Public Inquiries into Emergencies Act begin September 19

Taxslave2

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Tipis don't honk.

More important, tipis don't take up parking spots.

We had the Boston Tea Party. Y'all had the Ottawa Parking Party.

I like it. Variation on a theme. And sure enough, True Dope called out the redcoats.
And, we had a bouncy castle that terrified turdOWE. Also a few hot tubs.
 

petros

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Being a Ford is the real issue.
Or it was sabotaged by the crackheads across the street. I'd love a copy of the interview "Ricky" gave to chek 6. He was going off about how we "guys from SK and AB were bad for business". I wish I had his arrest on video. I almost passed out from laughing.
 
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petros

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Or it was sabotaged by the crackheads across the street. I'd love a copy of the interview "Ricky" gave to chek 6. He was going off about how we "guys from SK and AB were bad for business". I wish I had his arrest on video. I almost passed out from laughing.
 

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And, we had a bouncy castle that terrified turdOWE. Also a few hot tubs.
Hey hey hey - don't downplay the hot tubs. Those were TACTICAL hot tubs. And had anyone checked the pH levels? YOU don't know! Those could have been a real threat!
 

Ron in Regina

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OTTAWA — Leaders of the so-called “Freedom Convoy” raised a stunning $24 million last winter through campaigns that tapped into support via crowdfunding platforms, e-transfers and cryptocurrency, with millions of dollars flowing in and out of personal bank accounts, a federal inquiry heard Thursday.

Commission lawyer Daniel Sheppard presented the first glimpse into the complex web of fundraising by convoy organizers, giving details about the amounts raised, the private bank accounts used, and the national and international sources of donations.

Sheppard said the main fundraising campaigns used U.S.-based online platforms GoFundMe and then GiveSendGo, e-transfers directly to lead organizer Tamara Lich, and three cryptocurrency campaigns led by Adopt-A-Trucker (set up by Chris Garrah), Freedom Convoy Token, and the most active and “significant” — Honk Honk Hodl.

A fraction of the money raised was used to feed, fuel and house truckers. Most of the donations have been refunded, according to the commission’s overview, except for $5.35 million that has been set aside in an escrow account pending the outcome of ongoing litigation. The rest at the below link:
 
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The_Foxer

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A fraction of the money raised was used to feed, fuel and house truckers. Most of the donations have been refunded, according to the commission’s overview, except for $5.35 million that has been set aside in an escrow account pending the outcome of ongoing litigation. The rest at the below link:

Right, that makes sense, just like the BLM org had to refund money and put some up in escrow after the property damage that happened during their 'protests'. So it's pretty much the same.

Hey. Wait a minute....
 
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OTTAWA — Leaders of the so-called “Freedom Convoy” raised a stunning $24 million last winter through campaigns that tapped into support via crowdfunding platforms, e-transfers and cryptocurrency, with millions of dollars flowing in and out of personal bank accounts, a federal inquiry heard Thursday.

Commission lawyer Daniel Sheppard presented the first glimpse into the complex web of fundraising by convoy organizers, giving details about the amounts raised, the private bank accounts used, and the national and international sources of donations.

Sheppard said the main fundraising campaigns used U.S.-based online platforms GoFundMe and then GiveSendGo, e-transfers directly to lead organizer Tamara Lich, and three cryptocurrency campaigns led by Adopt-A-Trucker (set up by Chris Garrah), Freedom Convoy Token, and the most active and “significant” — Honk Honk Hodl.

A fraction of the money raised was used to feed, fuel and house truckers. Most of the donations have been refunded, according to the commission’s overview, except for $5.35 million that has been set aside in an escrow account pending the outcome of ongoing litigation. The rest at the below link:
Yep cuz a lot of Canadians supported them by sending them $$.
 

Serryah

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One of the things I've heard is that it's not as simple as it sounds and the judge in charge of all this likely won't have any easy words to say in the end. It's not as clean cut as "should it have been enacted".

What gets me now though is hearing about leaks from the various policing forces to the Convoy people. If true it's no wonder response was a clusterfuk of stupidity. If not, then where did the so called leaking come from?
 

petros

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Why wouldn't mandated cops hold a grudge and not support others who were mandated?

This all started with healthcare workers months prior in August and September.

A week or two later the "It's just a conspiracy theory" vax passports hit and the wedge driven to the bone dividing workers, the public and authority.

Mrs and I were at this one. The city ran an empty ambulance through the crowd to create fake news.

