Redefining pedophilia

earth_as_one

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All I can say is thank gawd the liberal close-up-magic social engineers will have the term re-named, softened and classified as a disorder. The poor sick perverts that simply watch Universal Royalty, the latest in 10 year-old lingerie layouts or your kids as they play in park...at least those misunderstood pathetic animals just go home (or into the bushes perhaps) and wank.

I mean, calling them pedophiles is just so, you know, dirty, cruel. Poor folks.

Minor-attracted is much more befitting for the poor conflicted souls.


Or....or, maybe, we could keep calling them pedophiles and stop giving-in to the incessant call for their rights or whatnot. Their 'feelings'.


And then someone will tell me I'm being unreasonable by suggesting that we publically cane and castrate them while selling the PPV rights to pay down the debt. Locutus they'd say, that's kooky talk.

Changing the way the medical profession views pedophilia won't change the laws, but it may change the way these people are treated and viewed. The current approach of imprisoning these people is a temporary solution. Sooner or later they serve their time and are released. Unlike bank robbers and murderers, pedophiles can't be "rehabilitated". Unlike people with mental disorders, these people can't be treated, except possibly with chemical castration.

Publishing their names and locations leads to another set of problems including vigilante justice and murder.

Nobody knows why Stephen Marshall killed two men who were on the sex-offender registry in Maine. Immediately after, he took his own life. One of the men Marshall killed, Joseph Gray, was on the registry for raping a child. The other, William Elliott, was listed because he'd slept with his girlfriend before she turned 16.
These deaths and others raise troubling questions about the public sex-offender registries which every state has. And they highlight the fact that many states list hard-core predators alongside people who may pose little risk to the community.
When Mark Perk read about the men murdered in Maine, he thought the same fate might have befallen him. "They put my name and address on there," Perk says. "Anyone can find me. Yeah, it scared us."
Perk is on Illinois' sex-offender registry for having a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old girl. She's now his wife and the mother of their two children. Perk says he knows he broke the law — but he says he's no child molester. He's just treated like one...
So this isn't a black and white issue, but many shades of gray...[/quote]
Murders Put Focus on Sex-Offender Registry Policies : NPR


I think the solution to the problems caused by pedophilia lies in prevention. People with pedophile tendencies need to be identified before they are adults and get help to control/manage their impulses and actions. That won't happen if identification leads to punishment, assault and murder... That would simply drive these people underground. Increasing the severity of the penalty, increases the stakes and makes it more likely that pedophile rape will lead to murder.


I support holding people responsible for their ACTIONS, but not their thoughts. What people think as they "wank" is none of my business. Everyone should be able to control their actions or face incarceration. But few people can control their thoughts and no one should go to prison for having illegal thoughts. If we can identify and treat people with pedophile thoughts before they commit pedophile acts, the medical profession and/or criminal justice system might be able to intervene before the person commits pedophile acts.
 
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Stretch

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They're Mainstreaming Paedophilia


Monday, 19 September 2011 08:52


'Alfred Kinsey's ongoing sexual anarchy campaign has no end in sight.
Matt Barber, associate dean of the Liberty University School of Law, and I attended the "B4U-ACT" pedophile conference Aug. 17. To eliminate the "stigma" against pedophiles, this growing sexual anarchist lobby wants the American Psychiatric Association (APA) to redefine pedophilia as a normal sexual orientation of "Minor-Attracted Persons."'
Read more: They're Mainstreaming Paedophilia
 

karrie

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I can't help but think that softening it, classifying it a disorder, making the 'mental health industry' welcoming to people who think this way, can only serve to protect children. God knows hunting pedophiles down and burning them at the stake never stemmed the flow. Humanity has spewed plenty of hate at those who are this uniquely twisted, and it certainly has never disappeared. Well guess what folks... the legal system already treats them as 'ill' rather than as hard criminals, it would be good if medicine caught up so that they can work alongside the fluff sentencing structures.
 

gerryh

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I can't help but think that softening it, classifying it a disorder, making the 'mental health industry' welcoming to people who think this way, can only serve to protect children. God knows hunting pedophiles down and burning them at the stake never stemmed the flow. Humanity has spewed plenty of hate at those who are this uniquely twisted, and it certainly has never disappeared. Well guess what folks... the legal system already treats them as 'ill' rather than as hard criminals, it would be good if medicine caught up so that they can work alongside the fluff sentencing structures.


