Quit picking on Obama……

AnnaG

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lmao The Big O should definitely be drawn and quartered for showing courtesy to the Japanese guy. That's immensely worse than flubbing a speech or something. Flubbing a speech should only be punished by life in prison.
How petty can criticism get? Walter has a perfect example right here. One might as well denigrate him because he has big ears.
 

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Obama’s swelling ego

By Jeff Jacoby
Globe Columnist / November 14, 2009

PRESIDENT OBAMA was too busy to attend the celebrations in Germany this week marking the fall of the Berlin Wall 20 years ago. But he did appear by video, delivering a few brief and bloodless remarks about how the wall was “a painful barrier between family and friends’’ that symbolized “a system that denied people the freedoms that should be the right of every human being.’’ He referred to “tyranny,’’ but never identified the tyrants - he never uttered the words “Soviet Union’’ or “communism,’’ for example. He said nothing about the men and women who died trying to cross the wall. Nor did he mention Harry Truman or Ronald Reagan - or even Mikhail Gorbachev.

He did, however, talk about Barack Obama.

“Few would have foreseen,’’ declared the president, “that a united Germany would be led by a woman from [the former East German state of] Brandenburg or that their American ally would be led by a man of African descent. But human destiny is what human beings make of it.’’

As presidential rhetoric goes, this was hardly a match for “Ich bin ein Berliner,’’ still less another “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.’’ But as a specimen of presidential narcissism, it is hard to beat. Obama couldn’t be troubled to visit Berlin to commemorate a momentous milestone in the history of human liberty. But he was glad to explain to those who were there why reflections on that milestone should inspire appreciation for the self-made “destiny’’ of his own rise to power.

Was there ever a president as deeply enamored of himself as Barack Obama?
 

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Obama's has not been a very good president. He isn't decisive and doesn't have a killer instinct just like most Dem's. If they ever realized they have a majority they could ram anything through just like the neo-cons did. The Republicans got away with pissing on the constitution and people lined up to thank them and the Dem's can't get a modern health bill passed because they are to busy pissing their pants about whether or not they will get elected to next time around.

Dumbocarts and Obama is the leader of them.

The U.S. is a joke.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Obama's has not been a very good president. He isn't decisive and doesn't have a killer instinct just like most Dem's. If they ever realized they have a majority they could ram anything through just like the neo-cons did. The Republicans got away with pissing on the constitution and people lined up to thank them and the Dem's can't get a modern health bill passed because they are to busy pissing their pants about whether or not they will get elected to next time around.

Dumbocarts and Obama is the leader of them.

The U.S. is a joke.
That has been the bane of Democrats since time immemorial Avro. Democrats are just too divided. In contrast, Republicans are very united.

If it had been the reverse situation (Republicans controlling presidency, House and having a filibuster proof majority in the senate), they would have converted USA into a Fundamentalist Christian Republic in a short order, their agenda would have sailed through like grease lightening. In the Republican Party, moderates usually roll over and give way to conservatives.

As to health care, if Democrats fail to pass the health care bill, they probably will lose control of Senate and House and it will be well deserved. After all, why should people give them the majority if they cannot govern?
 

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''Obama's has not been a very good president. He isn't decisive and doesn't have a killer instinct just like most Dem's. If they ever realized they have a majority they could ram anything through just like the neo-cons did.''


This is partly true. You must remember that it is Speaker of the House that exercises much legislative initiative. And Nancy Pelosi has failed to get the Congressional Dems in line to support Obama's agenda. Therefore, while you are correct that there has been a failure of leadership in so far as getting legislation enacted. But much of that blame goes on Pelosi and the DNC's leader Tim Kaine. In fact Kaine of Virginia is so ineffective that he couldn't even get that state's voters to vote for Democrat Deeds as their new governor!
 

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That has been the bane of Democrats since time immemorial Avro. Democrats are just too divided. In contrast, Republicans are very united.

If it had been the reverse situation (Republicans controlling presidency, House and having a filibuster proof majority in the senate), they would have converted USA into a Fundamentalist Christian Republic in a short order, their agenda would have sailed through like grease lightening. In the Republican Party, moderates usually roll over and give way to conservatives.

As to health care, if Democrats fail to pass the health care bill, they probably will lose control of Senate and House and it will be well deserved. After all, why should people give them the majority if they cannot govern?


Even today, Obama is not a good politician, he is being manipulated and run by some of the best though, and as you mentioned indirectly his support is floundering. Obama's first political defeats will come in 2010 and he will never win in 2012, because of his social and economic policies. People with a great health care system and no jobs will dump him. He is breaking the country with all his so called free this, free that. Somebody has to be able to pay the taxman.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Ironsides, if Democrats pass health care reform, they will do well in 2010 and 2012. They will limit their losses in 2010, and assuming economy is performing adequately, Obama probably will win in 2012. Besides, Republicans have to worry about the blood bath, the civil war in their own party (I am posting a thread on it later today).

But if they cannot pass the health care reform, all bets are off.