 

Ron in Regina

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Trudeau, and many of his ministers – Quebec ministers no less – are busy condemning and campaigning against Ontario’s use of the notwithstanding clause.

Whatever you think of Doug Ford, let that sink in. Quebec politicians complaining about the use of the notwithstanding clause by a provincial government.

At one point, Trudeau said all options are on the table to deal with this problem, meaning he’d consider using the federal power of disallowance – effectively cancelling Ontario’s law.

(That’s a power that hasn’t been used since 1943, meaning it’s never been used in all the times Quebec has used the notwithstanding clause.)


The Liberals claim invoking the Emergencies Act didn’t suspend Charter rights, but it most certainly did. In fact, it was the point. The invocation of the act restricted travel, the right to assembly, required people and businesses to provide services to government on demand – all of those are Charter violations but deemed lawful under the act.

The Liberals claim the Emergencies Act is Charter compliant and therefore no rights or freedoms were suspended. That’s simply not true, but also the notwithstanding clause is Charter compliant as well because it is in the Charter – it’s section 33 for crying out loud.

Anyway, A bunch more at the link above…

On Friday, Trudeau said he wants to “continue to be the government and the party that stands up for people’s fundamental rights and freedoms.”

His own track record on this front is spotty at best. That doesn’t make what Ford is doing right, it just makes Trudeau’s campaign against Ford wrong and hypocritical.
 

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Trudeau, and many of his ministers – Quebec ministers no less – are busy condemning and campaigning against Ontario’s use of the notwithstanding clause.

Whatever you think of Doug Ford, let that sink in. Quebec politicians complaining about the use of the notwithstanding clause by a provincial government.

At one point, Trudeau said all options are on the table to deal with this problem, meaning he’d consider using the federal power of disallowance – effectively cancelling Ontario’s law.

(That’s a power that hasn’t been used since 1943, meaning it’s never been used in all the times Quebec has used the notwithstanding clause.)


The Liberals claim invoking the Emergencies Act didn’t suspend Charter rights, but it most certainly did. In fact, it was the point. The invocation of the act restricted travel, the right to assembly, required people and businesses to provide services to government on demand – all of those are Charter violations but deemed lawful under the act.

The Liberals claim the Emergencies Act is Charter compliant and therefore no rights or freedoms were suspended. That’s simply not true, but also the notwithstanding clause is Charter compliant as well because it is in the Charter – it’s section 33 for crying out loud.

Anyway, A bunch more at the link above…

On Friday, Trudeau said he wants to “continue to be the government and the party that stands up for people’s fundamental rights and freedoms.”

His own track record on this front is spotty at best. That doesn’t make what Ford is doing right, it just makes Trudeau’s campaign against Ford wrong and hypocritical.
Pot, meet kettle
 

Ron in Regina

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The Rouleau Commission has now heard sworn testimony that the Freedom Convoy was not foreign funded and did not constitute a threat to democracy and that the Emergencies Act was not needed or asked for by any police force. That reflects very poorly on the prime minister. The act’s invocation was the worst peacetime assault on civil liberties since Pierre Trudeau’s use of the War Measures Act during the FLQ crisis 52 years ago — when a Quebec cabinet minister was assassinated and a British trade commissioner held hostage.

Yet restricting the rights of 38 million Canadians has not attracted the widespread outrage it merits because the blue-collar protesters it targeted are widely viewed with disdain, including by much of the mainstream media. This selective indifference is both distressing and dangerous. Suspending civil liberties because of a peaceful protest that went on too long sets a low bar that puts everyone’s freedom at risk.

Assume for a moment the Emergencies Act did not exist. Can anyone seriously argue the government would have been powerless to remove trucks illegally parked on the streets of Ottawa … forever? To ask the question is to answer it. The legal test clearly was not met.

We are learning a lot from the Commission hearings, which were mandated by the Emergencies Act to determine, among other things, whether its invocation met the legal threshold, including that the “national emergency … cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada.” In deciding this, the fact that existing legislation was not relied on is irrelevant. Otherwise, incompetence or deliberate inaction could be used to invoke the Act anytime a government found it convenient.

Other evidence shows how egregious the prime minister’s actions were. He instigated the Freedom Convoy by belatedly imposing a mandatory vaccine on truckers last January.

Rather than reaching out and listening, as he has done with other protest groups, he exacerbated the conflict by demonizing protesters as racist radicals and falsely accusing them of violent criminal activity.

His cabinet colleagues searched for extreme language used by truckers and falsely claimed the police had requested the Emergencies Act.

