Quit picking on Obama……

TenPenny

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Which is exactly why this does smack of racism.

Why would someone even say this? It is in fact demeaning and Clinton was mocking the future President.

He could have been saying, 'look how far we've come, not that many years ago, he'd be serving us coffee'. It's not necessarily demeaning at all.

Since apparently you were there and were part of the conversation, perhaps you can fill us in on the nuances and body language, as well as the tone of the conversation.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Which is exactly why this does smack of racism.

Why would someone even say this? It is in fact demeaning and Clinton was mocking the future President.

Now really, isn’t it for the blacks to decide if a particular statement smacks of racism against blacks? Or have they delegated the responsibility to you?

If blacks apparently seem to be OK with that, why the squawk, why the crocodile tears by someone like you?

It is really up to blacks to decide if a statement is racist towards them, not up to you. If they are OK with Clinton, if they don’t have a problem with it, it is really not any of your business (or mine for that matter).
 

EagleSmack

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He could have been saying, 'look how far we've come, not that many years ago, he'd be serving us coffee'. It's not necessarily demeaning at all.

Since apparently you were there and were part of the conversation, perhaps you can fill us in on the nuances and body language, as well as the tone of the conversation.

But he wasn't saying that. He was trying to get Reid to support his wife and Reid wouldn't.
 

EagleSmack

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I don't know, because I wasn't there, and didn't hear the conversation.

As I said, since you apparently were, I'll defer to your first hand account of the whole thing.

Come on Ten.

Do we always have to be present to be able to comment. We would not be able to comment on anything if we HAD to be there first.
 

TenPenny

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Come on Ten.

Do we always have to be present to be able to comment. We would not be able to comment on anything if we HAD to be there first.
No, but you are insisting that your interpretation of the conversation is the absolute and correct one, so you must have been there. You refuse to acknowledge that one sentence could have been part of a bigger conversation, so I'm figuring you must have been there, in order to be so certain.
 

EagleSmack

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No, but you are insisting that your interpretation of the conversation is the absolute and correct one, so you must have been there. You refuse to acknowledge that one sentence could have been part of a bigger conversation, so I'm figuring you must have been there, in order to be so certain.

I have to correct myself...

The comment was made to Ted Kennedy as Bill Clinton tried to get Teddy to support his wife and said...

"A few years ago this guy would have been getting coffee for us."

Ted Kennedy was so offended that he threw all his support behind Obama.
 

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Ironsides, Reid’s remark was presumably demeaning to the blacks; blacks should be the aggrieved party. If blacks themselves say that Reid has done a lot to improve the lot of blacks in the past, that they forgive him and are ready to move on, that is good enough for me.

Indeed, the only people who seem to be in a snit about Reid’s remark are the Republicans. As far as blacks and Democrats are concerned, Reid made an unfortunate comment, apologized, is forgiven and they are ready to move on.

So anyway, as long as blacks a satisfied, that is good enough for me.


Congressional Candidate Lieutenant Colonel Allen West

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If someone must be followed, it will be Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. Why you may say, it is because he is not President Obama, not Harry Reid or Bill Nelson.
 

YukonJack

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"Ted Kennedy was so offended that he threw all his support behind Obama."

The gratefully departed, swimming instructor, beached whale should have based his presidential support on more than a careless, but entirely revealing comment by the "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT". He did not, and now, the country suffers.

But, luckily, only for three more years.
 

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"Ted Kennedy was so offended that he threw all his support behind Obama."

The gratefully departed, swimming instructor, beached whale should have based his presidential support on more than a careless, but entirely revealing comment by the "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT". He did not, and now, the country suffers.

But, luckily, only for three more years.

Seems, just like his predecessor he will be a failure. Why can't a country that big find better leaders?
 

gopher

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Colonel West?

He's the guy who said people should take up muskets against tyrannical government like our Founding Fathers. But he was not specific against whom and has not set an example as to how to proceed.
 

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ironsides

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Now there is no definition of what racism is unless that particular group thinks it is so. How about the hijacking of perfectly innocent words that become racist or cannot be used in the format they were originally intended.


There are lots of words out there that have become redirected to have totally different meanings because various groups became offended with one or another term.
 

ironsides

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In the U.S. bailing out the financial institutions, contributing to massive unemployment and ramming a huge healthcare package down our throats without even asking if this is what we really want it or not (of course if you ask someone without one they will support you), Big mistake made was not asking the average person who are just now waking up from there complacent lives. The United States is undergoing a attempted government take over which must be stopped. President Obama, you do not have to make citizens wards of the state in order to create a better country.
 

ironsides

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Today my brilliant President (Obama) decided to bring down the stock market by saying he was going to push for more banking tax's. With that remark the market dropped 200 point (as of 3:00PM) I don't know about you, but I smell dirty politics going on here. Obama just created another crisis because a Republican dared challenge him. If anyone say it, notice Biden standing next to him chuckling.