Rick Santorum

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Unless conservatives decide to agree on what kind of pony they like, it won't matter who goes up against Obama come election time.
 

L Gilbert

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Oh ya, there's just so many of us on this forum! :lol: Two by my count!
lol You aren't even close to Coldstream's league.

It has nothing to do with Obama's skin color! Few things would please me more than to see Alan Keyes become President!
That`s just you, IBM. I`ve heard and read all kinds of things from Obama being a bad prez because people think his wife has a big a$$, to stupid comments about his brillo-pad haircut, and he needs a teleprompter at speeches. Comments about his skin color are just as stupid, but they are around.
 

EagleSmack

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Borderline bigot? Kinda like all the conservative/republican types who hate Obama and try to pretend it has to do with how he is running the country instead of because he is half black? A friend was commenting today how bigotry and racism are so much alive and doing well in US politics. Seems to also be linked to Christian fundamentalists, including those on this forum.

I agree. Liberal Democrats are constantly playing the race card when they don't have a solution or answer. Your post is a classic example.

However the race card is played so often these days that it is laughed at. Nobody is phased by it at all.
 

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damngrumpy

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Rick is the flavour of the week and Mit should not concern himself with these victories.
They are Midwest Bible Belt wins and the crowd is limited on the main stage of life.
Mind you Mit is no better, and Newt is a joke. These people are pandering to the extreme
right focus, and their message is about God, fear, and dominate others. The new wave
of Republicanism has thrown common sense out the window in favor of a dog and pony
show the like of which we have not seen in more than half a century.
Santorum is one of those bigots who hides behind the Lord, Mit tries to appeal to the moderate
crowd and the only way for him to do that is quit hanging out with the current Republican crowd.
The current state of the Republicans is not about conservative fiscal policy, it is about the
social conservative agenda to institute their version of Christianity and fundamentalist morals,
and enforce them on the general population. Have you noticed they start talking about money
and the next thing you know the nonsense starts about almost everything except fiscal issues.
What are the Republicans faced with?
Mit has a slim chance at best and some of the statements he has made will isolate him from
the mainstream American view of the world and he will not have the same opportunities against
Obama.
Newt is not electable, he is not much further ahead on like-ability than Pat Buchanan, and he is
not like able at all.
Rick Snatorum is one of those smiling Evangelicals because he has that religious agenda, that
Ace of Spades up his sleeve.
Of all of them Ron Paul is likely the only honest guy amongst them and his policy positions would
plunge America into the biggest financial crisis in decades.
America thrives on the war and weapons machines, to keep its economy going, after all it got rid
of its consumer manufacturing base in favor of attempting to develop a commerce and military
center for the world.
The fact is the manufacturing base left during the Republican years when Gilligan or George Bush
was at the helm. All I can say is God help us if any of this crop of Republicans is seated in the
Oval Office.
 

damngrumpy

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First of all I missed the message by Tonington and he is right to a large degree.
Obama is a conservative by Canadian standards. He was not intent of overturning
the conservative agenda, like Roosevelt was really a new deal conservative. He
was about getting the country out of the hole and not reforming the State as we
know it. Obama is not a socialist he is a moderate conservative with some liberal
tendencies and not many at that.
Clffy also had a good statement in concluding that the Evangelical right is behind
much of the bigotry against Obama. They will use anything to further their goals of
political domination of the American Agenda. The very people who should have
the morals to guide are using their self interest to dominate and that usually has a
very short shelf life. Joseph McCarthy was one of those people. The problem is
the amount of damage they do to society before their little reign of terror is over.
Personally I find very little difference between the Fundamentalist Christian agenda
and that of the fundamentalist Muslims. For both democracy is not even on their
radar political domination is the only prime factor.
 

damngrumpy

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Walter there are all kinds of terrorism. The so called Christians in America behave more like
terrorists on the human level than American Muslims. They are the masters of bully tactics and
they hide behind the Book of the Word to do their nasty deeds. They are not content with just
picking on the Gay community or any community that does not follow their belief system.
They attack other religions and groups that they feel might be a threat to them and their vision
of society. Some God they have that He needs defending by such a repulsive gang of political
thugs.
I am not saying this is indicative of all Christians, or even specific church groups but the
Evangelical movement has been out of touch with reality for nearly twenty years. Even the
Republican Party is plagued with them. The mainstream Republican is a fiscal conservative and
though I don't agree with them I respect them. The Evangelical Republicans have no regard for
any group except themselves. They also make the Republican Party itself look like a shill game
for their special interests.
Rick Santorum is a slick character I will give him that, and oh how he prays. Sometimes I think he
is really praying that he doesn't get caught at the game he plays, and his game is to put up a
sanctimonious front.
 

Cliffy

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I find that in non-religious people, too. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot come to mind.
So, you are comparing Romney, Santorum and the Newt to Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. Interesting! I agree that small minded bigots come in all shapes and colours, believers and nonbelievers.

Wally, if you don't like this comment, check out my last comment on the "what you want to hear in church" thread. You'll love that one.
 

coldstream

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Rich Santorum is a Catholic.. which i normally associate with a more sophisticated, progressive and dirigist economic policies than the Evangelicals that make up the bulk of the Republican social conservatives.

But i took a look at his economic plan... which is at least sensible enough to see that the collapse of manufacturing is at the heart of the American economic decline (the other candidates are still lost in New Age Global 'information' and 'green' economic nonsense).. but offers nothing but the same old libertarian crap as a solution.

It's no different than the Calvinist dogma that makes up the 'small government' movement.. which sees prosperity as soley as product of the Grace of God.. poverty as the absence thereof.. and human, and especially government, agency as futile. It's a program ruled by pessimism and inertia.

He has proposed nothing to reverse American economic fortunes.. which can only be realized by rejecting Free Trade and Monetarism and re-regulating the financial and investment sectors.. and implementing a comprehensive plan to re-establish an integrated industrial economy. He won't be able to beat Obama without offering something constructive.

I have some sympathy for Santorum's social agenda. He might be right there, the moral collapse of the U.S. into one dominated by a culture of death.. abortion, euthenasia, homosexual affirmation, rampant breakdown of the family especially amongst the poor, drug and alcohol dependence.. and a disastrous collapse of fertility rates (Santorum has 6 children)... might the be at the core of its being unable to address its practical economic issues.

It's in a malaise (so are we!).. and not one candidate, Obama or the Republican contenders is proposing a realistic solution.
 
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