Quit picking on the Shiny Pony
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Freeman Dyson would be unwelcome in today's #LPC under @JustinTrudeau - not that he knows who that is. #cdnpoli #denier
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Oh no. Screening out climate change deniers? What a shame.
Sounds like a stronger Liberal Party of Canada, to me.
Sounds like a stronger Liberal Party of Canada, to me.
like omfg...
On abortion, Justin Trudeau imposes ethical lobotomy on Liberals
The intellectual class have begun to notice - "the haughtiness of his father and the vanity of his mother..."
Oh, Shiny Pony! - Small Dead Animals
On abortion, Justin Trudeau imposes ethical lobotomy on Liberals
The intellectual class have begun to notice - "the haughtiness of his father and the vanity of his mother..."
Trudeau has mused aloud, unwisely, with precious little forethought, about all manner of stuff, from pot laws to his professed admiration for China's dictatorship. He is a political flibbertigibbet, his judgment a mile wide and a millimetre deep. Thus, Trudeau was stumped for an answer to the obvious followup question after stating that abortion opponents would be barred from seeking Liberal nominations -- whether he'd allow Liberal MPs already in the fold to vote freely or absent themselves should an abortion bill come before the House of Commons.
Har.
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Of course you would being that you, obviously, are unable to think for yourself and thus welcome JT to think for you.
Stephen Taylor @stephen_taylor Hillary Clinton on the Canadian middle class. What economic policy will Justin Trudeau run on now?
I think JT is more like Howdy-Doody.
'Bozo eruption': Liberal MP secretly recorded slamming Trudeau's abortion stance | CTV News
'Bozo eruption': Liberal MP secretly recorded slamming Trudeau's abortion stance | CTV News
" 17. This presented a problem for the defendants and LPC officials. They did not want anyone to know that contrary to Trudeau’s public pledge for open, transparent and fair nominations, they were actively planning to allocate and assign individuals to ridings, regardless of whom the local membership might actually support. "
Innes Statement Of Claim Â*|Â*Sotos LLP . It is a good read.
JT has filed his defense today. If I find a copy I will put up a link. CBC has most of the Canadian Press story. The G&M has a little, they cut out the parts that cast JT in a negative light, which was most of the article.
Justin's defence consists of the tales of 3 anonymous "young" workers.
One of the unknown yutes actually had to change his phone number, oh the humanity. Apparently the Innes Liberals bullied the only teenager in Canada that does not understand 'call display' or how to 'block' a caller.
This is why judges make the big bucks. Which Liberal is lying the least?
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Innes Statement Of Claim Â*|Â*Sotos LLP . It is a good read.
JT has filed his defense today. If I find a copy I will put up a link. CBC has most of the Canadian Press story. The G&M has a little, they cut out the parts that cast JT in a negative light, which was most of the article.
Justin's defence consists of the tales of 3 anonymous "young" workers.
One of the unknown yutes actually had to change his phone number, oh the humanity. Apparently the Innes Liberals bullied the only teenager in Canada that does not understand 'call display' or how to 'block' a caller.
This is why judges make the big bucks. Which Liberal is lying the least?
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Justin Trudeau, MPVerified account @JustinTrudeau Today’s announcement does nothing to ensure that Canada’s immigration policy brings people here with a pathway to citizenship.
yeah, ok then...
Jason KenneyVerified account @kenneyjason Nothing to give people a pathway to citizenship, @JustinTrudeau? You mean, except for the 260,000 permanent residents we admit every year.
Jason KenneyVerified account @kenneyjason BTW, that 260K is 17% higher than the 222K which was average level of permanent immigration under the previous Liberal govt, @JustinTrudeau
Jason KenneyVerified account @kenneyjason In 2005 the Liberal govt admitted 13,000 Temporary Foreign Workers as permanent residents, @JustinTrudeau. Last yr we gave PR to 44,000 TFWs
Today’s announcement does nothing to ensure that Canada’s immigration policy brings people here with a pathway to citizenship.
yeah, ok then...
Nothing to give people a pathway to citizenship, @JustinTrudeau? You mean, except for the 260,000 permanent residents we admit every year.
BTW, that 260K is 17% higher than the 222K which was average level of permanent immigration under the previous Liberal govt, @JustinTrudeau
In 2005 the Liberal govt admitted 13,000 Temporary Foreign Workers as permanent residents, @JustinTrudeau. Last yr we gave PR to 44,000 TFWs
oooops.
In slapping down Lawrence MacAulay, a Prince Edward Island MP and former solicitor general, the Liberal leader made clear that when he made his original remarks on abortion, he actually meant something entirely different.
For instance, when he said he respected the right of MPs to have differing views, he meant he respected it only to the extent they were willing to vote against those views. And when he said current pro-life MPs would be grandfathered “to a certain extent,” he meant “to no extent.”
Mr. MacAulay discovered this when he told his local newspaper, The Guardian, that despite Mr. Trudeau’s edict, he intended to continue voting as his conscience sees fit.
“The policy going forward is that every single Liberal MP will be expected to stand up for women’s rights to choose,”Trudeau said, no matter how they may feel about taking the lives of unborn children.
Mr. MacAulay is clearly a quick study, and signaled his willingness to subvert his own deeply-held beliefs to whatever the party leader ordered.