He ignored imminent resolution of the standoff right before invoking the act, tried to narrow the mandatory hearing’s mandate, appointed Justice Paul Rouleau, who had worked as a Liberal staffer and donated to the Liberal Party, presumably in hopes he would be friendly, asked the RCMP for retroactive approval and falsely claimed he requested the current hearings when in fact they were mandated by statute.

It is a damning litany of misinformation, missteps, cynical opportunism, snobbery, pique and evasion of responsibility.

His unjustified suspension of civil liberties has tainted the prime minister’s moral authority to govern. Perhaps the commission will open Canadians’ eyes to the inequity and risk of taking away fundamental rights from people regarded as disagreeable.
 

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The Rouleau Commission has now heard sworn testimony that the Freedom Convoy was not foreign funded and did not constitute a threat to democracy and that the Emergencies Act was not needed or asked for by any police force. That reflects very poorly on the prime minister. The act’s invocation was the worst peacetime assault on civil liberties since Pierre Trudeau’s use of the War Measures Act during the FLQ crisis 52 years ago — when a Quebec cabinet minister was assassinated and a British trade commissioner held hostage.

Yet restricting the rights of 38 million Canadians has not attracted the widespread outrage it merits because the blue-collar protesters it targeted are widely viewed with disdain, including by much of the mainstream media. This selective indifference is both distressing and dangerous. Suspending civil liberties because of a peaceful protest that went on too long sets a low bar that puts everyone’s freedom at risk.

Assume for a moment the Emergencies Act did not exist. Can anyone seriously argue the government would have been powerless to remove trucks illegally parked on the streets of Ottawa … forever? To ask the question is to answer it. The legal test clearly was not met.

We are learning a lot from the Commission hearings, which were mandated by the Emergencies Act to determine, among other things, whether its invocation met the legal threshold, including that the “national emergency … cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada.” In deciding this, the fact that existing legislation was not relied on is irrelevant. Otherwise, incompetence or deliberate inaction could be used to invoke the Act anytime a government found it convenient.

Other evidence shows how egregious the prime minister’s actions were. He instigated the Freedom Convoy by belatedly imposing a mandatory vaccine on truckers last January.

Rather than reaching out and listening, as he has done with other protest groups, he exacerbated the conflict by demonizing protesters as racist radicals and falsely accusing them of violent criminal activity.

His cabinet colleagues searched for extreme language used by truckers and falsely claimed the police had requested the Emergencies Act.

He ignored imminent resolution of the standoff right before invoking the act, tried to narrow the mandatory hearing’s mandate, appointed Justice Paul Rouleau, who had worked as a Liberal staffer and donated to the Liberal Party, presumably in hopes he would be friendly, asked the RCMP for retroactive approval and falsely claimed he requested the current hearings when in fact they were mandated by statute.

It is a damning litany of misinformation, missteps, cynical opportunism, snobbery, pique and evasion of responsibility.

His unjustified suspension of civil liberties has tainted the prime minister’s moral authority to govern. Perhaps the commission will open Canadians’ eyes to the inequity and risk of taking away fundamental rights from people regarded as disagreeable.
Sadly the majority of Canadians have moved past the convoy and are not paying attention .
 

Ron in Regina

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Sadly the majority of Canadians have moved past the convoy and are not paying attention .
Yeah, it’s sad as this is important. The convoy was just a protest among many others… but the reaction to it by the federal government is what is important.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told Ontario Premier Doug Ford that the provincial leader did not need additional legal tools to clear a blockade of Canada’s busiest commercial crossing to the United States – five days before Mr. Trudeau gave the government sweeping legal powers using the Emergencies Act.

Meeting minutes of the leaders’ Feb. 9 call were tabled with the Emergencies Act inquiry on Tuesday. During the call, Mr. Ford said he had asked Ontario’s Attorney-General to look for legal ways to give police more tools, “because the police are a little shy and I can’t direct them.” Mr. Trudeau replied that the Premier “shouldn’t need more tools – legal tools – they are barricading the ON economy and doing millions of damage a day and harming people’s lives.”

At a press conference on Tuesday, Mr. Trudeau was asked why his position on the need for additional legal tools changed between Feb. 9 and Feb. 14. Mr. Trudeau did not directly answer the question.

Really? Didn’t directly answer a question? Trudeau? How about that…?

He said that the Emergencies Act commission is important for transparency and openness, adding, “that’s why we called the commission.” It is mandatoryunder Canadian lawto hold a commission after any invocation of the act and was therefore not a decision of Mr. Trudeau’s government. The rest at the above link.