Quit Picking On Romney

[Tonington]

The video has been out for months

It was only dubbed in Arabic in early September, and then played on Egyptian televsion on September 8th.

Don't be so dumb; read the headlines and posters those other foolish people are holding up at rallies. Your partisan filled head can't even accept reality when it smacks you in the face...

Or maybe you're going to resort to some lame conspiracy about the media protecting Obama's policies. That seems likely.

Hundreds of angry Afghans protest anti-Islam film in eastern Afghanistan - The Washington Post
Latest developments on anti-Islam film protests
THE DAILY STAR :: News :: Middle East :: Iranians protest film outside Swiss Embassy: report
UPDATE 1-Iraqi militia threatens U.S. interests over film | Reuters
Anti-American-protests-over-film-enter-4th-day- New York Times
Anti-US protests spread to 20 countries throughout Muslim world - NYPOST.com
Violence erupts at protests of anti-Muslim film - Houston Chronicle
Protests across Pakistan against "blasphemous" film
Protests against anti-Islam film in Gaza, Tel Aviv - Hindustan Times
Palestinians-protest-against-anti-Islam-film-in-east-Jerusalem-and-Gaza- The Times of Israel
Protest at US embassy in Tunisia - The Irish Times - Wed, Sep 12, 2012

Yes, the film had nothing to do with these protests. They all spontaneously popped up because of some policy of Barak Obama's Administration.

You're off your rocker Walt.

 

[B00Mer]

Wonder of the Middle East Riots will help or hurt Romney. Many people are not happy with the way Obama is handling this crises.

 

[taxslave]

Couldn't the present White House reaction be construed as trying to defuse the situation, instead of escalating or exacerbating it?

Not if you are a rightwingnut.

I'm inclined to agree with walter. The embassy attacks were too well planned to be related to the movie. This is more like a terrorist celebration of 9/11 The movie was just an exercise to excite the ignorant masses.

 

[Tonington]

Not if you are a rightwingnut.

I'm inclined to agree with walter. The embassy attacks were too well planned to be related to the movie. This is more like a terrorist celebration of 9/11 The movie was just an exercise to excite the ignorant masses.

Oh yeah, the consulate attack was surely planned. I'm not denying that. Walter is on record in a few threads though as saying the riots are not because of the film. That's bunkum. In fact it's a good idea by the fundies to stoke the hatred of the US so that there will be riots concurrent with their plan to attack the consulate. The crowd surely didn't hurt their chances of accomplishing their goal.

But, the riots have gone on for days now, against that film. They are holding up signs calling for the beheading of those who insult their religion and prophet. The two are not mutually exclusive, the planned attack and the film causing riots.

 

[DaSleeper]

Obama in 2007: The Day I'm Inaugurated Muslim Hostility Will Ease. 2012 US Embassy Protests - YouTube

 

[L Gilbert]

Oh yeah, the consulate attack was surely planned. I'm not denying that. Walter is on record in a few threads though as saying the riots are not because of the film. That's bunkum. In fact it's a good idea by the fundies to stoke the hatred of the US so that there will be riots concurrent with their plan to attack the consulate. The crowd surely didn't hurt their chances of accomplishing their goal.

But, the riots have gone on for days now, against that film. They are holding up signs calling for the beheading of those who insult their religion and prophet. The two are not mutually exclusive, the planned attack and the film causing riots.

Pretty much the same ol "annoy us and we'll annoy you". Annoy them about their "prophet" so what better way for them to annoy America than by doing some violence on Sept. 11?
Kind of stupid not to understand that.

 

[Just the Facts]

Oh yeah, the consulate attack was surely planned. I'm not denying that. Walter is on record in a few threads though as saying the riots are not because of the film. That's bunkum. In fact it's a good idea by the fundies to stoke the hatred of the US so that there will be riots concurrent with their plan to attack the consulate. The crowd surely didn't hurt their chances of accomplishing their goal.

But, the riots have gone on for days now, against that film. They are holding up signs calling for the beheading of those who insult their religion and prophet. The two are not mutually exclusive, the planned attack and the film causing riots.

They've been rioting and demonstrating with signs saying behead those who insult islam for years. It would be a much better argument to say the riots caused the film. The film has been out a few months, the riots have been out for years.

 

[Tonington]

They've been rioting and demonstrating with signs saying behead those who insult islam for years. It would be a much better argument to say the riots caused the film. The film has been out a few months, the riots have been out for years.