Politics is not absolutist, and the need for compromise is part of the game. But compromising about Wheat Board policy or the choice for the next lobbying commissioner is one thing, compromising on a personally held belief that involves the taking of life is something more serious. Mr. Trudeau is saying that the Liberal party under his direction views no conviction is so sacred that it can’t be thrown over because the party dictates it. Mr. MacAulay is shrugging his shoulders and saying, “Gee, if you say so.”
Canadians might want to remember this when the next election comes around. Those PEI voters who supported Mr. MacAulay in the belief he was sincere about his views now know otherwise. Pro-life voters who backed him in the past, have been made aware that to do so again means subordinating their own beliefs to Liberal party requirements. And unlike Mr. MacAulay, they won’t get a pension out of it.
Canadians at large can see just how empty is the new Liberal claim to be the defender of open, inclusive government. Mr. Trudeau, it appears, is open to MPs holding any and all controversial views, as long as they accord with his own, or are willing to vote as such. The joy Liberals get in depicting Prime Minister Stephen Harper as a manipulative bully yanking on the strings of backbenchers must be diluted somewhat by learning that their young leader is, if anything, even less inclined to tolerate dissent. Mr. Harper, despite his own abortion views, has made no effort to alter the laws, or to silence Conservative MPs who would like to see the file made more active.
Mr. Trudeau’s clarification means Canadians who feel some restrictions on abortion are justified – even if just to ban the practice of sex-selection procedures – are viewed with suspicion in the Liberal party. It means MPs are on notice that they are free to their opinions, as long as they’re willing to abandon them when required. It means that the Liberal claim to a greater respect for openness and honesty is just so much hot air.
It’s just as well Mr. Trudeau made all this clear. Now we know.
National Post
Kelly McParland: New open and inclusive Trudeau Liberal party welcomes all beliefs that match its own | National Post
For instance, when he said he respected the right of MPs to have differing views, he meant he respected it only to the extent they were willing to vote against those views. And when he said current pro-life MPs would be grandfathered “to a certain extent,” he meant “to no extent.”
Mr. MacAulay discovered this when he told his local newspaper, The Guardian, that despite Mr. Trudeau’s edict, he intended to continue voting as his conscience sees fit.
“He’s indicated that I can vote whatever way I choose. I’m, I guess, what you call grandfathered,” MacAulay said last week, adding that he is ‘pro-life all the way through.’
“I have done and voted the way that I wish to vote and will continue to do so.”
Soon afterwards, one of Mr. Trudeau’s aides disabused Mr. MacAulay of this belief. In saying MPs would be “grandfathered”, all he meant was that since sitting MPs had already been elected, there was little the party could do about denying them the right to run as Liberals. What he didn’t mean was that they could stick to their beliefs.“I have done and voted the way that I wish to vote and will continue to do so.”
“The policy going forward is that every single Liberal MP will be expected to stand up for women’s rights to choose,”Trudeau said, no matter how they may feel about taking the lives of unborn children.
Mr. MacAulay is clearly a quick study, and signaled his willingness to subvert his own deeply-held beliefs to whatever the party leader ordered.
“Despite my personal beliefs, I understand that I will have to vote the party position should this issue ever come up in the House of Commons,” he said in a subsequent statement, released via Twitter.
This says something about Mr. MacAulay, who evidently puts his party above his own beliefs, is willing to say so in public, and is willing to cast a vote against his own convictions even on an issue as fundamental as the ending of life.
Politics is not absolutist, and the need for compromise is part of the game. But compromising about Wheat Board policy or the choice for the next lobbying commissioner is one thing, compromising on a personally held belief that involves the taking of life is something more serious. Mr. Trudeau is saying that the Liberal party under his direction views no conviction is so sacred that it can’t be thrown over because the party dictates it. Mr. MacAulay is shrugging his shoulders and saying, “Gee, if you say so.”
Canadians might want to remember this when the next election comes around. Those PEI voters who supported Mr. MacAulay in the belief he was sincere about his views now know otherwise. Pro-life voters who backed him in the past, have been made aware that to do so again means subordinating their own beliefs to Liberal party requirements. And unlike Mr. MacAulay, they won’t get a pension out of it.
Canadians at large can see just how empty is the new Liberal claim to be the defender of open, inclusive government. Mr. Trudeau, it appears, is open to MPs holding any and all controversial views, as long as they accord with his own, or are willing to vote as such. The joy Liberals get in depicting Prime Minister Stephen Harper as a manipulative bully yanking on the strings of backbenchers must be diluted somewhat by learning that their young leader is, if anything, even less inclined to tolerate dissent. Mr. Harper, despite his own abortion views, has made no effort to alter the laws, or to silence Conservative MPs who would like to see the file made more active.
Mr. Trudeau’s clarification means Canadians who feel some restrictions on abortion are justified – even if just to ban the practice of sex-selection procedures – are viewed with suspicion in the Liberal party. It means MPs are on notice that they are free to their opinions, as long as they’re willing to abandon them when required. It means that the Liberal claim to a greater respect for openness and honesty is just so much hot air.
It’s just as well Mr. Trudeau made all this clear. Now we know.
National Post
Kelly McParland: New open and inclusive Trudeau Liberal party welcomes all beliefs that match its own | National Post