Nope nope nope...... kill em...... a cap in the head........ castrate em........


ts, you might want to remove the thumbs up as I was being facetious. Typing what those with minimal brain functions are only able to consider.
 
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taxslave

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Well I can guarantee that if a pedophile ever touched my grandchildren there would be no need for a trial or a stay in club fed and no repeat offender.
 

JLM

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Well I can guarantee that if a pedophile ever touched my grandchildren there would be no need for a trial or a stay in club fed and no repeat offender.

That's my feeling on the matter, but the times they are a changin'. There are so many different varieties of whacko and miscreants today because our way of life has become quite easy and there is a broad tolerance, not to mention that survival of the fittest is now a moot point. Quite often the weak mentally are also weak physically and in the olden days wars kept things on an even keel.
 

Stretch

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it wasnt that long ago that being homosexual was deemed abhorrent and I dare say you guys would've said the same thing about them back then, but today there are madi gras celebrating homosexuality..........

A good friend of mine who was a police sargent at the time went to a training course about paedohiles and paedophilia.....he was pissed when he returned, because he was thinking he was going to learn new ways to catch them but instead, it was all about how to get the words paedophile and paedophilia out into the public to get them used to these words.............
 

Nuggler

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""""That's not the debate. Can we please move on to my point??? I am debating the legality of thoughts, not acts.""""

Of course thoughts are legal. (for now at least). But only because people can't read minds.

Acting on them, or encouraging others to do so is not.

If you want to "debate" this, go on facebook, and state your name and address, and say that you think pedophilia should be "redefined"., along with all the crap you give as "logic" or whatever.

Good luck with staying in one piece.
 

JLM

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it wasnt that long ago that being homosexual was deemed abhorrent and I dare say you guys would've said the same thing about them back then, but today there are madi gras celebrating homosexuality..........

A good friend of mine who was a police sargent at the time went to a training course about paedohiles and paedophilia.....he was pissed when he returned, because he was thinking he was going to learn new ways to catch them but instead, it was all about how to get the words paedophile and paedophilia out into the public to get them used to these words.............

Christ they've even come up with an exotic way to spell it. Nothing like dignifying it!
 

gerryh

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and it would be bye bye nuggler, and jlm, and taxslave. So, the big tough guys offed a pedophile, but effectively abandoned the rest of their family. There's intelligence.
 

JLM

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and it would be bye bye nuggler, and jlm, and taxslave. So, the big tough guys offed a pedophile, but effectively abandoned the rest of their family. There's intelligence.

Yep, sometimes a guy has to be a man and draw a line in the sand, children are the weakest members in society and if someone is going to desecrate them, then someone has to protect them.
 

Nuggler

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and it would be bye bye nuggler, and jlm, and taxslave. So, the big tough guys offed a pedophile, but effectively abandoned the rest of their family. There's intelligence.

Nope. They'd understand. Never said I was intelligent.(most would agree) Never said I would off anyone. They just would not be able to re-offend.

Well, bye bye perp might be misconstrued.................That's where the intelligence or lack thereof comes into play.

Just have to rent a good bottom dweller. The family would take up a collection. Uncle Vinny might even help some.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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I know of someone who did such a thing. I could kill him, bury him, eat a good meal and not lose a wink of sleep. Unfortunate that this piece of slime gets to walk around, but I would not give up my family to dispatch this scumbag.

They are more important to me than that. Bravado aside.
 

Nuggler

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I know of someone who did such a thing. I could kill him, bury him, eat a good meal and not lose a wink of sleep. Unfortunate that this piece of slime gets to walk around, but I would not give up my family to dispatch this scumbag.

They are more important to me than that. Bravado aside.

For some, love of their children or grandchildren would be more important than saving their sorry ass. Bravado aside.