Quit picking on Obama……

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And I already explained to you why a Republican would have been crucified. When somebody makes a statement like that, people, particularly blacks look at the totality of his life. What has he done to help blacks in the past? If he has done plenty in the past, then his statement forms only a small part of the narrative. Provided he apologizes, he is forgiven.

The problem is, when a Republican makes such a statement, there is usually nothing in his background to show that he has done anything to help blacks. He may even have supported legislation which may have harmed blacks. In that case, the stupid, racist statement is not part of the narrative, it is the whole narrative. That is why a Republican does not have a cover when he makes a similar statement.

Thus when Senator Lott made a similar statement, that summarized his attitudes towards blacks, since he had done precious little in his life to help blacks, to try to better their lot. However, when Reid made such a statement he could point to a series of accomplishments in the past, where he has done plenty to help blacks.

That is why Lott was crucified, while Reid will survive.
So what exactly has Reid done to help African Americans that will grant him immunity from racist remarks?
 

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So what exactly has Reid done to help African Americans that will grant him immunity from racist remarks?


I am not all that familiar with Reid pgs, so I couldn’t tell you. But I do remember reading that he was instrumental in integrating the casino Strip.

In the old days, Vegas was strictly segregated. I remember reading a few years ago, some black actress stayed at a hotel in Vegas. She used the swimming pool. Apparently the swimming pool was off limits to the blacks. But of course you don’t want to offend, alienate a big name actress, even if she may be black.

So they didn’t say anything to her about it. However, as soon as she was done using the pool, they drained the pool, cleaned it and refilled it. It made a big stink when it was revealed publicly.

So if Reid has indeed been instrumental in integrating the Strip (as I said, I don’t know much about him), that is no small achievement.

Anyway, according to Democrats and blacks, he has done plenty to improve the position of blacks in USA. I take their word for it.
 

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I am not all that familiar with Reid pgs, so I couldn’t tell you. But I do remember reading that he was instrumental in integrating the casino Strip.

In the old days, Vegas was strictly segregated. I remember reading a few years ago, some black actress stayed at a hotel in Vegas. She used the swimming pool. Apparently the swimming pool was off limits to the blacks. But of course you don’t want to offend, alienate a big name actress, even if she may be black.

So they didn’t say anything to her about it. However, as soon as she was done using the pool, they drained the pool, cleaned it and refilled it. It made a big stink when it was revealed publicly.

So if Reid has indeed been instrumental in integrating the Strip (as I said, I don’t know much about him), that is no small achievement.

Anyway, according to Democrats and blacks, he has done plenty to improve the position of blacks in USA. I take their word for it.
So are African Americans better off directly as a result off Reid?
Is their economic status greater because of him?
Do they have better education opportunities?
I really am curious because I don't know the answer to any of my queries.
 

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So are African Americans better off directly as a result off Reid?
Is their economic status greater because of him?
Do they have better education opportunities?
I really am curious because I don't know the answer to any of my queries.

Hey pgs, SirJP just offered irrefutable, documented, & detailed proof that Reid has done a lot to improve the life of blacks in the US...here it is, a direct quote from his post:

"Anyway, according to Democrats and blacks, he has done plenty to improve the position of blacks in USA. I take their word for it."

Sounds like the last word in 'evidence' to me! :lol:
 

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Harry Reid is common among liberal Democrats. He does not feel his racist remarks are a big deal.

The other liberal Democrat that is getting away with it is Bill Clinton. He was quoted in the same book stating...

"A few years ago he (Obama) would be serving coffee to us."

...while trying to garner support for his wife over Obama during the Democrat Presidential Campaign.
 

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Nice to follow the crowd blindly, nothing else needs to be said.

Ironsides, Reid’s remark was presumably demeaning to the blacks; blacks should be the aggrieved party. If blacks themselves say that Reid has done a lot to improve the lot of blacks in the past, that they forgive him and are ready to move on, that is good enough for me.

Indeed, the only people who seem to be in a snit about Reid’s remark are the Republicans. As far as blacks and Democrats are concerned, Reid made an unfortunate comment, apologized, is forgiven and they are ready to move on.

So anyway, as long as blacks a satisfied, that is good enough for me.
 

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Without context, that comment is simply a factual statement, with no racial bias at all.

With all due respect...

Are you saying that it is a factual statement that Obama would have been serving coffee to Bill Clinton and Harry Reid? And that diminishing the (at the time of the statement) Illinois Senator to a butler is not racial bias?

The context was that Bill Clinton was trying to get Harry Reid to support Hillary over Obama.
 

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With all due respect...

Are you saying that it is a factual statement that Obama would have been serving coffee to Bill Clinton and Harry Reid? And that diminishing the (at the time of the statement) Illinois Senator to a butler is not racial bias?

The context was that Bill Clinton was trying to get Harry Reid to support Hillary over Obama.

With all due respect, it would be hard to argue that, not too many years ago (say, 40 or 50), the role of a black man in a political function would be serving coffee to the candidates.

To understand the full meaning of the conversation, one would have had to be there, not reading about it third or fourth hand. I don't know what he meant, but I can certainly conceive of various different meanings, depending on the rest of the conversation.

Not everybody in the world is insulting and demeaning.
 

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With all due respect, it would be hard to argue that, not too many years ago (say, 40 or 50), the role of a black man in a political function would be serving coffee to the candidates.

To understand the full meaning of the conversation, one would have had to be there, not reading about it third or fourth hand. I don't know what he meant, but I can certainly conceive of various different meanings, depending on the rest of the conversation.

Not everybody in the world is insulting and demeaning.

Which is exactly why this does smack of racism.

Why would someone even say this? It is in fact demeaning and Clinton was mocking the future President.
 

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Well, them and the late night talk show liberal media types.

I can see why late night talk show hosts will be interested. This is ideal fodder for the jokes. late night hosts will pick any subject that is susceptible to easy humour, I don't hold that against them.

Republicans on the other hand, hope to get some political capital out of it (a forlorn hope).
 

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With all due respect...

Are you saying that it is a factual statement that Obama would have been serving coffee to Bill Clinton and Harry Reid? And that diminishing the (at the time of the statement) Illinois Senator to a butler is not racial bias?

The context was that Bill Clinton was trying to get Harry Reid to support Hillary over Obama.

Again, if you think the statement was demeaning to blacks, tell it to the blacks and see if they agree with you.
 

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"Tell it to THE blacks" is what makes you sound like a bigot. Spout off like that in the hood and see how long you survive. The blacks.... That just smacks of something you consider as beneath you.

I'm just wondering if all blacks think alike. I know all whites certainly don't. I think they're all just people, no? :-|
 

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