How long between the film being on Egyptian television and the riots? How long has the film been available in Arabic? These protests haven't been going on continuously for years. For years, an event takes place and the protests and riots are in response, with periods of time in-between where nothing like this is happening. How can you in good faith turn the causality backwards without acknowledging the fact that these riots and protests are not in fact a daily occurrence over the last decade?

 

[Walter]

These protests haven't been going on continuously for years. For years, an event takes place and the protests and riots are in response, with periods of time in-between where nothing like this is happening. How can you in good faith turn the causality backwards without acknowledging the fact that these riots and protests are not in fact a daily occurrence over the last decade?

You weren't around in '79. Things haven't let up since. Wars don't have battles every day.

 

[Just the Facts]

How long between the film being on Egyptian television and the riots? How long has the film been available in Arabic? These protests haven't been going on continuously for years. For years, an event takes place and the protests and riots are in response, with periods of time in-between where nothing like this is happening. How can you in good faith turn the causality backwards without acknowledging the fact that these riots and protests are not in fact a daily occurrence over the last decade?

So, the guy who produced the film just spun a wheel and randomly came up with Islam to spoof? How can you in good faith not see a connection between the riots, protests, demands, insults, etc. etc. that have been going on for decades, and the film maker's choice of topic? You believe it was just chance that the film wasn't about Krishna, or Christ, or Buddha?

 

[Tonington]

You weren't around in '79. Things haven't let up since. Wars don't have battles every day.

No I wasn't around then, but I've been around for most of what followed. Not surprised that you completely missed the point, nor that your analogy missed the mark by a mile. Is it your belief that battles don't have objectives? Commanders just randomly decide they need to fight over a bridge, hill, or city?

Where were the riots and protests taking place throughout the Muslim world on say September 1st, 2012? Cause and effect. For all your age you apparently haven't learned this one yet.

 

[Walter]

Mitt the Mormon who was honest and true took over the Salt Lake City Olympics from the Mormons that weren't.

Why are you bringing his faith into this discussion?

 

[Tonington]

So, the guy who produced the film just spun a wheel and randomly came up with Islam to spoof?

Strawman.

How can you in good faith not see a connection between the riots, protests, demands, insults, etc. etc. that have been going on for decades, and the film maker's choice of topic?

Non-sequitur. In fact my post you replied to recognizes this very fact implicitly.

You believe it was just chance that the film wasn't about Krishna, or Christ, or Buddha?

Begging the question and also a red herring. Wow, that may be a new CC record for the most logical fallacies in such a few assortment of words.

 

[gopher]

I don't think much of Romney, but at least he didn't get the US ambassador to Libya killed.

Yeah but he applauded when Americans were killed in Vietnam while refusing to fight in the war he endorsed.

Wonder of the Middle East Riots will help or hurt Romney. Many people are not happy with the way Obama is handling this crises.

Romney has been criticized by members of BOTH parties for his criticism of President Obama:


Romney's criticism over attacks draws bipartisan scolding | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

 

[Kreskin]

Romney can't attend a foreign-hosted Olympics without creating tension.

 

[gopher]

Not a smart move by Romney.

 

[tay]

The Ultimate Mitt Romney Flip-Flop Collection - YouTube

 

[Mowich]

The Ultimate Mitt Romney Flip-Flop Collection - YouTube

Mitt Romney.........the candidate who stands by what he believes in..........unless he decides to change his mind.

 

[TeddyBallgame]

Mitt Romney.........the candidate who stands by what he believes in..........unless he decides to change his mind.

- It is always hilarious how the lefties love to pounce on any change in any policy for any reason by Romney or anyone on the right as indicating nothing but an opportunistic lack of principle while they also love to applaud any change in policy by morning radio rapper and colossal political hoax Obama and others on the left as being indicative of their admirable flexibility and evolving awareness.

- For example, BO has abandoned so many policy promises from 2008 and after that it is too time consuming to list them all here but just to name a few I would cite legalizing gay marriage, keeping Gitmo open, continuing to try terrorists under military law in military courts, increasing taxes on the rich after proclaiming a couple of years ago that a weak economy was no place in which to increase anyone's taxes, reducing the deficit by 50% instead of more than doubling it, substituting long distance murder by drones for the mild discomfort of water boarding, etc., etc., etc.

- Mind you, in Obama's defence one can always say that he is the ultimate quintessential liberal and therefore a moral relativist who believes in nothing and therefore can easily change positions 180 degrees on a dime.

- Still, it is hilarious to observe the silliest lefties lampooning Romney for changing policies in view of Obama's record in this regard.

 

[JLM]

What's most important is how much he gets "picked on" on the first Tuesday in November. I predict you won't hear too much about him after that! :lol: