheim and Torgeir Husby were appointed by the Oslo district court to carry out the first evaluation.

Their conclusion in November that Breiviok was psychotic cleared the way for him to be sent to a closed psychiatric ward for treatment instead of prison.

But the diagnosis caused an uproar in Norway, where many were astounded that the man who methodically planned his attacks for years and then executed them with precision could be found not responsible for his actions.

The court therefore ordered a second opinion by two other experts, who concluded earlier this month that Breivik was sane.

A third panel of experts charged with verifying the validity of the reports has found weaknesses in the second evaluation and asked the authors to provide additional information.

It will ultimately be up to the judges to determine whether he is sane when they hand down their verdict in July.

Breivik told the court Wednesday that "80 percent of the content from the interviews (on which the first two psychiatrists based their conclusions) is invented."

The two experts drew their conclusion "very early" and aimed the rest of their work at proving their diagnosis was correct, he said.

"They were emotionally affected (by the attacks) and they were not competent to evaluate a person responsible for political violence," he said.

"If I had read a description of the person they describe, I would have agreed: this person needs psychiatric care," he said, adding: "But the person described in this report is not me."

Breivik reiteratedon Wednesday that he does not want to "end up in an asylum" and said he had exchanged letters with a Swedish militant nationalist who described his own treatment in a psychiatric ward as "a chemical lobotomy."

"He says it's awful. He sits at a table drooling," he said.

Breivik has been charged with "acts of terror" and faces either 21 years in prison -- a sentence that could be extended indefinitely if he is still considered a threat to society -- or closed psychiatric care, possibly for life.

Earlier this week, he lamented in court that his sanity was being questioned.

He claimed to be the victim of "clear racism" and accused the prosecution of trying to "delegitimise" his Islamophobic ideology.

"If I had been a bearded Jihadi there would be no report at all... There would not be a need for a psychiatric evaluation," he said.

Breivik set off a bomb near the government offices on July 22 that killed eight people, then went to nearby Utoeya island where he killed 69 people, mostly teens, attending a Labour Party youth camp.

He has said his attacks were "cruel but necessary" to stop the ruling Labour Party's "multicultural experiment" and the "Muslim invasion" of Norway and Europe.

AFP: Breivik accuses experts of lies as he pleads for his sanity
 

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Breivik's mission is to save Norway from becoming part of a greater Eurabia. Breivik came to fear Muslim immigration after reading Islamaphobic books and blogs. His fear became anger when he came to the conclusion that Norway's political elite are wittingly or unwittingly contributing to and accelerating Muslim colonization of Norway. Anger drove Breivik's murderous rampage, not insanity.
So you agree with Breviek. Muslims are taking over Europe and pose a threat to the west.

Good to know.

People who share Breivik's fear and hate of Muslims don't want to believe Breivik is sane. Otherwise they'd have to consider where their personal fear and hate could lead... and that makes them uncomfortable.
Your childish attack aside. But you agree with Breviek. Your premise is hinged on it.

Breivik's actions were undoubtedly extreme, but extreme actions do not prove insanity.
True, but delusions do.

Either he delusion-ally believed Muslims were taking over Europe, or he was right, and his anger at that, pushed him to commit unspeakable acts.

I find it interesting that you admit his position was correct.

Not even Colpy believes that.

BTW; EAO, I noted that instead of addressing my posts, as Tonington did, you resorted to a cowardly personal attack.

Might I remind you of...

Please refrain from PERSONAL ATTACKS and keep this thread ON TOPIC!!
 
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Breivik's mission is to save Norway from becoming part of a greater Eurabia. Breivik came to fear Muslim immigration after reading Islamaphobic books and blogs. His fear became anger when he came to the conclusion that Norway's political elite are wittingly or unwittingly contributing to and accelerating Muslim colonization of Norway. Anger drove Breivik's murderous rampage, not insanity.

People who share Breivik's fear and hate of Muslims don't want to believe Breivik is sane. Otherwise they'd have to consider where their personal fear and hate could lead... and that makes them uncomfortable.

Breivik's actions were undoubtedly extreme, but extreme actions do not prove insanity.

The legal line between sane and insane is quite thin. Now consider the 1st diagnosis - consider how he wanted to be declared sane and then the 2nd diagnosis. Why even the insane can appear sane to professionals, can they not. But this does not fit your agenda.